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    Israel shoots down Syrian aircraft near Golan Heights

    Israel shot down a Syrian fighter jet on Tuesday as it attempted to fly over the ceasefire line into the Israeli-occupied sector of the Golan Heights, army radio reported.
    "This Syrian aircraft, apparently a MiG-21 (fighter jet), which was approaching the Israeli side of the Golan, was shot down by a surface-to-air Patriot missile," the radio said.

    The wreckage of the aircraft landed on the Syrian-controlled side of the strategic plateau, it added.

    BREAKING: Israel downs Syria warplane on Golan Heights: Army radio - Region - World - Ahram Online

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    Ahh. That's why the US has started attacking Syria. Just part of a bigger operation. I wonder what the Arab members of the so-called "coalition" will think of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Ahh. That's why the US has started attacking Syria. Just part of a bigger operation. I wonder what the Arab members of the so-called "coalition" will think of that.
    Bugger all I would think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    The wreckage of the aircraft landed on the Syrian-controlled side of the strategic plateau, it added.
    Thats the point isnt it. If a jet is traveling at a high rate of speed with a clear path then it is better to shoot it down before it gets to its target right?


    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Ahh. That's why the US has started attacking Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    The wreckage of the aircraft landed on the Syrian-controlled side of the strategic plateau, it added.
    Thats the point isnt it. If a jet is traveling at a high rate of speed with a clear path then it is better to shoot it down before it gets to its target right?
    Feel sorry for the bloke if he was trying to defect.


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    So israel shoots down a plane in another country that was travelling at quite a rate and all of the debris falls into that country, and the whole world applauds israel.

    Muppets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    So israel shoots down a plane in another country that was travelling at quite a rate and all of the debris falls into that country, and the whole world applauds israel.

    Muppets.
    What the fuck are you on about?

    Who's applauding them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Ahh. That's why the US has started attacking Syria. Just part of a bigger operation. I wonder what the Arab members of the so-called "coalition" will think of that.
    To date, probably not much.
    As they've "allowed" a green light to these activities.


    The enemy of my enemy.

    Will all come back to haunt the principled parties [not Arab].

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    Poor Israel.. under attack yet again.

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    This area of the world is so screwed up, it would not surprise Me if they shot down a coalition plane from the joint Arab States, operating alongside the USAF
    What the Fck was a Syrian plane doing , flying so far south, when coalition Arab fighter aircraft where operating like two peas in a pod together to destroy IS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    What the Fck was a Syrian plane doing , flying so far south,
    Indeed. How dare a Syrian plane fly inside Syria. Utterly disgusting and crazy mad thing to do. Thank god Israel shot it out of the sky.

    Note the headline...why not the real headline which should be "Israel shoots down Syrian aircraft in Syria"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    So israel shoots down a plane in another country that was travelling at quite a rate and all of the debris falls into that country, and the whole world applauds israel.

    Muppets.
    You are the muppet. The plane had entered Israeli airspace. I am surprised the Israelis allowed it to get almost 1 km into Israel.

    I suggest you have a look at a map of Israel. It's about 100km from the Golan to Haifa, a major Israeli city. Major targets are within 5 minutes of flying time from the Golan Heights. A failure to strike down any aggressive aircraft as soon as it nears the border, has catastrophic consequences for Israel. In case you missed it, Israel has little buffer space to play with between Syria, a country which is still technically at war with Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    This area of the world is so screwed up, it would not surprise Me if they shot down a coalition plane from the joint Arab States, operating alongside the USAF
    What the Fck was a Syrian plane doing , flying so far south, when coalition Arab fighter aircraft where operating like two peas in a pod together to destroy IS.
    The arab countries restricted their activity mostly to Iraq and it was for show only. The tip off was the participation of Qatar, one of the financial supporters of ISIL. Most of the damage was done by tomahawks and cruise missiles launched by the USN.

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    I suggest you read the actual reports rather than the headlines.

    It's just another case of israel acting out like a spoilt brat. Bleating on about sovereignty. What about Syria's sovereignty? They are trying to fight western backed insurgents in one area who are there to bring about washingtons regime change, and at the same time, a coalition of evil is bombing the same group on their territory in another area. Israel itchy for more blood on their hands wanting to get in on the fight.

    Besides, the area where the plane was in was not in Israel, it was on Syrian territory that had been declared a "ceasefire zone" in 1974. The plane was bombing the western backed rebels in Al Qunaitra when it was shot down. One might assume that victim israel were helping out the western rebels who are doing them a favour in clearing out of the area a lot of Syrian forces ready for a trade mark victim israel land grab. As for you assertion that it might have threatened Haifa, that is the most bizarre thing you have written for a while.

    Anyway nothing to see here. Just another case of Victim Israel breaking another ceasefire agreement. Poor israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    So israel shoots down a plane in another country that was travelling at quite a rate and all of the debris falls into that country, and the whole world applauds israel.

    Muppets.
    Just another bullshit operation to gain support on the attack of Syria.

