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    Japan won't go a'whaling this year, can't afford it.

    Japan set to suspend whale hunt


    Thu, 27 Sep 2012


    Japan could suspend its annual Antarctic whale hunt because the ageing flagship of its fleet needs urgent repair work.
    The Fisheries Agency of Japan, which oversees the country's whaling programme, is seeking government funds to carry out extensive repairs and a refit of its main factory processing ship, Japan's Asahi newspaper reported.

    The work on the Nisshin Maru could take several months, and the Antarctic whale hunt could not take place without it.
    It would be the first time in 25 years that Japan would not engage in the annual wale hunt in the Southern Ocean, which usually begins in November or December.
    The 18,000 tonne Nisshin Maru has been on every one of Japan's Antarctic whale hunts which began a quarter of a century ago. Japan says the hunt is carried out for scientific research.

    It has been one of the prime targets of Sea Shepherd activists, who last month vowed they would not allow Japan to kill a single whale this year.
    The Fisheries Agency has refused to confirm Asahi's report but told Australia's ABC News the ship was in need of repairs, the extent of which would be decided at a meeting later this week.

    Greenpeace Japan executive director Junichi Sato responded to the report with a renewed call for an end to government subsides for Japan's whaling programme.
    "This is a unique moment for Japan to back away from the international disgrace its whaling programme causes without losing face.

    "Huge sums of money are needed to upgrade the Nisshin Maru and bail out the industry from massive debt.
    "We are repeating our demand that the government end subsidies for whaling. We simply do not have the money, and the loss making whaling industry does not have the demand to merit even one more yen."

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    A victory for Greenpeace!

    Last year's whaling programme by Japan was cut short through the efforts of the anti- whaling activists, and if the pressure is kept up it's unlikely to resume again.

    Protecting cetaceans is a prime target in international efforts to maintain or at least encourage a balanced eco-system in our oceans.

    The world's waters are the great repository of global pollution, all our polluted waterways end in the sea causing the extinction of many species of marine animals and plants, all needed for a sustainable eco-system on which all life depends.

    A cessation of whaling will allow further research into the relationship between whales, krill and plankton and how they are affected by both global warming and the destructive effects of whaling and pollution.

    Experiments are being conducted in the Southern Ocean with seeding of iron compounds into the seas and observing how plankton and algae thrive in an iron rich environment.

    Safe-guarding the whales in this delicate balance of Antarctic bio-diversity will allow the ongoing cycle of the whales' feeding and migration to continue uninterrupted, and results from further studies may give insights into how whales encourage krill and plankton growth in Antarctica. The knock on effect of protecting whales is likely to have a positive benefit on the proliferation of algal growth, which is the a key nutrient in marine food chain, and also a huge CO2 sink, conerting CO2 into food.

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    The knock on effect of protecting whales is likely to have a positive benefit on the proliferation of algal growth, which is the a key nutrient in marine food chain, and also a huge CO2 sink, conerting CO2 into food.

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    I wish it were true, but I saw this in the Post this morning, and just googled it up here.
    Japan says whaling ship to be refitted

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    JAPAN'S Fisheries Agency says it plans to refit the ageing 8000-ton factory ship Nisshin Maru, which is used every year on its Antarctic whaling expeditions, in the hope of getting at least another decade's service out of it.

    The ship needs a major overhaul, the agency said on Wednesday, but stressed the refit will be finished in time for this season's hunt.
    "As research whaling is important, we'd like to conduct major repairs (on the ship) so that it can be used for at least 10 years," said Tatsuya Nakaoku, the official in charge of whaling.
    The agency is studying with shipbuilders how long the refitting will take, but "there is no possibility" that Japan will miss the voyage this year, he told AFP by telephone.
    Whales are caught by relatively nimble harpoon ships that bring their catch back to the larger Nisshin Maru, where the mammals are butchered and processed, before being chilled.

