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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Can Pakistan survive without US aid? | Blog | DAWN.COM why not read a bit of reality for a change !!.
    reality , thanxs for the laff . of course Pakistan can survive without US aid , get over yourself , aid always comes with strings .
    You ain't read the article , normal I suppose for some one who thinks he knows everything

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    The guy at the very start of the article said that and being that he seemed to know what he was talking about,
    Roger ...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    "drone bombs to rain down on London" get a grip FFS
    Of course it will not happen, but according to your logic, Piwi, there is as big a case, if not more so, for them to do so.
    1) proven guilt.
    2) tried and failed to get justice

    let the bombing commence? Why is it ok in "pakiland" and not London? After all, "drone fired highly accurate hell fire missiles that can hit a target with pinpoint accuracy" - just take out one house in the street, not a problem, and his wife and kids are fair targets as well.
    According to my logic? you mentioned bombing London not me Now now Psuedo you are being silly again , calm down and try and think rational

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
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    Can Pakistan survive without US aid? | Blog | DAWN.COM why not read a bit of reality for a change !!.
    reality , thanxs for the laff . of course Pakistan can survive without US aid , get over yourself , aid always comes with strings .
    You ain't read the article , normal I suppose for some one who thinks he knows everything

    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    The guy at the very start of the article said that and being that he seemed to know what he was talking about,
    Roger ...............
    Actually the guy turns out to be a women!and this is what she had to say ,Raheel Raza a Canadian of Pakistani Origin argued the same"Ever since the inception of Pakistan the United States has given Pakistan aid, without which it cannot survive" said Ms Raza ,obviously she was not just picked off the street to give her opinion and must have knowledge of Pakistans affairs ,it was these words I referred to ,and who am I to argue?, of course if you or others think she is talking complete bollocks ,then that,s your prerogative entirely

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    absolutes are fraught with danger .................

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    According to my logic? you mentioned bombing London not me Now now Psuedo you are being silly again , calm down and try and think rational
    OK, so why should the Americans not launch a missile attack on london to try and kill Haroon Aswat seeing as they are unable to bring him to US justice through the courts?

    Are we to assume that in your opinion, this statement you made is not true? "There should be no sanctuary for the US's enemies"
    Originally Posted by bsnub "No wonder I drive a tesla"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
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    According to my logic? you mentioned bombing London not me Now now Psuedo you are being silly again , calm down and try and think rational
    OK, so why should the Americans not launch a missile attack on london to try and kill Haroon Aswat seeing as they are unable to bring him to US justice through the courts?

    Are we to assume that in your opinion, this statement you made is not true? "There should be no sanctuary for the US's enemies"
    The UK is the US's Allies and has been since World war one , your talk of Drones and Hell fire Missles being fired in London to bring one Islamic crackpot to justice by the US is quite frankly an Imbecilic crock of shit ,you are taking this forum down to a new dimension of lunacy by your well documented hatred of America!.NO doubt FLUKE and ENT are pissing their pants reading you factless trips into total fantasy land

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    absolutes are fraught with danger .................
    So is thinking you know better than others without a scrap of evidence on your behalf to prove them wrong and you are right

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    I would suggest to all the brain dead out there who think that Pakistan are our allies and does not regard the US as a cash cow to feed their massive corruption please totally ignore this link http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/...6_08092009.pdf or on the other hand if you seek the truth then scroll down on the article ,and then read Psuedo's completely neutral version of events later on as quite obviously he knows better for me the last 5 paragraphs say it all
    Last edited by piwanoi; 09-06-2013 at 08:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    The UK is the US's Allies and has been since World war one
    Pakistan has not then? Your history and understanding of the Muslim brigades in WW2 is not very good at all. They were legendary, those boys who you would terms pakis now.

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    documented hatred of America!
    I don't hate America. What a daft thing to say.

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    factless trips into total fantasy land
    What are you talking about?

    All I am asking is how come pakistan should have their sovereign territory invaded and their citizens murdered by "friendly force" the USA, when, in the UK, there are the same type of people that the US can not get into court, so why do you not endorse drone strikes there? What is the difference (now that I have reminded you that those "pakis" are allies and were allies in ww1 and the Muslim brigades in ww1 were allies as well).

    Just admit it Piwi - it is acceptable to you because they are dark skinned muslims in paki land. that is the only difference, no?


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    Heh Piwi - check this out.


    Prior to the September 11 attacks in 2001, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were key supporters of the Taliban in Afghanistan,
    So you support drones bombing mission on Saudi then? I wonder how many bombs the US has dropped on Saudi. I wonder why they haven't dropped any?

    This is fun though - you are right, pakistan is not an official ally, they are called a Major Non Nato Ally along with Australia, egypt, japan, south korea and....wait for it....Israel.

    So, as Israel has a history of blowing up US navy ships, they are fair target as well for US drone bombs? How about some pakis in Melbourne? They fair game?

    What is different between Israel and Pakistan? Israel gets shit loads more US dough in much more favourable conditions than Pakistan does.

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    ^ Invading Pakistani sovereign territory my arse, as stated previously the Americans and the Pakistani Government and the Military are in this together ,of course they shout blue murder in public to impress the masses ,however the truth is quite different all it is is window dressing as the article shows http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-strikes.html the link says it all here is another from the BBC were the yanks have just killed another 7 by drone strikes http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22820208 an excerpt from the news item says this "the drone issue is hugely controversial in Pakistan were parts of the Government and Military have often been accused of ignoring or even condoning some of the drone strikes" they are in this together up to their necks ,so please Psuedo spare the crap about Pakistan being "invaded"
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    I never said they were being invaded as the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pakistan are a nuclear power so that will never happen. They are having their airspace invaded though; there is a difference.

