Thread: Row grows after US Marshals strip-search Indian diplomat

Originally Posted by reddog

gotta laugh with the indians getting their nickers in a twist over this,
if you do the crime, do the time,good on the yanks for sticking it to the indians.
india is a utterly corrupt shit hole so playing the (we are being picked on)card
is laughable, hope the yanks slow down entry visas for them.

To "The Hypocritical States of America" !

if you do the crime, do the time,good on the yanks...

How many american polticians, businessmen, corporations, millionaires etc.. will have to be locked up in the U.S. ?
How many slaves, mexcicans, blacks are underpaid in the U.S. ?
How many americans have lost their job to a foreign slave (for the educated fools it's called outsourcing) ?
The primary reason for corporate outsourcing was to “reduce operating costs". Is that not the same as our little Hindu girl did ?

More underpaid workers from the Third World are needed in America !

Is it because americans are just plain stupid and lazy ?

Corporations exploit bankster contrived economic depression in bid to change immigration laws.

Sound like an "utterly corrupt shit hole" to me.
Changing the law or finding a way to get out, does that ring a bell ? Is'nt that what are little Hindu girl did ?

According to the National Association of Manufacturers, there is a dire shortage of skilled production workers in the United States.

I guess I will have to agree with the National Association of Manufacturers. There is not only a shortage of skilled workers, also a shortage of brain in the U.S. Can't blame the NAM for pulling this one over. They are just trying to make a buck. And BoonMee and friends are cheering them on.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Once she's gone, she's gone. The cowardly State Department fags will sweep it quickly under the rug, probably repay the bondsman, and hope that they get their parking spaces and movie nights in Delhi back. Sickening.

Come-on Davis, she's not worth it ! Just because some moron prosecuter in New York is trying to raise his profile ?
Her husband is american and her kids are going to school in the U.S. I think she is being punished enough.

^She will have to face the criminal charges if she ever enters the US again. But, having been expelled and declared persona non grata, she will never again be able to enter the US legally. As far as her kids going to school in the US and her American husband, tough shit. Her husband was complicit in the illegal abuse of the maid, as well as the immigration fraud.

And now the totally spineless US State Department has allowed the Indians to expel a totally innocent of anything American diplomat from India in a tit-for-tat. The State Department makes me want to puke - fitting the coward Kerry runs it.

Oh dear... Where is blind justice for all???

Expelled US diplomat had helped in evacuation of nanny's family to US


THE SENIOR US diplomat expelled by India Friday allegedly played a central role in the case against IFS officer Devyani Khobragade in New York as well as the evacuation of her domestic help’s family to the US last month.
Regional security officer Wayne May, who has been asked to leave India, was the coordination officer of the India-US anti-terrorism assistance programme and a special agent of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the division of the US State Department that is also the complainant against Khobragade in the New York case.
New Delhi believes May and his wife, Alicia Muller May, who too is a diplomat and is posted at the US Embassy as a Community Liaison Officer, were central to the entire issue of evacuating domestic help Sangeeta Richard’s family and the action against Khobragade.
Wayne, who has put in over 27 years of service in the US government and managed the more than 420 security staff and investigative officers at the mission in New Delhi, was the main liaison to Indian police agencies for high profile visits from the US and was the coordinator from the American side to the anti-terrorism assistance programme.
The expulsion, sources said, was ordered as India had “reasons to believe the diplomat is closely involved in the processes relating to the case and the subsequent unilateral action by the US”.
As an officer of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, Wayne was also allegedly coordinating with his counterparts in New York who had filed the official complaint of trafficking against Khobragade.
Sources said India had initially thought of taking action against Alicia, a diplomat of the first secretary rank, as she had allegedly used her privileges to buy tax-exempted air tickets for the husband and children of Richard who left on trafficking visas.
This, sources said, was illegal as only diplomats and their families are eligible for the tax exemption.
However, New Delhi subsequently decided that “reciprocal action” should be taken against a diplomat of the same rank as Khobragade, resulting in the notice to the US to withdraw Wayne, who is a consular level officer.