    The Fisheries Agency's comments came after a report in the daily Asahi Shimbun on Wednesday which said it was considering abandoning its controversial mission this season because of the refit.The Asahi said the idea of there being no hunt this year had met with opposition from politicians, afraid a disruption for even one year would make Japan look "weak-kneed".
    Japan's whaling mission departs in November, or later, and comes home in the northern spring the following year.
    Commercial whaling is banned under an international treaty but Japan has since 1987 used a loophole to carry out "lethal research" on the creatures in the name of science.
    It has infuriated Australia and New Zealand, which say it is a fig leaf for commercial whaling. The Japanese fleet is pursued every year by anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd.
    Japan claims the hunt is necessary to substantiate its view that the world had a robust whale population. But it makes no secret of the fact that whale meat from this research ends up on dinner tables and in restaurants.
    Anti-whaling activists have cut the number of animals Japan was able to harpoon to 267 in 2011-2012, less than a third of the intended haul.
    In the preceding season, Japan cancelled the hunt after killing only 172 whales because of harassment by environmentalists.

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    The Japanese announcement that they will go whaling this year has a big IF over it.

    The whaling lobby needs to save face, and announcing plans to re-furbish its fleet is just part of Japanese posturing.

    Last year's whaling program was parially financed by tsunami relief funds donated by overseas countries, and no one's going to give the Japs any more more money to be recycled into whaling.

    The money for re-fitting the boats, especially the factory ship, for an expected further ten year life span is like throwing good money after bad. The Jap government isn't making any loud supportive noises about resuming whaling, only the fishing lobby is, claiming money from the government funds to support the fishing industry.

    That money would be better spent on smaller fishing boats doing commercial fishing, rather than on whaling, as no money is being made from whaling at all as whale meat stocks mount and is becoming increasingly unsellable.

    Both Australia and NZ have had enough of Japanese duck shuffling from international waters into Oz and NZ controlled territories, and Greenpeace have re-organised fund raising activities and co-operation with more mainstream environmental concerns, broadening the scope of their efforts to include sustainable fishing, not just whaling.

    I think mthat the latest announcement from the Japanese fishing industry does not exactly reflect the Japanese institute for cetacean research's anticipation ofsuccess for this year's whaling season.

    So far, all that has come out in the press is that the Japanese fishing industry hopes to be able to find the money to refit the factory ship, and is looking at plans, but nothing definite has yet been decided on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Last year's whaling program was parially financed by tsunami relief funds donated by overseas countries, and no one's going to give the Japs any more more money to be recycled into whaling.
    got any links for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    s no money is being made from whaling at all as whale meat stocks mount and is becoming increasingly unsellable.
    or that?

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    Japan Admits Tsunami Funds Used to Defend Whaling Fleet


    | Mon Dec. 12, 2011 12:49 PM PST




    Minke whales loaded aboard the Japanese whaling factory ship, Nisshin Maru, in the Southern Ocean. Credit: Australian Customs and Border Protection Service.
    Japan has admitted that some of its disaster funds earmarked for earthquake and tsunami relief will instead go to boost security for its so-called "scientific" whale hunts. The Japan Times reports:


    Striking evidence is emerging that whale meat sales in Japan are crashing, with three-quarters of a "scientific" catch said to have failed to sell at auction.
    Monitoring of public auctions of the frozen meat discovered that only about 300 tonnes of an 1211-tonne total found buyers, the Japanese Dolphin and Whale Action Network (IKAN) said.
    The whalers' organiser, the Institute for Cetacean Research, admitted to Kyodo News it could not achieve anticipated results.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    The Japanese announcement that they will go whaling this year has a big IF over it.
    There is definitely an IF , just not where you say it is

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    D'ya reckon they'll actually go through with that?
    Re-fit the old factory ship, beef up security again just to save face?

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    Yes , I've NO doubt at all ,

    the IF is the OP .

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    It'll be interesting to watch developments. Last season's programme was well and truly sabotaged, just as the previous year's was.

    It's a costly exercise, and I don't see the average Jo Blow in Japan being too enthusiastic about another maritime problem when Japan's got enough on its plate handling Chinese encroachment into Jap fishing grounds/territorial claims.

    If Japan is going to handle theSenkaku Islands) stand off without totally losing them to China, they won't be wanting to waste money on another (probably) failed whaling trip with mounting world opinion against such a venture.

    They'll lose face there again, for sure, and to lose face over the Senkaku Islands as well is not going to do them any good, internally. The people aren't going to handle government stuff ups foe ever, no matter how philosophical the Japs are.

    The ordinary Japs are starting to speak their minds about things that would never be objected to in the past, even two years ago.
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    They have warehouse full to the brim of whale meat for which there is no demand .

    It's all about showing the victors ( WW's ) that they can .

