Thread: Jihadists plead guilty.

Woolwich Crown Court 6th June 2013.

Prosecutors described the actions of Omar Khan 28, Mohammed Saud 23, Jewel Udin 27, Zohaib Ahmed 22 and Anzal Hussain 25, as that of a tight knit and cohesive group who were intent on causing maximum destruction in their planned atack on an EDL rally at Dewsbury in April last year.

The planned attack was designed to cause a tit-for-tat reaction that would spiral out of control creating total mayhem in UK.

The attack was thwarted only because the men arrived at the rally at 4 pm, after most people had left due to the non-arrival of it's key speakers.

The five jihadists had driven from Birmingham, and on arrival at Dewsbury found that their planned target, the EDL rally, had disbanded and gone, so they then went to a local chipper and a mosque, then drove off home to Birmingham.

On the way home, a traffic officer did a random stop check on one of their vehicles and noticed that the regisration did not match the car, so impounded it.

When the vehicle was subsequently searched, a variety of weapons were found in it.

Within 48 hours, all five men involved were arrested and charged.

The five wannabe jihadists had printed their intentions on sheets of paper declaring their love for death and other attestations to their faith in Islam. These were found along with other documents in their homes as well as their plans for terrorism on a computer.
Also found was their weaponry of choice.
These included an improvised explosive device, (an IED, a bomb), two sawn off shotguns, swords, knives and a machete, according to a news report.

Excerpted and edited, read more from;
hhtp://www.themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/uk-islamic-extremist-planned-murderous-attack-on-EDL-rally

(Or type; Islamic extremists planned murderous attack on EDL rally.)

The secretary general for the Muslim Councils of Britain called upon all Muslim communities to unite against what he termed the "wave of attacks" on Muslms recently.

The "wave of attacks" has turned out to be largely internet based insults, much of it from outside of the UK and so far not a single case of physical assault.

There's one reported incidence of spitting, yet to be confirmed, an egg throwing incident, some bacon left on a mosque step, several broken windows.

Four or five cases of graffiti scrawled on Muslim buildings, a couple of atempted arson attacks, one man was arrested for entering a mosque carrying a knife, a damaged bookcase.

Now a Somali cultural centre burnt to a shell.

This last incident is strange and sad if not bizarre.

We're accustomed to reading of graffiti scrawled on target buildings, such as at this latest fire,where the letters EDL were sprayed in red, but co-incidentally, the war memorial was again targetted with more red graffiti, again with the letters EDL .

Why would the EDL tag the war memorial? Indeed, why sign off with EDL onto any target if they (the EDL) wanted any kind of public support? It would have been far more effective to scrawl pig, scum etc on their targets. But the war memorial? Pull the other one.

What makes the burning and tagging of the Somali Al Rahma Islamic Centre unique, is that the Muslim community there are a very little known group of a peaceful, non-mainstream sect of Islam, well liked by their neighbours, and have co-existed well with all religions throughout their history,..... until, of course, Suffi or Shia Muslims decide to destroy their peaceful communities from time to time, as so often happens in Pakistan and Somalia.

This particular group of Muslims were seeking protection, not from groups like the EDL, but from mainstream Islamic jihadists!

The burning and tagging of their cultural centre, along with the tagging of the war memorial on Wednesday was not a coincidence, they were synchronous events.

The EDL would not have wanted to be blamed for or associated with either of them.

Who are these Somali who operated the Somali Bravanese Welfare Administration?

Persecuted by Islamic warlords since the 1990s, the Qadiriyya Sufi community of Brava, Somalia have fled their their homes in Somalia and are scattered in small groups around the world, many in UK, who gave them asylum because they were Muslim, being persecuted by other jihadist majority Muslim sects.

Sufi are persecuted throughout the Islamic world, and the fire at their cultural centre in Musswell Hill, North London was the last thing they expected in UK.

There's more to this fire than meets the eye, especially in the light of declared intentions of both the two Woolwich murderers, to start a war for Islam in UK, and the similar intention by the Birmingham group of jihadists to cause maximum carnage and the disruption of civil order in UK by starting a tit-for-tat campaign of violence at Dewsbury.

