Thread: Cannabis trumps drink

Hey, when ya do that survey (if ya do) come back and tell us where ya stand on the alcohol consumption stakes.

I came out thinking I was below average consumption, the score indicated middle average, but because I'm older the consumption rated high.

BUT,....I was still within the safe range for my age by a long shot.

Still, I'm working on reducing alcohol consumption down to a third less than I do now, and keeping my ganja consumption as is, but modifying my consumption method.

I'll use a vapourizer instead of spliffs or bongs, and eat or drink more of the God given herbal healer.

... a nice relaxing smoke.

Originally Posted by chassamui

Links between cannabis use and mental disorders.

Questions remain about the level of association between cannabis use and depression and anxiety and about the mechanism underpinning the link. Pre-existing symptoms might raise the likelihood of cannabis use through a mechanism of self medication.12 Alternatively, cannabis use may be more likely in people with a background of social adversity or particular characteristics—factors that might also raise risks for mental disorders.

Cannabis may also carry a direct risk for depression and anxiety.

That last statement I doubt entirely.

Only in as much as there is a pre-existing and conditional negative response to life challenges does a person start to exhibit psychosis due to ingesting cannabis in any way.

I think that cannabis has become the self-medication of choice for many who have been prescribed anti-psychotic medications.

They find it easier to use and far more enjoyable than conventional medications.

The only negative factor in its use for self medication by psychiatric patients is the fear of being prosecuted for using it.

That heightened anxiety level (so called paranoia, in the drug culture) is the main cause of any increased disturbance exhibited by patients so using the herb.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

... a nice relaxing smoke.

Tell ya what Thorm,

That combo was one of my favourites.

A damned fine cigar (a really good one) and a good whisky with a decent stout was my number.

(Apart from a spliff, of course )

From my personal experience , there are two types of people : Regular drug takes who have a warped sense of reality and often disply signs of paranoia and whom thay feel that everythings a conspiracy and the Government are there for the sole purpose of making his life a misery and the Government are out to get him and also there is an unknown entity out there controlling the World and their intentions are evil.....and when they talk, I just polity nod my head say "Yes Mate" whilst thinking to my self *You are not really making much sense*
These guys also seem to frequent prostitutes and have a far away look in their eyes .
And then theres the other people who dont do drugs , who are quite senisble

^ Wow.

Mine's a Rusty Nail, ENT, with a good Cuban cigar.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Its extremely boring to be in the company of people who smoke marijuana , they are so slow, dull, dreary and spaced out .
If I see someone rolling a joint, I leave before they light it up .
I dont want to be in the company of potheads

Sound.

You keep the smack heads and the piss heads and I'll keep the potheads.

I know who I'd rather be around.

Originally Posted by Fluke

From my personal experience , there are two types of people : Regular drug takes who have a warped sense of reality and often disply signs of paranoia and whom thay feel that everythings a conspiracy and the Government are there for the sole purpose of making his life a misery and the Government are out to get him and also there is an unknown entity out there controlling the World and their intentions are evil.....and when they talk, I just polity nod my head say "Yes Mate" whilst thinking to my self *You are not really making much sense*
These guys also seem to frequent prostitutes and have a far away look in their eyes .
And then theres the other people who dont do drugs , who are quite senisble

ha ha dude, you get your world view from Hollywood.

^^^ That's a lovely way to imbibe barley, Thorm!

My cigar of choice can only usually be bought in Tachilek, by us lot.

A couple of years ago they were 75 baht for 25.

Square black cigars, Burmese.

The best I've ever smoked, close to the old Rochesters, another square packed cigar.

Originally Posted by alwarner

Originally Posted by Fluke

Its extremely boring to be in the company of people who smoke marijuana , they are so slow, dull, dreary and spaced out .
If I see someone rolling a joint, I leave before they light it up .
I dont want to be in the company of potheads

Sound.

You keep the smack heads and the piss heads and I'll keep the potheads.

I know who I'd rather be around.

Yer onto it mate.

Smack heads are a bunch of opportunistic sharks, along with alkies, who're a bit slower and stupid, but can't think outside the square.

Smackheads make me just wanna leave the place....boring,....really boring ...

Mind you, if I was on my way terminally, OK, give me smack.

I'd rather have O, a great balm for aching bones and the old.

Not suitable for the young.

Originally Posted by alwarner

Originally Posted by Fluke

From my personal experience , there are two types of people : Regular drug takes who have a warped sense of reality and often disply signs of paranoia and whom thay feel that everythings a conspiracy and the Government are there for the sole purpose of making his life a misery and the Government are out to get him and also there is an unknown entity out there controlling the World and their intentions are evil.....and when they talk, I just polity nod my head say "Yes Mate" whilst thinking to my self *You are not really making much sense*
These guys also seem to frequent prostitutes and have a far away look in their eyes .
And then theres the other people who dont do drugs , who are quite senisble

ha ha dude, you get your world view from Hollywood.

Your analysis is irrational because you have no idea what my World view is based on .
I do not, because I dont watch movies at all .
I dont watch TV at all, come to think of it.
Are you a drug user ?

Are you a presbyterian or other sect missionary?

No .
,,,,

Going by your post, you seem to think that government and others in the world are there for your benefit, not to rip you off.

I have to tell you that you're being ripped off totally all the time by business and government, and that your attitude to the situation is really one of compliance, not of reasoned evaluation, because I don't think you have ever gone far outside of a rather limited state of experience for a long time.

Not trying to knock ya mate, just trying to say that your world view as expressed by you shows a tendency to naivete, to say the least,..somewhat cloistered.

