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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    I have been reading other peoples posts all along in the hope of seeing positive independent evidence that discredits mine, I am still waiting
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    as I consider I have won the debate
    no, it seems that you cannot read

    we have agreed with your statement that jobs are disappearing, no-one has disputed that

    if that was your idea of a debate, I feel sorry for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
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    If it wasn't for socialism fucking up the world, we might be there by now.
    Thatcher and Reagan were Socialists!!?



    OMG!! Papa Bush never told us!!!
    It all went slowly down hill after the 60's. Thatcher and Reagan slowed it down but didn't turn it around. They spent money that they shouldn't have.

    Now its game over. The west won't be able to afford socialism after the coming currency crisis. I cant wait.
    I cant fucking wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    Local kids with Uni degrees are working in chain stores packing shelves.
    that is good experience for them, teach them that just because they have a bit of paper saying they went to some redbrick establishment they do not automatically get some high flying job

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    The west won't be able to afford socialism after the coming currency crisis.
    and they certainly cannot afford capitalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
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    The west won't be able to afford socialism after the coming currency crisis.
    and they certainly cannot afford capitalism
    That's all there will be left is capitalism. Just like after WW2.

    Crony capitalism mixed with socialism is not capitalism.

    Price fixing is not capitalism. The whole economy over the last 30 years is based on price fixing. Hardly capitalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
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    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    Yeah if thats a success I don't wanna see a failure!

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    I'd like to think he's just trolling, the truth is far more disturbing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
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    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    They had a huge housing bubble (miss-allocation of capital).

    Spain could either have a recession to correct the imbalances which they are doing. Or they can print money and pretend nothing is wrong like the USA.

    But there is one problem with that ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    Yeah if thats a success I don't wanna see a failure!
    Did I say it was success ?

    The boom was the problem. The recession is the inevitable correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    I'd like to think he's just trolling, the truth is far more disturbing..
    I read this morning that Greeces economy is going from strength to strength ,mind you Socals graph confirms that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
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    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    They had a huge housing bubble (miss-allocation of capital).

    Spain could either have a recession to correct the imbalances which they are doing. Or they can print money and pretend nothing is wrong like the USA.

    But there is one problem with that ^
    All these links ,Video's and graphs are very annoying ,They should be banned post haste

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
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    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    Yeah if thats a success I don't wanna see a failure!
    Did I say it was success ?

    The boom was the problem. The recession is the inevitable correction.
    Yeah that reads about right ,now why did'nt I think of that , A certain highly successful Socialist Chancellor / PM was very fond of that phrase "boom and bust" as I recall, another one was "prudent spending"
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    I'd like to think he's just trolling, the truth is far more disturbing..
    I read this morning that Greeces economy is going from strength to strength ,mind you Socals graph confirms that too
    Must be too much technology in Greece then..

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Spain recorded its first current account surplus since joining the EU months ago.
    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    Yeah if thats a success I don't wanna see a failure!
    Did I say it was success ?

    The boom was the problem. The recession is the inevitable correction.
    Yeah that reads about right ,now why did'nt I think of that , A certain highly successful Socialist Chancellor / PM was very fond of that phrase "boom and bust" as I recall, another one was "prudent spending"
    Yeah. There must have been a crash in technology at some point to drive employment up back then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
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    Spain joined the EU in 1986 and has a 26% unemployment rate, the second highest in Europe, youth unemployment is over 50%.
    Yeah if thats a success I don't wanna see a failure!
    Did I say it was success ?

    The boom was the problem. The recession is the inevitable correction.
    Yeah that reads about right ,now why did'nt I think of that , A certain highly successful Socialist Chancellor / PM was very fond of that phrase "boom and bust" as I recall, another one was "prudent spending"
    Yeah. There must have been a crash in technology at some point to drive employment up back then.

    Maybe, but we both know it was a change from Labour to the Torys
    Unemployment Rate - Last Ten Years | MacroTrends
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Yeah if thats a success I don't wanna see a failure!
    Did I say it was success ?

    The boom was the problem. The recession is the inevitable correction.
    Yeah that reads about right ,now why did'nt I think of that , A certain highly successful Socialist Chancellor / PM was very fond of that phrase "boom and bust" as I recall, another one was "prudent spending"
    Yeah. There must have been a crash in technology at some point to drive employment up back then.

    Maybe, but we both know it was a change from Labour to the Torys
    Unemployment Rate - Last Ten Years | MacroTrends
    ???? This has everything to do with technology and nothing to do with politics.

    There was less technology back then and that is why there was more employment.

    Im a Canadian... I don't know or care what the fuck a "tory" is. Is that your dogs name ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post
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    Did I say it was success ?