You can read more about the Somali Bravanese Qadiriyya Sufi community by going to this site or Google for more.
Http://www.bravanesecommunity.com/somali-bravanese/

^Of course its an EDL "frame up", no one could be that stupid as to burn a building to the ground ,or commit acts of vandalism and leave their "calling card"

Reading the Yorkshire Post, it sounds like the prosecution is claiming they were bumbling incompetents. Er I don't think that will hold.

Originally Posted by Mosha

Reading the Yorkshire Post, it sounds like the prosecution is claiming they were bumbling incompetents. Er I don't think that will hold.

Hi Moshe ,reading the Yorkshire Post myself it would appear that the Prosecution are not swallowing the crap put out by the defense that they was just bumbling incompetents as they had been planning it for 8 weeks previously ,although its not much by way of a defense to just say that they was just bad time keepers eh Islamist attack on EDL

The EDL apparently ran out of speakers, so they went home early.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

call the EDL extremists

They are - just not as willing to go that extra mile as the nutcase islamists are. But in their hearts, they are no different.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

call the EDL extremists

They are - just not as willing to go that extra mile as the nutcase islamists are. But in their hearts, they are no different.

Really?,they are just not willing to go the extra mile like the nutcase islamists are, ,yeah I'll go along with that!, How many EDL members are in clink for plotting to kill people or actually killing people because of their different religion? , do you really believe that the EDL have it all wrong when they bring to peoples attention that all is not well with our society and its getting worse ,the sex grooming cases being a classic example ,with the likes of Choudary and his ilk coming out with religious hate when ever the opportunity presents itself .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

How many EDL members are in clink for plotting to kill people or actually killing people because of their different religion?

Yep =- no commitment to the cause.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

,the sex grooming cases

Hmm All white men are pedos because Jimmy savile was. heh?



Some of their points are valid, however on the whole they are just a bunch of hooligans and thugs. I would be more likely to cross the road to get out of the path of EDLs types than a group of muslims walking down the road.

Psuedo ,simple question ,Are you absolutely sure these are EDL supporters in the Photo ? cos to me looking at the photo they have all trappings of being the UVF Which is a paramilitary group , just like these portrayed in the link , maybe could could produced a genuine photo of the EDL carrying an automatic weapon , and to be candid you do yourself no favours posting this garbage ,which reeks of desperation ,here are the UVF BBC News - Who are the UVF?

They're UVF, an Ulster Loyalist paramilitary group most active in the 1990s in Ulster and Eire.

Tommy Robinson of the EDL has categorically denied that any of his group caused the Musswell Hill Somali welfare centre fire or scrawled any graffiti that night.

He also said that any EDL supporter caught damaging or defacing any mosques or attacking any member of the public would be reported to the police.

Originally Posted by ENT

They're UVF, an Ulster Loyalist paramilitary group most active in the 1990s in Ulster and Eire.

I reckon Psuedo has sank to a new low by trying to pass them off as the EDL ,laughable denials to follow shortly?? and of course no answer as to how many of the EDL was in the slammer for killing or attempting to kill people of a different religion !!

The Muslim jihadist tit-for-tat campaign dreamed up by the Birmingham group last year, in their failed Dewsbury bomb attack, led on, coincidentally (?) as their trial progressed at the Woolwich Crown Court, to two of their converted brothers trying to do the same thing, by murdering Lee Rigby in the most shocking and public way possible.

This act was designed to get maximum press coverage and force an anti-Muslim backlash of such huge proportions as to make the resident UK population of Muslims look like victims of seething British racism, thus garnering more sympathy and support for Islam, instead of what it really was, murder, and......... an insanity of Islamic jihadist proportions.

BUT IT DIDN'T WORK.

So, who's buying the idea that some honky racist group burnt down the old scout hall in Muswell Hill?

Unless, of course it was a bunch of lefties on an double header, an insurance fiddle and a fit-up a victim jive, eh, chappies?