MOre....

Devyani Khobragade no longer enjoys immunity, may face arrest warrant: US


The United States today said senior Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade, who returned to New Delhi, no longer enjoys immunity and she and Indian government were told that an arrest warrant might be issued against her. “Prior to her (Devyani Khobragade) departure, it was conveyed to her and to the government of India that she is not permitted to return to the United States except to submit to the jurisdiction of the court.

"Her name would be placed in visa and immigration lookout systems to prevent the routine issuance of any future visa and upon her departure a warrant may be issued for her arrest", the State Department spokesperson, Jen Psaki, told reporters.

Khobragade’s departure from the US, she said, does not change the charges against her.

On Thursday, she was indicted in a New York court on two counts of visa fraud and misrepresentation of facts. “The charges remain in place. There are processes that are standard processes in each of these cases, which we were abiding by throughout this process,” the State Department spokesperson insisted.

Earlier today in New York, Khobragade was indicted for visa fraud and making false statements by a grand jury which held that the charges against her will remain with main Manhattan prosecutor Preet Bharara saying "there will not need to be an arraignment on the indictment scheduled at this time.

We understand that the defendant was very recently accorded diplomatic immunity status.

"Therefore, the charges will remain pending until such time as she can be brought to Court to face the charges, either through a waiver of immunity or the defendant’s return to the United States in a non-immune status...."

Arrested on December 12, Khobragade was strip-searched and held with criminals, triggering a row between the two sides with India retaliating by downgrading privileges of certain category of US diplomats among other steps.


Devyani Khobragade no longer enjoys immunity, may face arrest warrant: US - India - DNA

Khobragade gave no sick leave, paid $1 to maid: US court papers

Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade accused of visa fraud and lying about underpaying her maid coached the nanny to mislead US officials, confiscated her passport and made her work 100-hour, seven-day weeks, according to a US grand jury indictment.
Devyani Khobragade, who was India's deputy consul-general in New York, was effectively expelled from the United States on Thursday as part of a deal in which she was granted diplomatic immunity from the charges.
US court indictment papers, published on the website of the US attorney's office of the Southern District of New York, painted a picture of a maid refused sick days and holidays while working for a salary of little over $1 an hour in New York, or about one-seventh the minimum wage.
Devyani Khobragade's arrest set off protests in India after disclosures that she was handcuffed and strip-searched. The dispute soured US-India ties, leading to sanctions against American diplomats in New Delhi and the postponement of visits to India by senior US officials.
Devyani Khobragade denies all charges and has been backed by the Indian government. Khobragade's lawyer Daniel Arshack said on Thursday she would leave with her head "held high."
"She knows she has done no wrong and she looks forward to assuring that the truth is known," he said in a statement.

The indictment underscored the wildly divergent stories from both sides. The diplomat's relatives and government officials say the allegations are exaggerated and are being used by the maid, Sangeeta Richard, to get compensation or US residency.
Many Indian commentators said Richard had a relatively comfortable life, with full board and lodging, free cable TV and medical care. They say it is misleading to calculate weekly working hours for live-in staff.

Uttam Khobragade, the diplomat's father, said Richard lived a luxurious life, that she went to the beauty parlour every alternate week, and purchased an iPhone.
"Does even Nancy Powell's maid servant have such luxuries?" he said to Reuters, referring to the US ambassador to India. "She was having a gala time there."



More dothead head bobbling......

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

And now the totally spineless US State Department has allowed the Indians to expel a totally innocent of anything American diplomat from India in a tit-for-tat. The State Department makes me want to puke - fitting the coward Kerry runs it.

Expelling "innocent" diplomats is an invention from the U.S. & U.S.S.R. = Cold War. When I think about what the spineless US State Department swallows from some of its so called allies .....now that makes me realy want to

NEW DELHI — A handout for new teachers at this city’s exclusive American Embassy School, an academic oasis for children of American diplomats and other expatriates, offers some unusual guidance to female teachers whose husbands will also be teaching at the school.