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    Like I said, the poor bloke was probably trying to defect. He wouldn't be the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    I suggest you read the actual reports rather than the headlines.

    It's just another case of israel acting out like a spoilt brat. Bleating on about sovereignty. What about Syria's sovereignty? They are trying to fight western backed insurgents in one area who are there to bring about washingtons regime change, and at the same time, a coalition of evil is bombing the same group on their territory in another area. Israel itchy for more blood on their hands wanting to get in on the fight.

    Besides, the area where the plane was in was not in Israel, it was on Syrian territory that had been declared a "ceasefire zone" in 1974. The plane was bombing the western backed rebels in Al Qunaitra when it was shot down. One might assume that victim israel were helping out the western rebels who are doing them a favour in clearing out of the area a lot of Syrian forces ready for a trade mark victim israel land grab. As for you assertion that it might have threatened Haifa, that is the most bizarre thing you have written for a while.

    Anyway nothing to see here. Just another case of Victim Israel breaking another ceasefire agreement. Poor israel.
    I did read the reports. Did you? Do you know the background?
    - The rebel forces in the Golan area control over 80% of the Syrian border. In the past month there has been tank fire directed at Israel. Mortars have been fired from the Syrian side of the border. There have been multiple attempts to infiltrate the border. Sometimes the local Druze kill the outsiders, and sometimes the Israelis get them when they try to cross the border.
    - The Syrian rebels are Nusra affiliated and they are the enemies of the local Druze. The Druze are the principal residents in the Golan in both the Israeli and Syrian zones. The Golan Druze are Assad supporters and the Israeli zone Druze have been pressuring Israel to allow safe passage of the Syrian Druze into Israel should the situation deteriorate. Nusra has threatened to kill any refugees moving towards Israel.
    - The rebels have already attacked the UNDOF peacekeepers who have been deployed for over 30 years, taking hostages. (Remember that? Remember how they threatened to kill the UNDOF personnel who were unable to escape to safety in Israel?)
    - The Syrian jet entered the Israeli zone, did it not?

    How can you blame Israel for taking appropriate defensive measures. If an unidentified hostile aircraft penetrated Russian or Iranian airspace, what do you think the reaction would be? Israel wants no part of the conflict and has stayed out of it. In the middle east, it is a normal activity for people to go on suicide missions. They do it when they strap on explosive vests and detonate at the local market or mosque. Why then should the Israelis not be appropriately cautious.

    Know what else I have seen? No one of any substance in the arab world is protesting or complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Just another bullshit operation to gain support on the attack of Syria.
    Not likely. It was an isolated event. The Israelis simply shot down a Syrian jet that crossed the border line. That's what happens when 2 countries are still legally at war. The Syrians had reached a tentative peace agreement in 2000, but then walked away from it.

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    I hope the Syrians are able to shoot down the next Israeli plane that flies over Syrian airspace (but I won't hold my breath).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I hope the Syrians are able to shoot down the next Israeli plane that flies over Syrian airspace (but I won't hold my breath).
    Isn't that sweet. So are you a supporter of Assad or of ISIL then?
    Considering that a state of war is still in effect between the two countries, it is probable that there will be some unfortunate incidents.
    Have you considered joining your fellow Israeli hates over on the Golan border? I am sure they will gladly welcome you, provided you accept their religion and give up the booze. In the interim, I suggest you read the Book of Revelations. It may help you with your conundrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I hope the Syrians are able to shoot down the next Israeli plane that flies over Syrian airspace (but I won't hold my breath).
    Isn't that sweet. So are you a supporter of Assad or of ISIL then?
    You seem to have misinterpreted my post. All I said was I hope the Syrians shoot down the next Israeli plane that flies over Syrian airspace - as several have done before. I will be as nonchalant about it as you appear to be about the Syrian plane. As you said, that's what happens when 2 countries are still legally at war. There will be some unfortunate incidents. No big deal. But what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    Have you considered joining your fellow Israeli hates over on the Golan border?
    Why on earth do you think I'm an Israeli hater? Cut back on the maple syrup, Lone Star beer and Texas tea! It has addled your brain.

    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    I suggest you read the Book of Revelations.
    Do you believe it yourself?

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    It may help you with your conundrum.
    I don't have a conundrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    The wreckage of the aircraft landed on the Syrian-controlled side of the strategic plateau
    So, a Syrian plane in Syria was shot down.

    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1
    The Israelis simply shot down a Syrian jet that crossed the border line.
    Is that true?

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    Read the bloody article, that's why I posted the link.

    "A warplane that penetrated Israeli territory was successfully shot down a short while ago by the air defence systems along the Syrian border," a military statement said, without giving further details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Read the bloody article
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    a military statement said
    An Israeli military statement...

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    The wreckage of the aircraft landed on the Syrian-controlled side of the strategic plateau
    Says more than the Israeli military statement to me; I prefer facts to propaganda.

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    Why would it surprise you that he probably ran for home when he came under fire?

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