Thread: Future of drone strikes could see execution by algorithm

Originally Posted by pseudolus

"Pakistan has called on the US to cease its campaign immediately," he continued, adding that as a matter of international law, the US drone operations involve "the use of force on the territory of another State without its consent and is therefore a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty."

Hmmm. So Pakistan tells the US to stop. It tells the UN to tell the US to stop, but because it is only Pakistan telling them to stop, you think it is OK for the merkins to continue killing civilians by bombing them, whilst flying into their airspace, unauthorised?

now I reckon the Pakis should patrol with fighters in the region, and shoot any drones out of the air. Would you agree that they are justified in doing this and if they want to, it is their prerogative?

Imran Khan said as much in his election speech that he was going to shoot down the drones , however I do believe he had some sort of accident and finished up in hospital , telling them to stop and really meaning it is two different things entirely ,and what about the State dept spokewomen Victoria Nuland who stated "we have a strong ongoing counter terrorism dialogue with Pakistan and that will continue" something about the whole thing stinks ,if Imran Khan said he was going to shoot the drones down why is this present administration not doing the same?, it would seem they are within their rights!

^ Don't you find it strange that every time a Pakistan politician tells tales on the US, they either gets assassinated or has a nasty accident?

Anyway Piwi, wtf? They are asking for it to stop, so should the US stop?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

the million dollar question is why oh why don't they just do it ?

Because you dick, the yanks would launch air strikes against their airfields in retaliation but would keep paying the money to them to stop them being shitty against Israel.

So you will not answer the question then? Why not?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

the million dollar question is why oh why don't they just do it ?

Because you dick, the yanks would launch air strikes against their airfields in retaliation but would keep paying the money to them to stop them being shitty against Israel.

So you will not answer the question then? Why not?

Are you brain dead?, I have already said I would answer when I know the outcome of the UN General assembly in OCT as I ain't a clue what evidence or facts will be forthcoming from either side ,have you? as to the US bombing the Paki Airfields this is total bollocks as the slow moving drones could be shot down with stinger type hand held rocket launchers ,or even heavy calibre machine guns , there,s no end to how these drones could be downed and the Paki Government would be perfectly within their right,s to do so,do you agree or disagree ?and reading your post 150 again it would appear you agree

You do not need to know the outcome.

what is wrong with you ? what are you scared of?

Pakistan are saying Stop. Should the US stop?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

You do not need to know the outcome.

what is wrong with you ? what are you scared of?

Pakistan are saying Stop. Should the US stop?

Maybe the stop is not genuine and just window dressing to confuse the masses and people like you , and I see reading your post 150 again you are in favour of shooting the drones down , why not? the paki's are perfectly within their rights ain't they I wonder whats stopping em?

Hey Psuedo what chance a drone against this little Pakistani Baby ,WHY don't they use it?

^ because the retaliation would be severe. the only people allowed to attack US planes ad ships is Israel. I have answered that for you about a hundred times now including giving the analogy of a beaten wife, not being financially secure enough to leave her aggressive husband but pleads him to stop and even told the cops, and you would walk on by because the police had not told him to stop.

They have asked the US to stop. The US carries on killing their citizens and invading their air space. Should the US stop?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^ because the retaliation would be severe. the only people allowed to attack US planes ad ships is Israel. I have answered that for you about a hundred times now including giving the analogy of a beaten wife, not being financially secure enough to leave her aggressive husband but pleads him to stop and even told the cops, and you would walk on by because the police had not told him to stop.

They have asked the US to stop. The US carries on killing their citizens and invading their air space. Should the US stop?

And how many times doI have to tell you there is no way of knowing if this "stop" thing is genuine ,how do you know that the US retaliation would be severe with the World looking on? , don't you think that Obomber has enough problems on his hands , and yeah and I agree with your post 150 shoot the murdering drones down and fuck the septics

Piwi - all I ask for is an insight into your mind, pal. Its about opinion. It's like if i asked you which you would prefer to be eating right now, a Double Decker or a crunchie bar. Academic because neither available in thailand but it doe stop you from saying which you would prefer.