“The female spouse should not state that she will be working,” the handout states, instructing spouses to list their occupation on visa applications as “housewife,” adding that “no sexism is intended on our part.”

That advice, which top Indian officials say is illegal, has ensnared the American school, a cherished institution among foreigners living here, in a growing diplomatic spat between India and the United States that began last month with the arrest in New York of Devyani Khobragade, an Indian consular official, on charges of visa fraud and making false statements in connection with her employment of a domestic worker.

The arrest and her resulting strip-search shocked the Indian diplomatic corps and generated about as much outraged commentary in the Indian news media as the beheading last year of an Indian soldier on a disputed border with Pakistan.

Since the arrest, Indian diplomats have peppered American officials here with a blizzard of questions and demands in the hope of uncovering similar violations by American diplomats. The police removed security barriers in front of the American Embassy here and stopped many diplomats’ cars and cited them for minor traffic violations such as having tinted windows. Many of the moves and queries have been quietly shrugged off by United States officials.

But questions about the school have sent a deep shudder through the expatriate community here. The school, which is next to the United States Embassy on land owned by the American government, has a swimming pool, tennis courts and vast athletic fields. Its stone classroom buildings and generous libraries could grace an Ivy League campus. Its price tag — around $20,000 a year — rivals that of some of New York City’s top private schools. A small army of uniformed security men patrol its perimeter.

Paul Chmelik, the school’s top administrator, refused to comment on Tuesday about the visa issue with the Indian government. Expecting an article in The New York Times, Mr. Chmelik emailed parents on Wednesday warning that “there could be a goodly number of members of the media present around the perimeter of the school during the course of the school day today and Thursday and Friday.”

“So you know,” he continued, “the article will most likely focus on the degree to which the school has complied with various government regulations.”

Hours earlier, the State Department in Washington released a statement that the deputy secretary of state, William J. Burns, had hosted the Indian ambassador, S. Jaishankar, for a lunch meeting at which they discussed “the variety of issues raised by the Ministry of External Affairs via diplomatic note, including alleged issues with the American Embassy School.”

“Deputy Secretary Burns conveyed that we take their concerns very seriously and will continue to address them via appropriate diplomatic channels,” the statement said.

False rumors have swirled through the school in recent days of vast teacher dismissals, and Nancy J. Powell, the American ambassador to India, addressed a special meeting Tuesday afternoon of school faculty and staff members. About a third of the school’s nearly 1,500 students are from the United States, another 20 percent are from South Korea and the rest come from dozens of other countries. The students include many children of foreign diplomats, executives and journalists.

Syed Akbaruddin, a spokesman for the Ministry of External Affairs, said the visa instructions listed on the teachers’ handout were “clearly a violation of tax law.”

The handout notes that India has placed restrictions on the number of tax-free visas available to school employees. “So, if you are a teaching couple,” the handout says, “we usually have the male spouse apply for the ‘employment’ visa and the female spouse be noted as ‘housewife’ on the visa application.”

One reason the school is widely admired is that it has a veteran and respected staff of teachers recruited in part by generous pay packages, including tax benefits.

A senior Indian official estimated that the American Embassy School had at least 16 teachers working illegally, and that smaller American schools in Mumbai and Chennai probably had several more. Schools are not alone in this: Many tax laws in India are at best fitfully enforced and often widely ignored.

Last February, the country’s finance minister, P. Chidambaram, announced that just 42,800 people reported earning at least $162,000 a year. In a country of 1.2 billion, where about 25,000 luxury automobiles are sold every year, the actual number is almost certainly much higher.

Ms. Khobragade’s arrest has plucked at deep sensitivity over how India is portrayed, and the news media and the public have searched for examples of American diplomats’ misbehaving. This has led to headlines and a dedicated website in recent days listing some of the Facebook posts of Wayne and Alicia Muller May, the American diplomats who were expelled from India over the weekend in retaliation for the American insistence that Ms. Khobragade leave the country after she refused to settle the charges against her in exchange for a modest fine.