Police reckon lots of accelerant used, fire burnt good and hot from the INSIDE.

So who got inside the place so easy to start with?

Oh, yeh, and a witness ( dunno how he/she saw this, place was on fire and stuff) reckoned they saw all this graffiti on the INSIDE, too!!!

Wow.

So, how many mosques and other Muslim places got burnt down in the last few years...by Muslims?

Hmmmm,.......a few.

A mosque in Tuba Zanghariya, Northern Israel, anti-Islam/Arab graffiti found, Israeli activists blamed, then it was discovered that Muslims did the job. That was in 2012.

March 13th 2012, Brussels, Belgium, a 34 yr old Muslim chap burnt down a mosque, killed the imam (smoke inhalation). Congregation locked the perp in a lityle prayer room.till cops arrived.

Austria, an Albanian Muslim owned pizeria burns down, so does the Muslim Turkish Association building next door, anti-Islamic graffiti sprayed around, 100 demonstrators get out chanting about it, causing trouble, accusing Xtians,....... again a Muslim perp, all an insurance fraud. That was Feb. 2013.

So who dunnit......the empty Somali welfare centre fire?

Originally Posted by ENT

Tommy Robinson of the EDL has categorically denied that any of his group caused the Musswell Hill Somali welfare centre fire or scrawled any graffiti that night.

He also said that any EDL supporter caught damaging or defacing any mosques or attacking any member of the public would be reported to the police.

Ahhh but maybe it was radicalised EDF supporters who have branched out by themselves to get violent. According to your principals, the EDL is responsible and should be arrested and stopped being allowed to sign on.

^ that got you hard writing that, didn;t it? lol

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Tommy Robinson of the EDL has categorically denied that any of his group caused the Musswell Hill Somali welfare centre fire or scrawled any graffiti that night.

He also said that any EDL supporter caught damaging or defacing any mosques or attacking any member of the public would be reported to the police.

Ahhh but maybe it was radicalised EDF supporters who have branched out by themselves to
get violent.

According to your principals, the EDL is responsible and should be arrested and stopped being allowed to sign on.

Eh? Come again!

What principals? Surely you mean principles, and what principles of mine are you on about?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ that got you hard writing that, didn;t it? lol

I must admit I did get a bit of a "semi" on

Originally Posted by ENT

What principals? Surely you mean principles, and what principles of mine are you on about?

Don't you fecking start on that as well.

Anyway, couple of boons cut a blokes head off, so therefore they are radicalised by the imams and supported by all muslims so they are all to blame. Well, if the ADL has some radicalised people doing the hard core shit, surely then the EDL people in charge are telling them to do it and all their members are supporting them?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ that got you hard writing that, didn;t it? lol

I must admit I did get a bit of a "semi" on

lol you make I larrrrfffffff

There's not a lot of fuss being raised by anyone over the Musswell Hill Somali centre fire,cexcet of course by the Unite Against Fascism group and a a lot of exagerated whining and moaning coming from the Sec. General of the British Muslim Association and of course, Tell MAMA.

The local community is still pretty much together, Xtians, Jews andvthe Sufis involged are all quite calm and getting on with life, while the UAF group have decided to hold a demo, which sounds as though they're keen on making a fuss abut things, not the Somali Sufis.

Meanwhile, police are interested in finding the arsonists, they think that more than one person was involved and that one or more of them was injured by the fire.

They're also keen on speaking to anyone who might have been around before or after the fire started, to find out if the graffiti on the outside walls of the centre was scrawled on before or after the fire, so they say.

This is all starting to look as if there's "another interested party" involved in the fire, IMO.

Anyay, if there are one or two folk running around with burns injuries, they're going to need medical attention, someone's got to run to the chemist or visit a hospital and others are going to know about it., and the victims won't be able to do the usuals, like go to work etc.

Just my opinion, but the EDL on the jackets seems vey white conpared to the other white objects. Cut and paste job and would seriously doubt that of it was real the police wouldn't have raided all their home to recover automatic weapons. Jim