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    I agree with you there.
    The thing is though, the Jap gov. has recently indicated that it's going to raise taxes, and the ordinary folk don't want to see that money go to what they regard as a useless venture in hunting wales as most of them don't eat the stiff any more.

    They'd rather eat dolphin! And that's another fishy story.

    There's only 6-8 weeks left before the start of the whaling season, and the plan to re-furbish the old Nishin Maru hasn't had the go-ahead yet, and won't until Friday, if the Fisheries Agency gets the backing of most of the Jap government. The agency was the one that proposed not whaling this year in the first place, and it's pressure from some politicians that's forcing the issue.
    As you point out, mit's a case of proving themselves not to be losers in an old face saving game with the west. Well sadly, I think that the generals have got it wrong again, but will not hesitate to call upon the people to sacrifice their taxes for the glory of the country.

    There'll be a backlash in Japan though, as cmany want the gov. to safeguard the wet fish industry in the Japan Sea..

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    Australia condemns Japanese whaling
    Saturday, December 29, 2012

    The Australian government has vowed to continue its fight against all forms of whaling as Japan's whaling fleet leaves for its annual hunt in the Southern Ocean.

    'The Australian government condemns all commercial whaling, including Japan's so-called 'scientific' whaling,' Environment Minister Tony Burke said in a statement.

    'It is particularly offensive that Japan's whaling will take place in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary established by the International Whaling Commission.

    'We will keep working to achieve a permanent end to all commercial whaling.'

    The Australian government started legal proceedings at the International Court of Justice in May 2010.

    Both Australia and Japan have filed their detailed written arguments to the court and the case has been set down for oral hearing in The Hague.

    The Australia government anticipates the case is likely to be listed for hearing in the latter half of next year.

    Attorney-General Nicola Roxon said the decision to start legal proceedings was not taken lightly.

    'The Australian government considers Japan's whaling program is contrary to its international obligations and should stop,' said Ms Roxon.

    Citing the Fisheries Agency, Kyodo News reported on Friday three vessels had left from the far-western port of Shimonoseki, while environmental group Greenpeace said the mother ship had left another port also in the country's west.

    The fleet plans to hunt up to 935 Antarctic minke whales and up to 50 fin whales through March, the fisheries agency said earlier.

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    Sickning !

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    agreed, the fact that Nicola Roxon has been given the top legal job in thecountry on the basis of sweet FA is sickening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The Australian government has vowed to continue its fight against all forms of whaling as Japan's whaling fleet leaves for its annual hunt in the Southern Ocean.
    Which is duplicitous and undemocratic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    The knock on effect of protecting whales is likely to have a positive benefit on the proliferation of algal growth, which is the a key nutrient in marine food chain, and also a huge CO2 sink, conerting CO2 into food.
    In simple terms, more whales mean more algae growth which apparently starts it's growth cycle best on the skin of whales for some strange reason. just as land based plants remove CO2 from the air, pushing out oxygen, so does Algae. So, more Algae means less CO2 which in the long run means less rain and strange out of season storms for all of us.

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    What a load of bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Japan has admitted that some of its disaster funds earmarked for earthquake and tsunami relief will instead go to boost security for its so-called "scientific" whale hunts.
    it seems that Japan can be as bad as Thailand

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    Whatever Ent's quoted has come from sources like greenpeace and the daily mail.

    Take it with a pinch of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Whatever Ent's quoted has come from sources like greenpeace and the daily mail.
    Japan using quake disaster budget for whaling aid ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fd20111211a1.html

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    It particularly ad personally aggrieves me that Japan uses the term "scientific" in its hunt. If they want to hunt whale for food - they should balls up and say "Fuck you - we don't agree and will be hunting for eating whales" - and let the cards fall where they may.

    Perhaps if the scientific community got together and boycotted ALL science and scientists from Japan until this stain is removed, then maybe there would be some real action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Japan uses the term "scientific" in its hunt.
    An attempt to legalise their senseless slaughter and criminal waste .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    An attempt to legalise their senseless slaughter and criminal waste
    Why shouldnt they hunt whales in a sustainable way ? I've asked this question before but no-one can give me a good reason.

    'tis an emotional rather than logical argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Why shouldnt they hunt whales in a sustainable way ?
    They don't , they can't , it is not possible .

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