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    Australia: Tattoos banned for NSW police

    NSW police officers will be banned from having visible tattoos under a sweeping reform of the force's public image set to roll out this year. The draft policy being prepared for the NSW Police Commissioner is in the final stages of approval and recommends banning all visible tattoos on serving police and new recruits coming into the force.


    The document recommends a new standard for cadets, meaning that anyone with prominent body art trying to join the police could be denied entry to the academy.


    Discussions are also under way as to how existing officers with full-sleeve tattoos, or other prominent body art should be managed, with several options being considered.


    They range from asking officers to wear long-sleeved shirts and pants to cover up the tattoos, to the more extreme measure of having them removed entirely.
    SA Police's policy allows visible tattoos, provided they are not "excessive or offensive to recognised standards of decency or reflect adversely on the professional image the community would reasonably expect from police officers".
    SA Police Minister Jennifer Rankine said she supported SA Police's current policy.
    NSW Assistant Commissioner Michael Corboy, who heads the Education and Training Command, said he believed visible tattoos, particularly those above the neckline, were a blight on the NSW Police Force.


    "This is about professionalism and how you carry yourself in public," Mr Corboy said. "We've identified more recruits coming in with full arm tattoos, or tattoos on their legs, and obviously some are on their necks and faces. "Does the community want someone knocking on their door with a Mike Tyson tattoo on their face or neck? I don't think so."
    Mr Corboy said his personal view was that anyone with a tattoo on their face or neck should not be allowed to become a police officer.
    "We have to send a clear message to those joining that these are our expectations," Mr Corboy said.
    "As far as for how we recruit, my position on facial tattoos is fairly solid, but the debate about letting people in with full-sleeve or arm tattoos ... that is a debate we need to have."
    The initiative follows similar changes instituted in the Victorian Police last year banning beards and ponytails. British and American police forces have also taken steps to ban tattoos.

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    Tatts are fine for other Australian gov't jobs where you're a chance of being shot (i.e. Army, Navy) so what's the difference?. Ok, you probably don't want cops with a swastika on their forehead or a teardrop under their eye sort of thing but who really gives a shit these days about visible tattoos?. This is just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal

    NSW police officers will be banned from having visible tattoos under a sweeping reform of the force's public image set to roll out this year.
    Tattoos banned for NSW police

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    That will not last long as they will have it kicked out under discrimination laws plus they have big problems recruiting cops as its such a shit job.

    Heaps of Firies have visible Tatts and guys holding high rank as well.

    What they could do is go under the radar and just not employ at the recruiting stage muppets that front up with a viable Tatt.
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    I BELIEVE ITS FAIR , AS TATTOO'S ARE FOR WANNABE HARDMEN AND MAORI'S ONLY !

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    That will not last long as they will have it kicked out under discrimination laws plus they have big problems recruiting cops as its such a shit job.

    Heaps of Firies have visible Tatts and guys holding high rank as well.

    What they could do is go under the radar and just not employ at the recruiting stage muppets that front up with a viable Tatt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    I BELIEVE ITS FAIR , AS TATTOO'S ARE FOR WANNABE HARDMEN AND MAORI'S ONLY !

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    "This is about professionalism and how you carry yourself in public," Mr Corboy said. "We've identified more recruits coming in with full arm tattoos, or tattoos on their legs, and obviously some are on their necks and faces. "Does the community want someone knocking on their door with a Mike Tyson tattoo on their face or neck? I don't think so."
    I have no opintion, really. I have no problem with tattoos.

    I think that tattoos are a trend (albeit it permanent for those who participate), and these 'restrictions' have been tried elsewhere.

    The US Marine Corps made a rule banning / refusing to recruit Marines with tatts that went below the sleeve / elbow, and there was so much resistance / opposition / criticism the USMC changed, and did not implement the policy.

    A police force is different than the military.

    But if many, many, potentially productive recruits / officers are excluded, the organization could back-track.

    Perhaps, perhaps, not.

    Lot of tatts these days.
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    sorry , my bad i was in a hurry and i did not see the caps lock was on !

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    The reason for discouraging tattoos is risk of hepatitis.

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    ^ No it's not. It has nothing to do with anything except an illogical misconceptions about image.

    NSW police obviously don't want the best police force they can have. They think that's what they are trying to achieve but they are doing the exact opposite. An 8 year old child could see their error in judgement and logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    British and American police forces have also taken steps to ban tattoos.
    They were banned in the British police a few decades ago. Now, not so - and I can't see how they could bring that in without sacking a load of serving police officers.

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    ^^ I believe that her majesty had an aversion to the sight of an armful of coloured ink and so senior officers across the land ordered their men to cover up when on royal duties for fear of a beheading or two.

    Difficult to turn away good ex-military men with a tat or two merely because an elderly lady living in a big house can't stand the sight of them. Common sense applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    British and American police forces have also taken steps to ban tattoos.
    They were banned in the British police a few decades ago. Now, not so - and I can't see how they could bring that in without sacking a load of serving police officers.
    So Mike Tyson is working as a police officer in Britain ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    The document recommends a new standard for cadets, meaning that anyone with prominent body art trying to join the police could be denied entry to the academy.
    I would think that would be no problem as there are so many unemployed to choose from .

