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    Girls forced to perform depraved acts for Asian gang

    (Well this thread should end up being a repeat of the thread on the last case like this)

    MEMBERS of an alleged sex gang threatened to kill a young victim — telling her: “You know what we do with pigs? Slit their throats,” a court heard yesterday.

    Nine men stand accused at the Old Bailey of charges including raping, torturing and pimping out six vulnerable underage girls who were plied with booze and drugs.

    They are said to have subjected the 11 to 15-year-olds to a “living hell” over eight years of abuse from 2004.

    Some girls allegedly endured sex attacks described as “perverted in the extreme”, which were said to have lasted days.

    And one gang member allegedly forced a victim to have a backstreet abortion at just 13.

    The defendants, including two sets of brothers, yesterday faced 51 charges. The list was so long it took half an hour to read out.

    The court heard the alleged abuse took place in Oxford, where all but one of the men on trial lived and worked.

    One victim was driven to woods at night after lying to gang members in a bid to escape abuse, the court heard.

    Prosecutor Noel Lucas QC said: “They threatened her, saying, ‘You know what we do with pigs? Slit their throats’.

    “Another car then turned up containing four other men. They threatened to cut her head off.”

    The girl was told she would only be spared if she performed sex acts, it was said. She and other victims were plied with alcohol plus cannabis, cocaine and even heroin so they couldn’t escape, it was claimed.

    Some were used as prostitutes and the gang took the cash, it was said. Victims were told they and their families would be targeted if they fled.

    Mr Lucas told jurors: “The depravity of what was done to the complainants was extreme.

    “Much of what the girls were forced to endure was perverted in the extreme.”
    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, deny charges including rape, arranging child prostitution and sexual assault.

    The trial, which is expected to last three months, continues.


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    BTW. These guys were actually arrested and charged with those offences last year. Since then most of them have been out on bail. Lucky they didn't commit a serious UK offence like putting plastics in the paper-disposal bin, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27
    Asian sex gang ? Islamic extremist sex gang sounds more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaggersback View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27
    Asian sex gang ? Islamic guys who can't get laid in normal society because they have been brainwashed by a religion which has outdated and ancient perceptions of sex and the treatment of women
    There fixed that for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
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    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27
    Asian sex gang ? Islamic guys who can't get laid in normal society because they have been brainwashed by a religion which has outdated and ancient perceptions of sex and the treatment of women
    There fixed that for you?
    Change religion to culture and you have it about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    BTW. These guys were actually arrested and charged with those offences last year. Since then most of them have been out on bail. Lucky they didn't commit a serious UK offence like putting plastics in the paper-disposal bin, eh.

    whilst they may well have been on bail before the case started, if you look at this reporting of their charges being read to them back in sepetember, they were all remanded by the judge. I do find the idea that people on such serious charges, who have roots outside the country and are therefore a flight risk would be allowed bail at all very disappointing, if that were the case.

    I was listening to an interview with a actress and rapper from afganhistan talking about her life in pakistan and iran. It does lead one to be believe that in this region of the world there are a very large number of people who regard going out, kidnapping a girl and raping her is as socially acceptable as going out to the pub on a Friday night is to us.

    Now personally if their parents and relatives felt that these were perfectly acceptable cultural values to teach their children, they really should have stayed somewhere where they really where. Clearly there is a need for some serious deterrent sentencing to make the point that this is the UK not Pakistan.
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    Fuckers should never ever see the light of day again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, deny charges including rape, arranging child prostitution and sexual assault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    ‘You know what we do with pigs? Slit their throats’.
    Yep, slit their throats.

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    Before people start getting all Daily Mail about this.

    Be mindful that the red-top media hate campaign against immigrants percolates through to ALL migrants.

    That means that when any of us try to take a Thai to the UK, whether for a holiday or permanently, it is expensive, difficult to accomplish, and the locals are often conditioned against Asians - not just because of occurences like this - but because of the way people react to such stories more broadly - incapable of differentiation.

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    'Asian'


    Bilal Ahmed, 26
    Shares his name with a nice Australian contemporary.

    The rapists, Australian-born, Lebanese Muslims, roamed Sydney hunting for non-Muslim teenage girls they saw as "Aussie sluts".

    Ms C was 18 when she was raped 25 times by up to 14 men, including the notorious Skaf brothers - Bilal, then 18, and Mohammed, 17

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    Interesting to see that the Australian media report such attackers as Lebanese Muslims. But the UK as 'Asians'. I would presume without looking at the case that they are Pakistani Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Now personally if their parents and relatives felt that these were perfectly acceptable cultural values to teach their children, they really should have stayed somewhere where they really where.

    Clearly there is a need for some serious deterrent sentencing to make the point that this is the UK not Pakistan.
    Surely there is more a responsibility of UK parents to teach their daughters to grow up sensibly. At 11-15 these girls can get the message.

    They aren't reading 'Jackie' any more Hazz. They're often sexting, sending topless photos of themselves to boys, drinking like fishes, and looking at hardcore porn online.

