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    Britain toughens up Immigration rules.

    Queen's Speech: Immigration rules 'to be tougher'



    The government is expected to announce tougher immigration rules as part of its programme for the next year.

    The Queen's Speech will include a parliamentary bill aimed at making it easier to deport foreign criminals and those who enter the UK illegally.

    Other bills will cap social care costs in England and introduce a single state pension of £144 a week.

    Prime Minister David Cameron will then set out the proposals in detail in the Commons, beginning at 14:30 BST.

    Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt told the BBC while the government would not be publishing the full set of 15 bills, it would set out the main problems it wanted to address.

    'Clamping down' After the government's repeated setbacks in its efforts to deport the radical cleric Abu Qatada, an immigration bill will be announced, allowing foreign criminals to be deported more easily, as well as people who are in the UK illegally.
    If passed, it would also ensure illegal immigrants cannot get driving licences, and change the rules so private landlords have to check their tenants' immigration status.

    Businesses that use illegal foreign labour would face bigger fines.
    The Queen, who speaks on behalf of the government during the ceremony, is expected to say: "We want to attract people who will add to our national life, and those who will not should be deterred."
    She will add that the bill "will further reform the immigration system by tightening immigration law, strengthening our enforcement powers and clamping down on those from overseas who abuse our public services".

    Mr Hunt told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the government wanted to tackle the abuse of the visa system and change the pull factors which bring people to this country, such as free healthcare.
    "If people who aren't entitled to free NHS care use the NHS, that's fine, as long as they pay for it," he said. "The pull factors are very important if we are to deter people from coming here in the first place."

    The immigration bill's publication comes the week after the success of the UK Independence Party, which campaigns to cut net migration, in last week's local elections in England.

    The Queen's Speech, which was written before the local elections, will also put forward a bill to introduce a single weekly state pension of £144 per week, which will replace the current pension of £107 plus means-tested top-ups.



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    And this might be a more relevant part of the speech:

    New law in the UK could change pension rules for ‘Thai brides’




    Britain's Queen Elizabeth is set to announce a new law to address the problem of state pensions being paid to foreigners who have never lived in the country, the UK Telegraph reported.

    The legislation will affect the growing number of “Thai brides” who marry British nationals they have met online.

    While there is support for the new law, some quarters have also expressed concern because this could have serious repercussions for women who leave Britain and have children abroad.

    The report revealed that British taxpayers pay the pensions of some 220,000 people living outside the UK. Of this number, half have never set foot in British soil.

    Pensions can be as much as GBP3,500 a year and are paid out until death. This adds up to about GBP410 million a year. The rise in online romances and the growing number of Thai brides has contributed to a 17% increase in the number of British pensioners abroad receiving a married person’s pension between 2002 and 2012.

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    As far as Immigration goes ,far too late as the walls got breached decades ago ,and yet more will come flooding in in Jan when thanks to Tony B liar the Bulgarians and Romanians will be boarding the "gravy train"

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    Bit of token posturing I'm afraid nothing more

    The uks immigration prob is from within the eu which they can do nothing about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico the Fox View Post

    The rise in online romances and the growing number of Thai brides has contributed to a 17% increase in the number of British pensioners abroad receiving a married person’s pension between 2002 and 2012.
    So, it's not actually the Thai wives getting the money, just their husbands getting extra because they are claiming a married persons allowance ? This doesn't fit well with the bit:

    ...... state pensions being paid to foreigners who have never lived in the country.

    Pretty lame reporting.


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    What's that phrase about barn doors and horses having fucked off long ago?

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    It will go down well with the D Mail, Sun and telegraph readers. Let us see when anyone living outside the UK is stripped of their OAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    It will go down well with the D Mail, Sun and telegraph readers. Let us see when anyone living outside the UK is stripped of their OAP.
    You've forgot "Fox News", you can read that on the Internet too

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    It will go down well with the D Mail, Sun and telegraph readers. Let us see when anyone living outside the UK is stripped of their OAP.
    You've forgot "Fox News", you can read that on the Internet too

    You would know.

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    It should be easier for Brits to live abroad without being abused in relation to visas. I see no problem with tightening rules when foreign nations have visa, work, business and land ownership rules that make Brits run in circles just to stay with their wife and kids.

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    illegal immigrants cannot get driving licences,


    WTF they are illegal, their not going to bother with a licence.

    Insurance sir? O yes please and can I have a baby on board sticker too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore
    illegal immigrants cannot get driving licences,
    If they are illegal they shouldnt be here full stop

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    All in response to the massive inroads UKIP have made in recent months.

    They're like BNP Lite, only they hate the wops, dagos, frogs, squareheads, scandihooligans et al as well as darkies and pakis. ***


    (*** Note: Sarcasm alert).

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    Well since you don't have a 1200 mile border with Mexico, it appears that the Mexicans won't be invading the UK. That's the upside.

    Since you're a member of the EU, (UK) I suppose there really is no way to stop illegal immigration? That could be the reason for all those new non-English speaking neighbors. The upside is: Many of your new neighbors brought their own millions with them. Those that didn't, well sorry for that will do in today's world of P.C.

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    Britain tightens up on immigration

    Total ethnic British (English, Scots Welsh, N Irish) population in UK is aprox. 85.67 % of 63.2 million. All non-ethnics, including Euros make up the rest, (14.34 %)

    White British 50,366,497...85.67%

    White (other) 3,096,169......5.27%

    Indian 1,053,411 ................1.8%

    Pakistani 977,285............... 1.6%

    White Irish 691,232............. 1.2%

    Mixed race 677,117............ 1.2%

    Black Caribbean 565,876.... 1.0%

    Black African 485,277.......... 0.8%

    Bangladeshi 283,063........... 0.5%

    Other Asian 247,644............ 0.4%
    (Non Chinese)

    Chinese 247,403................. 0.4%

    Other 230,615..................... 0.4%

    Black (others) 97,585.......... 0.2%

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...gdom#Ethnicity

    Total non-ethnic British population is around the 15% mark or to put it lightly, three bob short of a quid.
    That's one in seven or so people you pass in the street in UK these days don't share the same cultural matrix as the average Brit.

    That's a lot.

    In some areas, ethnic enclaves have started to grow, a Kosovo situation is starting to appear and the Muslim population is the largest of these, where whole districts of once ethnic British have now become no-go areas for them as Muslims display increasingly anti-social tendencies towards any non-Muslim.

    That's a huge problem which if not dealt with immediately will become the focus of violence and major national disruption both socially and financially in the UK.
    Last edited by ENT; 10-05-2013 at 11:30 AM. Reason: Addition of info.

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    ^Not being picky, but where are the stat's on illegals in the UK?

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    I'd guess that there aren't any hard and fast stats on that, simply because they're illegal so "under the radar" so to speak.

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    ^ In "Merica," we have stats on illegals. Well sort of. They estimate 11,000,000. Probably nowhere near that number. More likely 18,000,000 and rising. We call it Guess-ti-mation, not an exact science , but it works for most.

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