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    Why Obama picked Hagel

    More conspiracy!

    In the first months of the Obama presidency in 2009, Chuck Hagel, who had just finished two terms as a U.S. senator, went to the White House to visit with the friend he had made during the four years they overlapped in the Senate.

    So, President Obama asked, what do you think about foreign policy and defense issues?

    According to an account that Hagel later gave, and is reported here for the first time, he told Obama: “We are at a time where there is a new world order. We don’t control it. You must question everything, every assumption, everything they” — the military and diplomats — “tell you. Any assumption 10 years old is out of date. You need to question our role. You need to question the military. You need to question what are we using the military for.

    “Afghanistan will be defining for your presidency in the first term,” Hagel also said, according to his own account, “perhaps even for a second term.” The key was not to get “bogged down.”

    Bob Woodward: Why Obama picked Hagel for defense secretary - The Washington Post
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    Obama picked Hagel because the both of them are anti-Israel, snot-nosed, know-nothing Mofos. New world order, heh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    “We are at a time where there is a new world order. We don’t control it. You must question everything, every assumption, everything they” — the military and diplomats — “tell you. Any assumption 10 years old is out of date. You need to question our role. You need to question the military. You need to question what are we using the military for. “Afghanistan will be defining for your presidency in the first term,” Hagel also said, according to his own account, “perhaps even for a second term.” The key was not to get “bogged down.”
    considering how things have played out over the last few years, these comments seem fairly prescient.

    he's qualified for the position and there is every indication that he will be confirmed by the senate.

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    There is a well-funded effort by Hagel's enemies, mainly shadowy Israeli and neocon groups, aimed at senate democrats who they consider vulnerable to re-election. Hagel is not liked by defense hawks because they fear that Hagel will oppose Israel's efforts to use the US as its proxy to go to war with Iran. The neocons deceived us about going to war with Iraq, they will not succeed at it again.
    Hagel will be confirmed despite their efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The neocons deceived us about going to war with Iraq, they will not succeed at it again.
    You really think so? Not me. All we heard for decades from Germany to France to Jordan to Japan was how much of a threat Saddam was with his supposed stock of WMDs. That's what they get for going along with the rhetoric all those years.

    Me? Guilty as charged ... I bought it hook, line and sinker. Do I feel bad about it? Yeah, I suppose so. At least I admit it.

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