Thread: Cairo Protests

Just another day in Muslimland.

Anything new?

This Muslim Brotherhood bunch gotta go.

Even this ElBaradei guy now has cold feet.

There's nothing profound in predicting a revolution/coup in an unstable country, which many people did when the MB won the election. Could've been different. For example, they could have knuckled down to their pre-election promises of more freedoms in return for Sharia in small doses, as opposed to the Salafist message of instant Sharia for all, which I imagine can be traumatic to a psyche lurching from secular to Sharia. Or they could have killed a few Egyptian border police and blamed Israel, or cut out the pretence and raised the Koran to mobilise, which is always good for Muslim on Muslim bonding and an efficient distraction from their abysmal leadership.

But Morsi got it wrong, victory went to his head and he alienated too many groups at the same time; the military by making too many moves against it, and the opposition by breaking all of his promises to them. And as soon as it started going wrong the MB resorted to the same tactics they decried when used by Mubarak, violent attacks against protesters, even though recent experiences across north Africa should have reminded them that streets filled with angry people usually leads to what they don’t want or expect.

So what happens now? Egypt's new leaders will inherit a crumbling economy and a wave of popular anger over it. Europe and the US will step in with another mountain of free cash and more sweet words about democracy, with only fools and politicians believing that money will go to the country and fewer still that a Muslim "democracy" on Israel's doorstep could lead to peace or in fact the stability that Egypt enjoyed under the strongman, Mubarak.

Meanwhile, aside from the main Salafist opposition there's only the liberals left that can run a noodle shop. So the MB will likely stage another revolution, or call off all bets and invoke civil war as Baradei runs what's left of the country into the ground if he isn't removed or assassinated first.



Before the so-called "Arab Spring," Liberal Western policy "experts" claimed that the Arab world were accusing us of supporting tyrants, and that we should be seen to practice democracy by supporting the will of the people, which turned out to be Islamism. Fast forward to the reality of Islamic tyranny, and the Arab street as well our own low info Libs still accuse us of supporting tyrants, and still hate us. Just as well TD doesn't have a nuke, I might petition to borrow it.

BBC reporting today's body count (Cairo) is 50 dead 400 injured.

And people wonder why folks come to Thailand to work for a rubbish wage for teaching etc.

Strangely the price of shares that i hold in an Egyptian mining company have risen for the past few days despite the conflict. Ramadan starts tomorrow so all will be at peace.

And so it begins. Another ME country fcuked up for the next decade or so. As said I used to go there diving regularly but not anymore. Link to an article on the shooting here

Egypt violence 2013: Army opens fire on crowd of demonstrators killing 51 and injuring 322 | Mail Online

A sad day

Nah, theyll just chow down at 5am, grab their clubs then out the door at sunrise for some more middle class head bashing. Sure wouldn't want to be a secular woman on the streets of any egyptian city today

Originally Posted by Bower

BBC reporting today's body count (Cairo) is 50 dead 400 injured.

Believe the body count over the 4th of July weekend in Chicago was higher than that.

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

And so it begins. Another ME country fcuked up for the next decade or so. As said I used to go there diving regularly but not anymore. Link to an article on the shooting here

Egypt violence 2013: Army opens fire on crowd of demonstrators killing 51 and injuring 322 | Mail Online

A sad day

Egypt used to be a real lively tourist destination making hundreds of millions in foreign exchange and providing thousands of local jobs ,both my Daughters have been there twice and had a whale of a time , Islamic radicalism has now killed it off for a long long time maybe forever , and Big Fella I'm afraid this is just the"feeling out" stage before they get really serious .

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

Strangely the price of shares that i hold in an Egyptian mining company have risen for the past few days despite the conflict. Ramadan starts tomorrow so all will be at peace.

Keep your nose glued to the screen and finger on the sell button.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

And so it begins. Another ME country fcuked up for the next decade or so. As said I used to go there diving regularly but not anymore. Link to an article on the shooting here

Egypt violence 2013: Army opens fire on crowd of demonstrators killing 51 and injuring 322 | Mail Online

A sad day

Egypt used to be a real lively tourist destination making hundreds of millions in foreign exchange and providing thousands of local jobs ,both my Daughters have been there twice and had a whale of a time , Islamic radicalism has now killed it off for a long long time maybe forever , and Big Fella I'm afraid this is just the"feeling out" stage before they get really serious .

How long before the first suicide bomber strikes ? I can't see it getting any better there for a long time.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Bower

BBC reporting today's body count (Cairo) is 50 dead 400 injured.

Believe the body count over the 4th of July weekend in Chicago was higher than that.

As usual you are wrong.