    The boom was the problem. The recession is the inevitable correction.
    Yeah that reads about right ,now why did'nt I think of that , A certain highly successful Socialist Chancellor / PM was very fond of that phrase "boom and bust" as I recall, another one was "prudent spending"
    Yeah. There must have been a crash in technology at some point to drive employment up back then.

    Maybe, but we both know it was a change from Labour to the Torys
    Unemployment Rate - Last Ten Years | MacroTrends
    ???? This has everything to do with technology and nothing to do with politics.

    There was less technology back then and that is why there was more employment.

    Im a Canadian... I don't know or care what the fuck a "tory" is. Is that your dogs name ?
    Maggie thatcher was a Tory and I suppose her Republican opposite Reagan could well have been thought of as one too, for sure they was'nt Socialists eh , BTW and thanks for confirming that technology causes more unemployment which is EXACTLY what I have writing all along ,you've just hung yourself with your own noose ,earlier you said technology creates jobs ,now you say there was more jobs back then when they had less technology and I find it rather strange when you say politics have nothing to do with unemployment but blame all the worlds problems on Socialism , FFS, get a grip
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    I have been reading other peoples posts all along in the hope of seeing positive independent evidence that discredits mine, I am still waiting
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    as I consider I have won the debate
    no, it seems that you cannot read

    we have agreed with your statement that jobs are disappearing, no-one has disputed that

    if that was your idea of a debate, I feel sorry for you
    Nice bit of editing out of the full content of just why I said I considered I had won the debate , so typical of the left ,to omit certain phrases, so as to cast some one who has a different point of view in a bad light, I really feel sorry for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
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    The west won't be able to afford socialism after the coming currency crisis.
    and they certainly cannot afford capitalism
    Yeah gotta admit you are correct ,I mean lets have it right since China ditched Mao's Socialist dream world and adopted full blown capitalism in all but name, they have lurched from crisis to crisis , word is that they are seriously thinking of going back to the tried and tested successful past of good old Chairman Mao! and when we used to see them strung out on barbed wire with bullets holes in their backs in Germany they was alway,s fleeing from the evil capitalistic West to get into East Germanys socialist utopia and of course thats why the built the wall which was guarded 24 hours a day ,with the sole purpose of keeping those capitalistic wankers out of the East
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    I have been reading other peoples posts all along in the hope of seeing positive independent evidence that discredits mine, I am still waiting
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    as I consider I have won the debate
    no, it seems that you cannot read

    we have agreed with your statement that jobs are disappearing, no-one has disputed that

    if that was your idea of a debate, I feel sorry for you
    Nice bit of editing out of the full content of just why I said I considered I had won the debate , so typical of the left ,to omit certain phrases, so as to cast some one who has a different point of view in a bad light, I really feel sorry for you!
    nothing left out that wasn't rubbish or inconsquential

    unless you can quote why


    and your dismissive phrase "typical of the left" hardly applies to me, but that type of thing is typical of self-serving rightist believers
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Over and out
    I have reported your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
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    I have been reading other peoples posts all along in the hope of seeing positive independent evidence that discredits mine, I am still waiting
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    as I consider I have won the debate
    no, it seems that you cannot read

    we have agreed with your statement that jobs are disappearing, no-one has disputed that

    if that was your idea of a debate, I feel sorry for you
    Nice bit of editing out of the full content of just why I said I considered I had won the debate , so typical of the left ,to omit certain phrases, so as to cast some one who has a different point of view in a bad light, I really feel sorry for you!
    nothing left out that wasn't rubbish or inconsquential

    unless you can quote why


    and your dismissive phrase "typical of the left" hardly applies to me, but that type of thing is typical of self-serving rightist believers
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Over and out
    Inconsequential ? according to you maybe ,I do not like being referred to as "Gutter road kill " my post#151 , in my view once some one resorts to personal name calling in a debate then they have lost simply cos they have nothing positive to say about the matter. why not report this post too? ,it would appear you are quite adroit at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
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    I have been reading other peoples posts all along in the hope of seeing positive independent evidence that discredits mine, I am still waiting
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    as I consider I have won the debate
    no, it seems that you cannot read

    we have agreed with your statement that jobs are disappearing, no-one has disputed that

    if that was your idea of a debate, I feel sorry for you
    Nice bit of editing out of the full content of just why I said I considered I had won the debate , so typical of the left ,to omit certain phrases, so as to cast some one who has a different point of view in a bad light, I really feel sorry for you!
    nothing left out that wasn't rubbish or inconsquential

    unless you can quote why


    and your dismissive phrase "typical of the left" hardly applies to me, but that type of thing is typical of self-serving rightist believers
    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi
    Over and out
    In the over and out quote I was referring to the other member as it was the first time as I can recall I had seen a post from him in the debate (Norton 236),and even if I was referring to myself and changed my mind and carried on with the debate , is that against forum rules too and another one for a report? you really are suspect under return fire ain't you
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