Thread: Falklands referendum.

Hmm, if the Argies go to war again do you think they will still play in the Rugby Championship?

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Originally Posted by Necron99

Hmm, if the Argies go to war again do you think they will still play in the Rugby Championship?

Depends upon how well they get on with the other sheep lovers.

why can't the British return Las Malinas to the natives like they did with HK and Macau ?

The Falklands have messed up a little here. They should have gone for independence, become a tax haven, and shared the Oil wealth 50:50 with the Uk government. Then, when they are all multi millionaires they could sell the Island to Argentina and bugger off somewhere else.

Oh, and there is no appetite in Argentina for a war - only that stupid bitch clinging onto power for dear life tryng to drum up some support. As long as the UK refuses to bite back, it will all drift away again.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

can't the British return Las Malinas to the natives like they did with HK and Macau ?

Feeling a little educationally challenged are you?

1) Macau was not British.
2) HK was returned to China, but held for a few years as a Semi Autonomous Region.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

why can't the British return Las Malinas to the natives like they did with HK and Macau ?

Which natives?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

why can't the British return Las Malinas to the natives like they did with HK and Macau ?

What natives?

OOps, a bit late!!

Yeh, what natives?

I assume the Argentinians since they are making a legal claim to the place,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I assume the Argentinians since they are making a legal claim to the place,

because they have no legal claim.

well, we don't know that for sure

Originally Posted by Butterfly

why can't the British return Las Malinas to the natives like they did with HK and Macau ?

They don't want to because there is a slim chance that the uk can embarrass France on the world stage again by catching them trying to sell missiles to the Argies.

Originally Posted by Spin

trying to sell missiles to the Argies.

They didn't try and sell them, they did sell them. Then to add insult to injury, they advertised them as "battle proven" at the Farnborough Air Show late that year!!!

By the way the Argies call the islands Las Malvinas not Las Malinas so the are welcome to the latter but not the former :-D

There were never any Argentinans in the Falklands before the British arrived there. Patagonian indians, possibly visited in the past, but there's no evidence that they settled there.
The islands were unoccupied when the first British landed there.
Origins of European Settlement

Like much to do with the Falklands, the origins of European settlement begin with a controversy involving the English. England’s John Davis was probably the first European to see the islands, in 1592, when his ship was blown to them in a storm, but his report was not widely published in England due to politics. Claims that Magellan discovered the islands earlier have been convincingly rejected. A further Englishman, Richard Hawkins, claimed to have found the islands in 1594. The first incontrovertible sighting was by Holland’s Sebald de Weerdt in 1600. It took a further ninety years before the first known European landings, when another Englishman, John Strong, arrived in 1690, naming the ‘sound’ between the larger islands after a fellow Britain, Viscount Falkland. The name has since spread to the whole collection of islands.

Over the next fifty years people used the island for fresh water and scurvy negating plants; French sailors started to call them islands Malouines, which eventually evolved into Malvinas. England planned to explore the islands in 1749, but suspended their expedition, not because they ceded to Spanish claims to the islands as later suggested by Spain, but in order to temporarily avoid a dispute and secure more favourable trade agreements. In the end, European settlers arrived on January 31st 1764, when Frenchmen Louis-Antoine de Bougainville started a colony on East Falkland of ex French-Canadians.


British settlers landed on West Falkland on January 12 1765, unaware that France had already settled a different location. Spain purchased the French settlement in 1766 (formally accepted in 1767), and in the first recorded skirmish on the islands Spain forced the British off West Falkland in 1770. This situation lasted for a year, when control of the British settlement was handed back to Britain after both the threat of outright war between the two nations and a large discussion about who had sovereignty of the islands. Thanks to vague language, the deciding agreement allowed both to claim it. However, the British settlement was withdrawn in 1774 for purely economic reasons, and the East Falkland settlement lasted until 1811. Crucially, although Britain withdrew their citizens, they did not withdraw their claim of sovereignty.

South America enters the Frame

With no European colonies on the Falklands, just sealers who found the islands useful, the newly independent government in Buenos Aires claimed its own sovereignty over the islands, as heirs of the Spanish empire from which they had just become independent. A businessman called Vernet formed a private settlement in 1826 on the second attempt, having gained permission from both the Buenos Aires government and a British official. When Buenos Aires appointed a governor in 1829 Britain complained that they had no right. In 1831 a US ship, acting to avenge the arrest of US seal hunters in the area, who claimed a right to the islands as heirs of Britain, destroyed the settlement.

Thus, when Britain, worried about South America and US sealers, renewed their interest in 1833 and reactivated their dormant claim, there were only a few remaining settlers. Some left without violence, others decided to stay under the new government. The British renewed settlement, installing a civilian governor. By 1885 the settlement, based around the capital of Port Stanley, was nearing two thousand people with the main economic venture being sheep farming. However, little was invested into the island’s potential strategic importance or economic growth.
Europe and the Falkland Islands - Malvinas - The Falkland Islands

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I assume the Argentinians since they are making a legal claim to the place,

That makes no logical sense even by your own twisted standards.

so the Brits invaded another place they didn't own legally and call it their own ?

so it could be French or Spanish for all we know, right ?

apparently the Argentinians are making the claim, and we all know when the Brits are involved in an invasion, it's always dodgy or done illegaly

So true these days, as there always backing up the septics

Originally Posted by Butterfly

so the Brits invaded another place they didn't own legally and call it their own ?

so it could be French or Spanish for all we know, right ?

apparently the Argentinians are making the claim, and we all know when the Brits are involved in an invasion, it's always dodgy or done illegaly

Originally Posted by ENT

British settlers landed on West Falkland on January 12 1765, unaware that France had already settled a different location. Spain purchased the French settlement in 1766 (formally accepted in 1767), and in the first recorded skirmish on the islands Spain forced the British off West Falkland in 1770.

so basically, France or Spain could make the claim that it's their place too

maybe the best option would be for everyone to fuck off from that place, since nobody agree on the legality of it

Originally Posted by Butterfly

so the Brits invaded another place they didn't own legally and call it their own ?

so it could be French or Spanish for all we know, right ?

apparently the Argentinians are making the claim, and we all know when the Brits are involved in an invasion, it's always dodgy or done illegaly

It's a bit of a distortion of language to 'invade' an uninhabited island

Originally Posted by draco888

It's a bit of a distortion of language to 'invade' an uninhabited island

when the rats invade your empty basement, do you prefer to use the words settlement instead ? how sweet of you,

it's funny how British Zionists also started the "settlement" of empty lands in Palestine,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by ENT

British settlers landed on West Falkland on January 12 1765, unaware that France had already settled a different location. Spain purchased the French settlement in 1766 (formally accepted in 1767), and in the first recorded skirmish on the islands Spain forced the British off West Falkland in 1770.

so basically, France or Spain could make the claim that it's their place too

maybe the best option would be for everyone to fuck off from that place, since nobody agree on the legality of it

Hardly. Spain could possibly lay claim to Argentina given they are all descended from dagos from there except the odd indigenous native and Welsh folk who laid most of their railways. But no one except the British maintained a significant presence in the Falklands in the past million years so, really, I think sovereignty is pretty well established even to silly continentals, dagos and daft septics.
France has little claim to anything except a need for self indulgence and an unlimited supply of suppositories.

About time the frogs gave up Guadeloupe though.

Originally Posted by thegent

About time the frogs gave up Guadeloupe though.

as soon as you leave the Malvinas