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    Teens kills 4 but too rich for prison

    This is beyond ridiculous. Thinking of where the case is, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised. There is no such thing as "Affluenza" medically.

    Sentence in Texas teen's fatal DWI wreck stirs ire
    By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI, Associated Press
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    In this June 16, 2013 photo, cars drive past the scene of a fatal wreck. A North Texas juvenile court judge has sentenced a 16-year-old boy to probation for the crash that killed four people on Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2013. Photo: Ben Noey Jr., AP / The Fort Worth Star-Telegram

    A North Texas juvenile court judge has sentenced a 16-year-old boy to probation for the crash that killed four people on Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2013. Photo: Ben Noey Jr., AP

    HOUSTON (AP) — "Affluenza," the affliction cited by a psychologist to argue that a North Texas teenager from a wealthy family should not be sent to prison for killing four pedestrians while driving drunk, is not a recognized diagnosis and should not be used to justify bad behavior, experts said Thursday.

    A judge's decision to give 16-year-old Ethan Couch 10 years of probation for the fatal accident sparked outrage from relatives of those killed and has led to questions about the defense strategy. A psychologist testified in Couch's trial in a Fort Worth juvenile court that as a result of "affluenza," the boy should not receive the maximum 20-year prison sentence prosecutors were seeking.

    The term "affluenza" was popularized in the late 1990s by Jessie O'Neill, the granddaughter of a past president of General Motors, when she wrote the book "The Golden Ghetto: The Psychology of Affluence." It's since been used to describe a condition in which children — generally from richer families — have a sense of entitlement, are irresponsible, make excuses for poor behavior, and sometimes dabble in drugs and alcohol, explained Dr. Gary Buffone, a Jacksonville, Fla., psychologist who does family wealth advising.

    But Buffone said in a telephone interview Thursday that the term wasn't meant to be used as a defense in a criminal trial or to justify such behavior.

    "The simple term would be spoiled brat," he said.

    "Essentially what he (the judge) has done is slapped this child on the wrist for what is obviously a very serious offense which he would be responsible for in any other situation," Buffone said. "The defense is laughable, the disposition is horrifying ... not only haven't the parents set any consequences, but it's being reinforced by the judge's actions."
    Entire: Sentence in Texas teen's fatal DWI wreck stirs ire - seattlepi.com

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    Nice to see the US follow Thailand's lead in the judicial process.

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    ^Beat me to it.

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    poor black kid=20 years x 4

    Surely the prosecution will appeal the conviction. Can they?

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    The judge should be imprisoned. Or shot dead.

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    The Star-Telegram reported that the judge said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the intensive therapy Couch needs. His parents had said they would pay for him to go to a $450,000-a-year rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif.
    The Star should have also reported that the judge plays golf with the defendant's dad, or they're in the same lodge or whatever.

    What a fucking joke.

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    That's the judges retirement fund sorted I bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The Star-Telegram reported that the judge said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the intensive therapy Couch needs. His parents had said they would pay for him to go to a $450,000-a-year rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif.
    The Star should have also reported that the judge plays golf with the defendant's dad, or they're in the same lodge or whatever.

    What a fucking joke.
    If this his true then wouldn't the judge be guilty of a obvious conflict of interest? It is just plain sick and another reason why we should all have a healthy attitude of scepticism when we look at all western justice systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble View Post
    poor black kid=20 years x 4

    Surely the prosecution will appeal the conviction. Can they?
    In the US, the prosecution cannot appeal sentences (nor jury verdicts).

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    crap then the kid has it made

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The Star-Telegram reported that the judge said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the intensive therapy Couch needs. His parents had said they would pay for him to go to a $450,000-a-year rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif.
    The Star should have also reported that the judge plays golf with the defendant's dad, or they're in the same lodge or whatever.

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    Is that a fact, or did you make it up ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The Star-Telegram reported that the judge said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the intensive therapy Couch needs. His parents had said they would pay for him to go to a $450,000-a-year rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif.
    The Star should have also reported that the judge plays golf with the defendant's dad, or they're in the same lodge or whatever.

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    Is that a fact, or did you make it up ?
    I think it's self explanatory to anyone but an idiot.

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    Per CNN:
    Simply put, Couch, 16, claims that his condition stemmed from having wealthy, privileged parents who never set limits for him. But Eric Boyles, who lost his wife and daughter in the crash, said on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360," "There are absolutely no consequences for what occurred that day. The primary message has to absolutely be that money and privilege can't buy justice in this country."


    The moral decline in America continues.


    IMO, it all started with T-Ball...
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
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    The Star-Telegram reported that the judge said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the intensive therapy Couch needs. His parents had said they would pay for him to go to a $450,000-a-year rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif.
    The Star should have also reported that the judge plays golf with the defendant's dad, or they're in the same lodge or whatever.

    .
    Is that a fact, or did you make it up ?
    I think it's self explanatory to anyone but an idiot.
    It was unclear what you meant .
    Could you confirm whether you made it up or its a fact .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Per CNN:
    Simply put, Couch, 16, claims that his condition stemmed from having wealthy, privileged parents who never set limits for him. But Eric Boyles, who lost his wife and daughter in the crash, said on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360," "There are absolutely no consequences for what occurred that day. The primary message has to absolutely be that money and privilege can't buy justice in this country."


    The moral decline in America continues.


    IMO, it all started with T-Ball...
    Do not try to distance yourself from this boontard. These are your people. You pontificate about how great texas is so face the monster that you and the sicko right created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
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    The Star-Telegram reported that the judge said the programs available in the Texas juvenile justice system may not provide the intensive therapy Couch needs. His parents had said they would pay for him to go to a $450,000-a-year rehabilitation center near Newport Beach, Calif.
    The Star should have also reported that the judge plays golf with the defendant's dad, or they're in the same lodge or whatever.

    .
    Is that a fact, or did you make it up ?
    I think it's self explanatory to anyone but an idiot.
    It was unclear what you meant .
    Could you confirm whether you made it up or its a fact .
    He made up the bit about golf and the masons but the whatever is fact.

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    I believe the judge was a she, though nowadays that changes little.

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    justice has a price tag,,, same as Thailand. corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
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    poor black kid=20 years x 4

    Surely the prosecution will appeal the conviction. Can they?
    In the US, the prosecution cannot appeal sentences (nor jury verdicts).
    Nope, it's called double jeopardy, once a sentence is imposed for a given crime and charge it's final where the prosecution is concerned.

    This is sickening on so many levels, it's an obvious connection and needs much further investigation, it's been all over the press here and rightfully so, it won't go away without some heads rolling. That's the difference between here and places like Thailand..

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    In the US, the prosecution cannot appeal sentences (nor jury verdicts).
    That actually depends. If the prosecution made any motions to block this "defense" they may have recourse. Pretty sure an appeals judge would give broad interpretation of any objections entered into record, unless they are related also.

    But, gee, look at the remorse clearly visible on the offender's face:


    You just know, he'll never do it again; don't You?

    Makes me wanna drive to Texas just to put my boot about 6 feet up his ass.
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    Smug, arrogant prick he looks doesn't he?.........

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    What's the point in having money if you can't get away with shit?

    This outcry is jealousy, plain and simple.

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    Yes alwarner, it corrupts the sense for equality, fairness, and justice. Behold the nature of capitalism. Nothing to do with that, but can they drive big cars and own guns in Texas before they may drink alcohol, have sex, and vote? What a crazy state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The judge should be imprisoned. Or shot dead.
    Or the Judge's family murdered by some drunk rich kid...

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    Som nam na...

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