    It's the girls that are being harmed, so it is more imperative that the girls' parents are proactive. As for the boys' parents, well, you can preach to them, but it isn't the boys who derive the most damage usually.

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    I prefer to call them evil scumbags myself. Pointing out that they're "foreign" is just perpetuating the myth that evil is innate to certain types and not a personal choice. (I admit some cultures seem to actively encourage what I consider evil but I'm pretty sure it's not compulsory). If they committed these crimes then they're evil fuckers, asians or not. BTW, the people that tolerate these crimes are also eveil scumbags (referring to cops, proests, comminity leaders, etc) but evil is not derived from your ancestry or the continent or country you were born in. Evil is a choice.
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    Well moog I guess one can blame the victim for tempting the perpetrator, but that's not a philosophy I subscribe to. given that there will always be vunerable people and perpetrators tend to go looking for the vulnerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Well moog I guess one can blame the victim for tempting the perpetrator, but that's not a philosophy I subscribe to. given that there will always be vunerable people and perpetrators tend to go looking for the vulnerable.
    Read my post. You're twisting my words.

    They wouldn't be so vulnerable if the girl's parents took more of a parental interest. You protect your own kids, you don't rely on other parents to do the job with theirs, if it's your infants that are going to get hurt (or shagged up the arse)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, deny charges including rape, arranging child prostitution and sexual assault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    ‘You know what we do with pigs? Slit their throats’.
    Yep, slit their throats.
    Funny.... usually they bleat on about how they don't touch pigs.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    If they committed these crimes then they're evil fuckers, asians or not. BTW, the people that tolerate these crimes are also eveil scumbags (referring to cops, proests, comminity leaders, etc) but evil is not derived from your ancestry or the continent or country you were born in. Evil is a choice.
    One could argue that the morals of such are often nurtured in one's society and culture.

    Such as corruption in Thailand, not genetic of course, but subconsciously nurtured as not unmoral in one's social and cultural environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Yeah I agree Moog it all boils down to parental up bringing and the girls themselves as to why they are being raped ,its the same in Norway too I'm afraid ,these parents undoubtedly have a lot to answer to for their kids ordeals at the hands of Islamic rapists :rolleyes
    Instead of being facetious. How about the parents impress on their daughters.

    'Be vigilant of Islamic men'

    Alternatively they could say nothing, as they themselves are spending all night online on social media, drinking cheap cider and watching Magaluf Weekenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Yeah I agree Moog it all boils down to parental up bringing and the girls themselves as to why they are being raped ,its the same in Norway too I'm afraid ,these parents undoubtedly have a lot to answer to for their kids ordeals at the hands of Islamic rapists :rolleyes
    Instead of being facetious. How about the parents impress on their daughters.

    'Be vigilant of Islamic men'

    Alternatively they could say nothing, as they themselves are spending all night online on social media, drinking cheap cider and watching Magaluf Weekenders.
    Don't you think you are tarring all the unfortunate young ladys with the same brush somewhat! with that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Since then most of them have been out on bail.
    maybe the authorities are hoping they will bugger off and not need to be supported in jail

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Yeah I agree Moog it all boils down to parental up bringing and the girls themselves as to why they are being raped ,its the same in Norway too I'm afraid ,these parents undoubtedly have a lot to answer to for their kids ordeals at the hands of Islamic rapists :rolleyes
    Instead of being facetious. How about the parents impress on their daughters.

    'Be vigilant of Islamic men'

    Alternatively they could say nothing, as they themselves are spending all night online on social media, drinking cheap cider and watching Magaluf Weekenders.
    Don't you think you are tarring all the unfortunate young ladys with the same brush somewhat! with that one
    Intention is to critique the parents, not the unfortunate girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Anjum Dogar, 30, brother Akhtar, 32, Kamar Jamil, 27, Mohammed Karrar, 38, his brother Bassam, 33, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Bilal Ahmed, 26, and Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, deny charges including rape, arranging child prostitution and sexual assault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    ‘You know what we do with pigs? Slit their throats’.
    Yep, slit their throats.
    Not PC enough for the U.K.

    How about a mild custodial sentance then on release , free rehousing elseware and name changes to protect their human rights , plus of course unemployent and housing benifit etc since if they were to get employment their true identities might slip out and they would be at risk from vigilantes bent on doing them violence.

    The above harsh treatment would teach them a salutory lesson.
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    I wonder when the police went to arrest them, they had to take off there shoes before entering there home, and i surely hope they didn't disturb there prayers, as the police themselves could be up on charges.

    theres been a few off these stories making the rounds in the UK lately. if i remember one was related to a taxi company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairman Mao View Post
    Each copy of The Daily Mail must come with the pages already stuck together.
    The Daily Mail pretends it wants to protect kids, but it just loves printing salacious stories, (with photos)

    Try searching its site with the search terms,.......'She's all grown up'

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