“One week in country and I already miss STEAK,” Mr. May, head of embassy security in New Delhi, stated in one post among many that caused outrage. Cows are venerated by Indian Hindus, and slaughtering cows is illegal in many places. In another, Ms. May, the embassy’s community liaison officer, responded to an article that claimed nonvegetarians were more prone to violence. “It’s the vegetarians that are doing the raping, not the meat eaters — this place is just so bizarre,” she wrote.

In a briefing Monday, a spokeswoman for the State Department, Marie Harf, said that these posts “absolutely do not reflect U.S. government policy, nor were they made on any official U.S. government social media account.”

Neither officials in Washington nor in New Delhi have publicly identified the Mays as the expelled diplomats, but their identity has been widely reported.

On Tuesday, Ms. Khobragade was welcomed by nearly 60 people at the Mumbai airport as she arrived home after a weekend in New Delhi. The crowd, fired up by the fierce patriotism her arrest has provoked in India, shouted “Down with America, down with Barack Obama” and other slogans.

When Ms. Khobragade finally appeared, she was swarmed by TV cameras and supporters.

“I am thankful to my city, Mumbai, for the love and support,” she said.

Ms. Khobragade’s husband and children are American citizens and remain in New York. She said she was not sure when she would see them again since American officials had promised to press charges against her if she returned.

Indian officials are negotiating with the United States on the status of at least 14 other maids of diplomats in the United States. Indian diplomats have proposed to the Finance Ministry that the government pay the maids’ salaries, which would make them immune to American wage-and-hour laws. But in an editorial on Tuesday, The Hindustan Times argued that the Finance Ministry should reject the request as “there is no argument in favor of the Indian taxpayer paying for household help for its officers.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/wo...-row.html?_r=0

Originally Posted by reddog

if you do the crime, do the time,good on the yanks for sticking it to the indians.

Is a cavity search of someone suspected of underpaying her staff appropriate ?

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Her husband was complicit in the illegal abuse

what abuse ?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by reddog

if you do the crime, do the time,good on the yanks for sticking it to the indians.

Is a cavity search of someone suspected of underpaying her staff appropriate ?

She was arrested and processed into holding.
Should there be different rules for different types of criminal?
Wouldn't that be a little difficult?

Originally Posted by Necron99

Should there be different rules for different types of criminal?

Are you saying that everyone in the US suspected of any sort of crime or irregularity should be arrested and subjected to a cavity search ?

But to answer your question directly, yes.

Originally Posted by Necron99

She was arrested and processed into holding.
Should there be different rules for different types of criminal?
Wouldn't that be a little difficult?

It's not a rule, it's a procedure.

But does that not already happen ?

Some are handcuffed.

Some are arrested.

Some are invited to visit the local station to 'assist police with their inquires'.

Some would warrant a Special Response Force to arrest them, others would not.

^ but why?
And how would you differentiate?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by reddog

if you do the crime, do the time,good on the yanks for sticking it to the indians.

Is a cavity search of someone suspected of underpaying her staff appropriate ?

She was never subjected to a cavity search; she was strip-searched and visually examined by a female warder. Lying bitch.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Her husband was complicit in the illegal abuse

what abuse ?

Ok, fraud.