    It saves having problems later like the Company I work for have ,, they have a NO SMOKING policy in all our contracts , but then the twatts go and take on smokers to do the jobs
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    Call me old fashioned but...... individuals working for and representing the Government in a law-enforcement capacity, should not have any visible personal effects, jewellery, pins, private patches and tattoos .....what ever, as an impartial officer of the law nothing that set you apart or could be signalling any kind of personal preference, or effects of a personal nature that could be dangerous to you or your "costumers", has any place when you are on the Job.

    Tattoos that can be covered by a shirt OK, but tattoos creeping down on your hands or up your neck etc. sorry - but go look elsewhere for work, no big deal just one of the criteria for that kind of work, just like to small size or other physical fitness issues, having a rap sheath, ability to read and write, to bad eye sight, colour blind, not being able to get a driving licence etc. etc. etc.

    Earrings, wedding bands, necklaces etc. are a potential hazard to you and members of the public.

    That is how it used to be when I was working, and I still think it makes perfect sense.

    Firemen, rescue services, soldiers is another kettle of fish as far as tattoos goes IMO.

    Young people, quite often, make less well thought out hasty choices, and visible tattoos that cant be covered by normal clothes is one of them IMO, I can not count the many I have known to bitterly regret that later in life.

    What seems neat and clever when you are 19 sometimes fail to impress anyone, yourself inclusive, later in life, not to mention that all tattoos need ironing when you get 60-70 years old

    That said I have some very good friends with extensive body art, I don't believe they cry over any lost job-opportunities, it was their their choice and they are fine with it, and it does not make them any lesser persons/friends in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    I believe that her majesty had an aversion to the sight of an armful of coloured ink and so senior officers across the land ordered their men to cover up when on royal duties
    Think it might have been a little more than that, as I remember my Dad applying for the police when I was a kid (he was Navy drug squad/vice squad) and he told us he was turned down as he had a tatt on each forearm and couldn't wear the regulation short sleeves in the summer. Could be wrong, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Earrings, wedding bands, necklaces etc. are a potential hazard to you and members of the public.
    I'm interested you include wedding bands in that, Larv. When I was nursing the only jewellery we were allowed to wear was stud earrings and wedding bands, because of the risk to ourselves and patients, and now, in care I wear no jewellery at work, except for my wedding band, for just that reason (old people can have pretty thin skin), though a lot of other carers do. Why do you think wedding bands are risky?

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    I down loaded a few crime shows. some like Police 10/7, from NZ, it contrasted with my recollection of what Police used to be like. Clean shaven, no ear rings, no Tatts.

    Now they look like candidates of the local chapter of a bike gang. How does one tell the crims from the Police?

    Apart from the body art they seem like good guys, unlike Like American cowboys with their gun ready to blow away the first Black man they see.
    I guess NZ police don't need that image, of hiding behind a gun.
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    Shit how are tattooists suppose to practice, most tattooist practice on pig skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Tattoos banned for NSW police
    They should have stopped after banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by larvidchr
    Earrings, wedding bands, necklaces etc. are a potential hazard to you and members of the public.
    I'm interested you include wedding bands in that, Larv. When I was nursing the only jewellery we were allowed to wear was stud earrings and wedding bands, because of the risk to ourselves and patients, and now, in care I wear no jewellery at work, except for my wedding band, for just that reason (old people can have pretty thin skin), though a lot of other carers do. Why do you think wedding bands are risky?
    Hi Rain I believe they now leave wearing wedding bands up to the individual, but my advise would be not to, I have seen injuries both to officers and "costumers" from wedding bands.

    In your line of work I personally would be concerned about hygiene and infection risks, we all know that hand washing often enough is sometimes an issue in nursing/care/hospital environments, and with new very resilient dangerous bugs about, personally I would want/need to remove a wedding band for cleaning it and my hands thoroughly after any patient contact, wounds, bodily fluids etc., but that is just me I'm not a professional in those areas.

    But for law-enforcement - It can get caught in zippers clothing or other objects as you scramble to get a hold etc. once caught you might not be able to retreat or move out of the way quickly enough, and big pressure on such a narrow object on your hand can very easily lead to injury.

    Wedding bands can unintentionally cause injury to people you are handling, I have seen it a couple of times personally.

    The taxpayers are footing the bill for Officers sick/injury time, and compensation for disability percentages, as they are footing the bill for injuries to "costumers", possible lawsuits a hassle you do not need etc., and it simply don't have to be if you are not wearing jewellery.

    Lastly it is not always a good idea to give away any personal or private info. sometimes giving away your marital status is enough for nasty people to use for threats and intimidation on the spot or later, and you just don't need that .... believe me I know.

    Incidents like all the above is granted rare, but they do happen, so it is all part of the standard risk-elimination of a whole host of things, that you need to employ in certain jobs.

    At the end of the day you want to go home uninjured, keeping your family safe, and so too the public that you serve (most of the time ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by moose65 View Post
    I BELIEVE ITS FAIR , AS TATTOO'S ARE FOR WANNABE HARDMEN AND MAORI'S ONLY !

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    So which one are you ?

    Or are you a tattooist ?

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