Same as saying "If PAKISTAN wanted it to stop, should the US comply".

You answers to date basically say "No, the US can do what ever they like". Is that fair enough to say?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Piwi - all I ask for is an insight into your mind, pal. Its about opinion. It's like if i asked you which you would prefer to be eating right now, a Double Decker or a crunchie bar. Academic because neither available in thailand but it doe stop you from saying which you would prefer.

Same as saying "If PAKISTAN wanted it to stop, should the US comply".

You answers to date basically say "No, the US can do what ever they like". Is that fair enough to say?

No!

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Piwi - all I ask for is an insight into your mind, pal. Its about opinion. It's like if i asked you which you would prefer to be eating right now, a Double Decker or a crunchie bar. Academic because neither available in thailand but it doe stop you from saying which you would prefer.

Same as saying "If PAKISTAN wanted it to stop, should the US comply".

You answers to date basically say "No, the US can do what ever they like". Is that fair enough to say?

No!

What does this mean then?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

There should be no sanctuary for the US's enemies

^ there are many many ways of taking the enemy out of the equation without using drones or hell fire missiles ,covert operations by special forces have been carried out for Donkeys years world wide before drones was ever thought of, In my view Drones are being used simply because there is some tacit agreement between the US and Pakistan which is born out with my Telegraph /Wiki leaks link in post# 136, and no doubt this will all come out in OCT with the full meeting of the UN security council ,now FFS go and pester some one else

"If PAKISTAN genuinely wanted it to stop, should the US comply?

^Classic Politicians world wide are famed for being pathological liars, do you really believe Paki Politicians are any different? cos if you think they are any more genuine than their world wide counterparts then you must believe in the tooth fairy and Father Christmas , now for the last time, I'll wait until the UN report comes out in OCT before I'll give my much sought after opinion ,over and out.

You learned all you know from Michael Howard didn't you.

If PAKISTAN genuinely wanted it to stop, should the US comply?

After reading all of this, I come up with just one question.

Who gives a rip what the UN thinks? Would any major power really give over its sovereignty to the UN?

The UN is a hapless bunch of hacks who might with some luck be able to get some food and medical aid to a country AFTER it's devastated by war or a natural disaster.

Just sayin'.

^The UN has it uses ,for instance the UN food aid programme to Africa stops millions from dieing of starvation ,in this case I await developments which should come to a head in OCT with anticipation ,however its been my view for quite some time that secretly the US and Pakistan are in collusion ,with all the Pakistani protests just "window dressing" , this is bolstered by the "daily Telegrapgh / wikileaks " link in my post #136 (and other links I have posted before) ,were the EX prime minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani was alleged to have said "I don't care if they do it(the Yanks) as long as we get the right people,we'll protest to the National Assembly then ignore it" its all there in the link, Pakistan receives mega millions in US aid , maybe if the Drones get stopped the US might stop the Aid too , its been suggested that "certain people" in Pakistan are doing quite well through skimming off the top and corruption in high places is rife ,OCT might bring it out in the open when both sides attend the UN national assembly ,BTW I see you are are a newcomer , welcome aboard

^^ AQgree - the UN are useless, however, Piwi is deferring to the UN so that he does not have to answer this simple question

If PAKISTAN genuinely wanted drone bombing to stop inside Pakistan, should the US comply?

No wiggle room there, just a simple Yes or No will suffice.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

^^ AQgree - the UN are useless, however, Piwi is deferring to the UN so that he does not have to answer this simple question

If PAKISTAN genuinely wanted drone bombing to stop inside Pakistan, should the US comply?

No wiggle room there, just a simple Yes or No will suffice.

Isn't it time you were locked up in a home for "special old people"?