Thread: Portugal Cops Reopen Madeleine McCann Case

^Well, they were doctors. Of course they are going to be prepared for any medical emergency.

Why would they give them adult drugs? Any paediatric drug would have been available to them. She is a GP. I would be surprised if they had gone on holidays with children and not taken drugs of some kind for fevers or pain with them.

It seems more and more like the police are clutching at straws.

^sorry Lily, not saying they gave the child the drugs: more the child took the drugs that were left lying around and by the time the parents found the child it was all too late. But I have to admit, the time-line doesn't fit nicely with that theory. After all, the father was talking to a tennis buddy 25 minutes before they discovered she was missing. If he knew by then what had happened, he'd have to be one cool/cruel b'stard

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

yet in this case, they have been nothing but supportive. i can't remember such an outpouring of grief for a family. the media has helped it continue

I think they were very supportive when the news was new, but now they are printing gossip about them.

Why do the people on here think that they were social butterflies into wife swapping, who routinely left their children at home to party?

Has to come from somewhere.

^actually, to be fair, the Sunday Times article I read was one of the most balanced pieces of jurno I've read in a long time.

I really do think that some people have to demonise people that tragedies like this happen to. It makes them feel safer if they can prove that the people did something wrong to allow it to happen.

If you dont do anything wrong or different your own children will be safe.

I can tell you though, that it doesn't happen that way.

This all reminds me of the Was He/Wasn't He conjecture surrounding the Bob Woolmer death.

I havent read anything too damning either but some people obviously have.

More:


Portuguese authorities have played down the significance of DNA evidence found in the boot of a car hired by the parents of missing British girl, Madeleine McCann.
Sky News UK, citing unidentified Portuguese police sources, today reported that the DNA evidence fully matched the missing four-year-old, indicating that her body had been in the car.
Police have named Madeleine's parents - Kate and Gerry McCann - as suspects. Both have denied any role in their daughter's disappearance from a hotel room in Portugal's Algarve region, on May 3.
Members of their families say police suggested the McCanns hid the body and later disposed of it in a hire car.
However, Portugal's national police chief Alipio Ribeiro tonight suggested that the forensic tests had not been conclusive.
"We can't say with certainty whether it was the blood of person 'A' or person 'B,''' Ribeiro told Portuguese state Broadcaster RPT.
"They help guide us in our investigation but not with the mathematical precision some people are saying.''
Madeleine's disappearance on May 3 from a hotel in southern Portugal, and her parents' publicity campaign to find her, has attracted worldwide attention.
The case took a turn in recent days, when Portuguese police said forensic tests on evidence gathered months after the girl vanished found traces of blood in the couple's car.
The traces, apparently missed in earlier tests, were uncovered by sniffer dogs brought from Britain.
It has been suggested today that the DNA may have come from Madeleine's favourite stuffed toy - Cuddle Cat - that Kate McCann carried around for months after the disappearance.
"I would have thought Madeleine's DNA is all over Cuddle Cat, so wherever Cuddle Cat goes, some of Madeleine's DNA gets left behind,'' former detective chief inspector Peter Kirkham told Sky News.
A forensic expert said it was possible for DNA to be transferred from an object.
``If I shake hands with someone, for example, then get into my car, it's likely that their DNA would be transferred into my car,'' forensic scientist Professor Allan Jamieson told Sky.
"If they've handled objects that I then pick up and then take into my car, then also that would allow the DNA to transfer into my car.''
Sky said police were "adamant'' they had found the most "damning'' evidence yet implicating either one or both of the McCanns in their daughter's death.
"The evidence suggests very strongly that it was not that her DNA had been transferred from clothing or from a cuddly toy,'' Sky's report said.
The McCanns say Madeleine vanished from a hotel room in where she and her siblings were sleeping, while her parents ate dinner at a nearby restaurant.
Portuguese police said they expected to hand-deliver tomorrow to the McCanns the results of their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance tomorrow.
The McCanns, who returned to Britain on Sunday with their two-year-old twins, kept a low profile today, avoiding reporters camped outside their home.


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/09/11/1189276663957.html

i find the level of certainty by some posters on either side of this argument almost as interesting as the case itself.

Agree

They did it. It all adds up, unless the evidence is planted. Here is something else now.

Large amount of Madeleine's hair 'found in boot of parents' hire car' | the Daily Mail

Substantial quantities of Madeleine McCann's hair were found in the boot of her parents' hire car, it's been revealed.

DNA from bodily fluids also found in the boot of the Renault Scenic car, hired by Kate and Gerry McCann 25 days after her disappearance, was a "90 per cent match" rather than the 100 per cent being widely reported.

A DNA sample would have to be pretty fresh for a 100% match. Deterioration would explain this. The mother has even gone so far as to suggest the evidence has been planted by the real abductor.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck & looks like a duck - it's a duck.

Social services in England will take those twins off them even if the police don't charge them. Watch & see.

Mrs Mc Cann has cruelty in her eyes. I can see it. Them's wrong-uns thats for sure.

Originally Posted by Lily

If I shake hands with someone, for example, then get into my car, it's likely that their DNA would be transferred into my car

Not likely to end up under the upholstery or in the boot though, is it?

Originally Posted by Dr Zaius

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck & looks like a duck - it's a duck.

interesting. link available?

There's some stupid bint on the Daily Mail Forum who reckons the murderer hired the rental car before the McCanns had it.

Silly Moo.

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

There's some stupid bint on the Daily Mail Forum who reckons the murderer hired the rental car before the McCanns had it.

Wasn't lily was it?

Originally Posted by obsidian

i find the level of certainty by some posters on either side of this argument almost as interesting as the case itself.

I second this one.
In any case, if they did not do it, they must be going through hell.
I they did it also, actually.

Protuguese Police are now backing off.

We do not substantiate claims made in the Media about DNA being found in the Hire Car. The evidence is still under investigation.

I just want to reiterate that if the killers are Teakdoor member, then BRING BACK MADDY - thats all we want, preferably in as undead a condition as possible.

...nobody will blame you (with the possible exception of the cops, who will beat the living crap out of you).

I recall seeing David Beckham, Elton John and others pleading for the return of this child.

If these two doctors are trying to go big to make them appear perfect victims, it'll backfire with a lot more harm.

I'd also like to state for the record, I didn't do it ... this time.

Originally Posted by Texpat

it'll backfire

You're telling me it will.

They are going down, big time. It always come out in the end.

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Wasn't lily was it?

Well, that is about as credible as a lot of stuff being spouted.

^
it was you wasn't it.


small world.

Here's the cherry on the cake (or kick in the teeth, depending how you see it) for all those who donated money to the cause of finding the little girl.

GERRY and Kate McCann will discover tonight if they can use the £1million donated by the public to find her to pay for their defence. The couple risk a public backlash if the board controlling Madeleine’s fund hands over the cash to shell out for a £500-an-hour legal team. But without it the couple could face financial ruin — funding a court battle which could rumble on for years. The fund directors were due to meet in London later to decide if they should pay to fight Portuguese police allegations that the couple killed their four-year-old daughter. The McCanns earn around £120,000 a year between them as doctors but have been on unpaid leave while staying on in Praia da Luz.

Legal experts believe there is little to stop the couple — because the fund is a private business and not a charity. It was knocked back by the Charity Commission which ruled its aims were not broad enough.

The Sun Online - Maddie: Verdict on £1m McCann fund

It's all going to the lawyers.

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

There's some stupid bint on the Daily Mail Forum who reckons the murderer hired the rental car before the McCanns had it. Silly Moo.

Daily Mail? That'd be about the right level of deductive reasoning from their demographic. Remarkably insightful.