US dismisses Indian diplomat charges

A US judge has thrown out charges against an Indian diplomat whose New York arrest and strip-search sparked a bitter diplomatic row with Delhi.
Devyani Khobragade was arrested on December 12 outside her children's New York school, accused of defrauding her Indian housekeeper's visa application.
An outraged India claimed full diplomatic immunity on her behalf after Khobragade said she was subjected to a cavity search while in custody.
Employed at the Indian consulate in New York, she acquired in January the full diplomatic immunity granted to diplomats at the Indian mission to the UN.
It was on grounds of immunity that she petitioned a US court on January 9 to drop the case.
US District Judge Shira Scheindlin dismissed the indictment Wednesday on grounds that Khobragade was granted full diplomatic immunity on January 8.
"Even if Khobragade had no immunity at the time of her arrest and has none now, her acquisition of immunity during the pendency of proceedings mandates dismissal," Scheindlin wrote.
"Khobragade's conditions of bail are terminated, and her bond is exonerated... It is ordered that any open arrest warrants based on this indictment must be vacated."
Khobragade in January returned to India in January, leaving behind her two daughters and husband, a US citizen.
Khobragade told an Indian newspaper of her anguish at being separated from her seven- and four-year-old girls and their father, an academic.
US prosecutors, disputing her immunity, accused Khobragade of sometimes forcing her Indian maid to work 100-hour weeks, even when sick and often without a day off, for pay as little as $US1.22 ($A1.36) an hour.
The diplomatic row between the two countries, which had embraced each other as strategic partners, strained ties and fanned resentment on both sides.

US dismisses Indian diplomat charges | News.com.au

Everyone's forgotten about this non-story but this will be slapped over every website and newspaper in India.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Everyone's forgotten about this non-story but this will be slapped over every website and newspaper in India.

They will probably have a parade and dedicate a shrine to the bitch.

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Everyone's forgotten about this non-story but this will be slapped over every website and newspaper in India.

They will probably have a parade and dedicate a shrine to the bitch.

There is definitely some scope for some trolling here.

"Serves her right, she's lower caste", "I'm a NY cop and I have pictures of her fanny for sale", etc.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Everyone's forgotten about this non-story but this will be slapped over every website and newspaper in India.

They will probably have a parade and dedicate a shrine to the bitch.

There is definitely some scope for some trolling here.

"Serves her right, she's lower caste", "I'm a NY cop and I have pictures of her fanny for sale", etc.

Got a site in mind?
Indians would go nuts over shit like that.

Originally Posted by Necron99

US dismisses Indian diplomat charges

A US judge has thrown out charges against an Indian diplomat whose New York arrest and strip-search sparked a bitter diplomatic row with Delhi.
Devyani Khobragade was arrested on December 12 outside her children's New York school, accused of defrauding her Indian housekeeper's visa application.
An outraged India claimed full diplomatic immunity on her behalf after Khobragade said she was subjected to a cavity search while in custody.
Employed at the Indian consulate in New York, she acquired in January the full diplomatic immunity granted to diplomats at the Indian mission to the UN.
It was on grounds of immunity that she petitioned a US court on January 9 to drop the case.
US District Judge Shira Scheindlin dismissed the indictment Wednesday on grounds that Khobragade was granted full diplomatic immunity on January 8.
"Even if Khobragade had no immunity at the time of her arrest and has none now, her acquisition of immunity during the pendency of proceedings mandates dismissal," Scheindlin wrote.
"Khobragade's conditions of bail are terminated, and her bond is exonerated... It is ordered that any open arrest warrants based on this indictment must be vacated."
Khobragade in January returned to India in January, leaving behind her two daughters and husband, a US citizen.
Khobragade told an Indian newspaper of her anguish at being separated from her seven- and four-year-old girls and their father, an academic.
US prosecutors, disputing her immunity, accused Khobragade of sometimes forcing her Indian maid to work 100-hour weeks, even when sick and often without a day off, for pay as little as $US1.22 ($A1.36) an hour.
The diplomatic row between the two countries, which had embraced each other as strategic partners, strained ties and fanned resentment on both sides.

US dismisses Indian diplomat charges | News.com.au

She's a dirtbag. I hope she stays in India; hopefully her American husband will leave for there, too. I'd bet she abused the maid's family in India. Hiso scumbags do that kind of thing. I really wish we would kick these criminals out but I know America is a friendly place to abusers and criminals of the world. It's just a fact. Money and connections are everything, even in America. The US needs new rules for visas. One would be that people like this who get visas to the US be under some sort of probation period where they are audited and big brother legally follows their life in America. A regular 90 day check-in like they do in Thailand would be good,too. Let them know they are being closely-monitored, and a violation means bye-bye.

^ No mate we do the trolling on other forums.