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

And so it begins. Another ME country fcuked up for the next decade or so. As said I used to go there diving regularly but not anymore. Link to an article on the shooting here

Egypt violence 2013: Army opens fire on crowd of demonstrators killing 51 and injuring 322 | Mail Online

A sad day

Egypt used to be a real lively tourist destination making hundreds of millions in foreign exchange and providing thousands of local jobs ,both my Daughters have been there twice and had a whale of a time , Islamic radicalism has now killed it off for a long long time maybe forever , and Big Fella I'm afraid this is just the"feeling out" stage before they get really serious .

How long before the first suicide bomber strikes ? I can't see it getting any better there for a long time.

Getting better? most likely worse,Hey Big Fella this is just the"warm up" period before the Imams whip them into a frenzy ,suicide bombers? just a normal transition I would say ,from riots to martyrs

The imam volume and influence rises as the situation deteriorates.

Originally Posted by leemo

The imam volume and influence rises as the situation deteriorates.

Yeah sure as night follows day ,in this article they call for "jihad and Martyrdom" mind you those that are calling for it will not be leading by example ,no way , they'll leave that to the brainwashed religious cannon fodder ,I wonder who they will blame if the bodies start stacking up?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23214054

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So a sovereign state can hold a free and fair election, with international monitors who agree outcome as such, but because the establishment-minority don't like the outcome, and most importantly the imperial powers like the US don't like the outcome, a coup is ok because the minority fill the streets with their masses? Sounds a bit like Thailand doesn't it? The US reaction to the Egyptian coup was almost word for word to the US reaction to the deposing of Thaksin. Why? Thailand is a non-NATO treaty ally of the US and Prem is heir pal. Egypt is their number one pal and so the Army generals are cousins to Langley and DC. It's worth noting that (Prior to Iraq and maybe still..), Cairo and Bangkok housed the largest US foreign Missions in the world - by far.

Using a ballot box to obtain power and then installing the sharia is not realy democracy.
Cause once the sharia is put in place those ballot boxes will never be used again.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So a sovereign state can hold a free and fair election, with international monitors who agree outcome as such, but because the establishment-minority don't like the outcome, and most importantly the imperial powers like the US don't like the outcome, a coup is ok because the minority fill the streets with their masses? Sounds a bit like Thailand doesn't it? The US reaction to the Egyptian coup was almost word for word to the US reaction to the deposing of Thaksin. Why? Thailand is a non-NATO treaty ally of the US and Prem is heir pal. Egypt is their number one pal and so the Army generals are cousins to Langley and DC. It's worth noting that (Prior to Iraq and maybe still..), Cairo and Bangkok housed the largest US foreign Missions in the world - by far.

Using a ballot box to obtain power and then installing the sharia is not realy democracy.
Cause once the sharia is put in place those ballot boxes will never be used again.

Quite true, Sharia= Democracy simply doe not compute

That 'Honor Killing' thing.

Is that part and parcel of Sharia Law too? Genuine question.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

That 'Honor Killing' thing.

Is that part and parcel of Sharia Law too? Genuine question.

Reading this article one could certainly not discount a link between the two ,raw statistics are a bit hard to argue against ain't they Women Under Sharia Law, Part 2: 1,400% Increase in ‘Honor Killings’ in Turkey | NewsReal Blog

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So a sovereign state can hold a free and fair election, with international monitors who agree outcome as such, but because the establishment-minority don't like the outcome, and most importantly the imperial powers like the US don't like the outcome, a coup is ok because the minority fill the streets with their masses? Sounds a bit like Thailand doesn't it? The US reaction to the Egyptian coup was almost word for word to the US reaction to the deposing of Thaksin. Why? Thailand is a non-NATO treaty ally of the US and Prem is heir pal. Egypt is their number one pal and so the Army generals are cousins to Langley and DC. It's worth noting that (Prior to Iraq and maybe still..), Cairo and Bangkok housed the largest US foreign Missions in the world - by far.

Morsi won the elections by a narrow margin, and the majority of Egyptians was against him now. For the things Morsi and the Brotherhood did without authorization by the election. Such as pushing trough an Islamic agenda, and increasing the powers of the president, making his decrees not challengable by the parliament. In a sense, the brotherhood committed a coup first.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So a sovereign state can hold a free and fair election, with international monitors who agree outcome as such, but because the establishment-minority don't like the outcome, and most importantly the imperial powers like the US don't like the outcome, a coup is ok because the minority fill the streets with their masses? Sounds a bit like Thailand doesn't it? The US reaction to the Egyptian coup was almost word for word to the US reaction to the deposing of Thaksin. Why? Thailand is a non-NATO treaty ally of the US and Prem is heir pal. Egypt is their number one pal and so the Army generals are cousins to Langley and DC. It's worth noting that (Prior to Iraq and maybe still..), Cairo and Bangkok housed the largest US foreign Missions in the world - by far.

Using a ballot box to obtain power and then installing the sharia is not realy democracy.
Cause once the sharia is put in place those ballot boxes will never be used again.

Yes they will. I'm sure Hamas are discussing their reelection strategy as you read.