    You mention earlier that the leaders are corrupt, so are you insinuating that they are being paid graft money by the US to allow them to kill pakis?

    So if the Pakistan government said "stop doing it" should the US stop then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    I never said they were being invaded as the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pakistan are a nuclear power so that will never happen. They are having their airspace invaded though; there is a difference.

    You mention earlier that the leaders are corrupt, so are you insinuating that they are being paid graft money by the US to allow them to kill pakis?

    So if the Pakistan government said "stop doing it" should the US stop then?
    No the articles I have posted said they were corrupt, Obviously as per usual you haven't read the links as you know better , the Paki Civil and Military elite are getting huge rake offs from the yanks why should they ask them to stop?, FFS get real

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    absolutes are fraught with danger .................
    So is thinking you know better than others without a scrap of evidence on your behalf to prove them wrong and you are right
    Correct .

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    Psuedo Why not read the links in my posts 133 and 136 and then write they are both a load of bollocks, and you can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
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    absolutes are fraught with danger .................
    So is thinking you know better than others without a scrap of evidence on your behalf to prove them wrong and you are right
    Correct .
    Of course Mid I was referring to you, being you have produced jack shit to prove my links incorrect especially the ones in 133 and 136

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    No the articles I have posted said they were corrupt, Obviously as per usual you haven't read the links as you know better , the Paki Civil and Military elite are getting huge rake offs from the yanks why should they ask them to stop?, FFS get real
    So if the Pakistan government said "stop doing it" , in your opinion, should the US stop then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    No the articles I have posted said they were corrupt, Obviously as per usual you haven't read the links as you know better , the Paki Civil and Military elite are getting huge rake offs from the yanks why should they ask them to stop?, FFS get real
    So if the Pakistan government said "stop doing it" , in your opinion, should the US stop then?
    If If If, The Paki's have had plenty of chances and loads of time even before Obomber to ask them to stop, but they won't as there is too much corruption money involved ,IF they take it to the UN and get a directive for the Yanks to stop ,then and only then will I give my opinion (for what its worth) , the links say it all ,they are up to the necks in this together , a sort of marriage of convenience with which IMHO there will never be a divorce

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    This does just come down to the fact in your eyes that they are "pakis" then and that is the main reason why they need killing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    This does just come down to the fact in your eyes that they are "pakis" then and that is the main reason why they need killing?
    Your usual load of factless bilge, were have I ever wrote that Paki's need murdering or even Muslims? ,these Islamic radical's who are nothing but murdering scum not only of Infidels but of their own fellow Muslims too which has been proved by none other than the UN who plainly state that 75% of the Muslim civilians killed in Afghanistan are at the Talibans hands ,and why you have to write complete and total fabrications as to just what I think or have previously written is a sure sign of your mental instability .

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    So Piwi - answer a fricking question for once then.

    If the pakistan government said"stop it, you bastards, stop flying into our airspace and launching missiles against our people on the basis that someone, for a pocket full of cash, dobbed someone in" would you condone the US continuing with their actions.

    Pretty straight forward. No conspiracy, no skewing of "facts". Just a straight forward opinion question to see if you are actually able to give you opinion on anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    So Piwi - answer a fricking question for once then.

    If the pakistan government said"stop it, you bastards, stop flying into our airspace and launching missiles against our people on the basis that someone, for a pocket full of cash, dobbed someone in" would you condone the US continuing with their actions.

    Pretty straight forward. No conspiracy, no skewing of "facts". Just a straight forward opinion question to see if you are actually able to give you opinion on anything.

    Anything other than a direct plea to the UN for the Americans to stop the bombs or rockets landing on Pakistani soil and killing their citizens, is totally meaningless , as it could be all part of the ploy to protest and pacify the Pakistani populace and mugs like you , whilst really doing nothing ,this is why I said if they make a genuine plea to the UN to Issue a directive to the Americans to cease the bombings not just defiling their airspace as you put it ,then and only then will I give an opinion ,as I know then for sure its genuine and not a load of bollocks

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    In your Reuters link ,it plainly says that the final report will not be presented to the UN general assembly until OCT so I'll wait for the final decision which of course should be legal and binding ,so by that, Pakistan nor The Yanks have not been issued anything as yet ,so I'll wait until OCT when I read the outcome and see the evidence before voicing my opinion ,one interesting statement in your link comes from State dept Spokeswomen Victoria Nuland who goes on to say"we have a strong ongoing counter terrorism dialogue with Pakistan and that will continue " all your link actually shows is that its all in the air (forgive the pun) until OCT when all the relevant facts will be presented by both sides to the UN general Assembly , until then it would appear that according to Nuland it will be "business" as usual

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    "Pakistan has called on the US to cease its campaign immediately," he continued, adding that as a matter of international law, the US drone operations involve "the use of force on the territory of another State without its consent and is therefore a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty."
    Hmmm. So Pakistan tells the US to stop. It tells the UN to tell the US to stop, but because it is only Pakistan telling them to stop, you think it is OK for the merkins to continue killing civilians by bombing them, whilst flying into their airspace, unauthorised?

    now I reckon the Pakis should patrol with fighters in the region, and shoot any drones out of the air. Would you agree that they are justified in doing this and if they want to, it is their prerogative?

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