Which is why I asked if you belonged to a set belief system such as fostered by missionaries.

so because you use Cannabis your a pot head.? as with all substances if used in moderation.

http://www.livescience.com/24554-medical-marijuana.html

Medical Marijuana: Benefits vs. Risks
Lauren Cox, LiveScience Contributor | November 05, 2012 04:26pm ET
Millions of people use marijuana — a combination of shredded leaves, stems and flower buds of the Cannabis plant; some recreationally and some for its supposed medical benefits. While the popular weed has been used for medicinal purposes for centuries, the debate on its effectiveness continues.

medical marijuanaOrganic Cannabis indica purchased from a Medical Cannabis dispensary in California.
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Some of the earliest discoveries of marijuana's properties date back to 2700 B.C. in China, where it was described in pharmacopoeias. The ancient Greeks and Egyptians used it for ailments, and word of the herb spread across Europe. In 1484, Pope Innocent VIII banned hashish, a concentrated resin produced from the flowers of the Cannabis plant. In the 20th century, the Rastafari religious movement incorporated smoking marijuana into the faith as a means of spiritual discovery.

Compounds in marijuana can relieve pain, combat nausea and stimulate appetite. But whether these health benefits outweigh the risks of legalized marijuana has fueled a debate and legislative conundrum across the United States. In more than 15 states, local police may consider an individual's marijuana use legal, while federal law prohibits it.

Unlike many abused drugs, an overdose of marijuana is not lethal, according to the National Cancer Institute. Although marijuana can be addictive for some, the potential for forming an addiction to marijuana is lower than some prescription drugs and other abused drugs.

However, marijuana has side effects. The primary psychoactive chemical in marijuana is THC, or tetrahydrocannabinol, one of more than 60 cannabinoids (chemicals unique to marijuana). THC binds to cannabinoid receptors, which are concentrated in areas of the brain associated with thinking, memory, pleasure, coordination and time perception.

The effects of marijuana can interfere with attention, judgment and balance. Marijuana also suppresses the immune system, which can be damaging to many people, but useful for others with certain health conditions. Although marijuana has been known to decrease pressure within the eyes, a symptom of the condition glaucoma, research has shown that other drugs may be more effective.

Studies have produced conflicting results on whether smoking marijuana carries a significant cancer risk.According to the American Cancer Society, worldwide research into the benefits and side effects of compounds in marijuana is ongoing. Some compounds in marijuana have already been developed into pharmaceuticals.

Canada, New Zealand and several countries in Europe have approved the nasal spray Sativex, which uses purified cannabinoids derived from marijuana for the treatment of cancer pain and muscle spasms in multiple sclerosis. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved two drugs made from synthetic cannabinoids, dronabinol and nabilone, which treat nausea and appetite problems in cancer and HIV patients. Yet the FDA has not approved marijuana in its plant form as a treatment.

During a 2004 congressional testimony, a doctor speaking on behalf of the FDA said marijuana as a “botanical product” is difficult to test for efficacy and safety because the proportions of active chemicals can range greatly from plant to plant. This, he said, can also cause problems for patients trying to use marijuana. But he added that the FDA “will be receptive to sound, scientifically based research into the medicinal uses of botanical marijuana and other cannabinoids.”

Still, more than a dozen states have voted to legalize Cannabis for medical purposes. California was the first state in the country to pass medical marijuana laws in 1996. Dozens of states have followed suit despite existing federal laws that classify marijuana as a Schedule I controlled substance. Most residents of states with medical marijuana laws need to follow a set of guidelines before using the drug; obtain a medical doctor's prescription, obey rules for the maximum weight a person can posses and sign up for a registry of medical marijuana users.

Originally Posted by ENT

Going by your post, you seem to think that government and others in the world are there for your benefit, not to rip you off.

I have to tell you that you're being ripped off totally all the time by business and government, and that your attitude to the situation is really one of compliance, not of reasoned evaluation, because I don't think you have ever gone far outside of a rather limited state of experience for a long time.

Not trying to knock ya mate, just trying to say that your world view as expressed by you shows a tendency to naivete, to say the least,..somewhat cloistered.

Which is why I asked if you belonged to a set belief system such as fostered by missionaries.

Businesses , both big and small are there to make a profit , if they dont make a profit, they go under .
They make a profit by providing a service and its down to each individual whether they choose to use one Business over another .
If a business provided a bad service , people will go elsewhere and the business giving a bad service will go bankrupt , so businesses attempt to give a good service and make a profit as well .
Providing a reasonable service at a reasonable price , so they are not trying to rip you off , its down to each person as to whether they choose to use a certain business .
If a person feels that they are getting ripped off, they will take their business elsewhere .
Governments , I cannot speak of all Governments because there are hundreds of them and each Country has a different Government .
Some Dictatorships do indeed rip its people off and keeping all the money for a small few , but the US and UK Governments run their Countries at a loss , which means the people profit more from the Country than the Government profits from the people

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Quick someone register the name Marlboro Highs

Pubs will still survive, we need somewhere to go and talk shit with our mates. (Oh but wait...)

These names at least 1000 were registered as early as the 70's by the ciggy manufacturers - even the marketing slogans were ready "Samson- tastes good in any joint"

The police of both the states of Washington and Colorado are close to being in shock. Since the law went into effect. No arrests for violence, none for robbery, none for rape, nothing for any crime linked to ganga.

In fact at the smoke in they had in Seattle the police were happy. They handed out free doritos if you had the munchies.

^^ Haha ha!! Wonderful!!

Oregon has it down. Go to your doctor and get prescribed ganga. Then you may legally grow 7 plants in your name creating your own medicine. Mr. Marley is smiling down on us.

A nice song expressing my sentiments on this subject.