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    Good points, Socal.

    And remember folks, there will be MORE movies, cartoons, images of Muhammed making fun of him, taking the p*ss, and challenging his actions and character in the future.

    There will be more tizzy fitz by the muzzies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alitongkat View Post
    the only thing with some love to detail and authenticity was the donkey (05:03)... did anyone get its name?
    Socal !

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    its yaffo-er?

    yassir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post
    I tell you what - if any Muslims manage to sit through the whole of that movie they'll have earned a place in paradise.

    I didn't make it halfway through the fecking trailer. What a pile of utter shite. Or perhaps Shiite.



    We really need the Monty Python team to do a "Brian" on the Islamic, er, Messiah.
    The question that needs to be asked:
    "How could this trailer get so much attention ?
    "Why did they have to translate it into arabic (that must have been the most expensive part) ?
    All this could only be done with a little help of certain people sitting in the media, who is realy behind this ?
    Assange is wanted by the U.S. (clown) government for leaking the truth, claiming he has jeopardized the american lifes.
    Are they going to arrest anyone now for this Oscar nominated movie ?
    Are the makers of 9/11 and this movie related in any way ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post

    So you are an atheist and you think the whole world would be a better place if religion was gone right....

    Adolf Hitler, Atheist

    Joseph Stalin, Atheist

    Mao Zedong, Atheist

    Pol Pot, Atheist
    Adolf and his followers Christians incl. the pope.

    Stalin and his followers orthodox Christians.

    Mao Zedong and his followers Budhhism, Taoism and a twist of ying yang.

    Pol Pot and his followers Budhhist and he himself spend 6 years in a closter.

    Dshingis Khan..........

    Mussolini and his followers roman catholics.

    Moses (a jew) his followers jews, christians and muslim, and been causing problems ever since.

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    its all pretty easy, in fact...

    the world is full of sociopaths and psychopaths, just people heavily mentally disturbed... seeking violence, seeking trouble, in need to violate others...
    they find themselves better than others, superior, and want to sort the things out...

    if they want to become active and live their hatred, then there is really nothing better, then making it into a religion...
    it will excuse all sort of pervertness, even covering it as something "good"... "fighting for the right thing"...

    see this anders breyvik, the spree killer in norway ...

    completely sick in the head, and - quickly joined the extremist catholics, previously the nazis...
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    [quote=HermantheGerman;2214144]
    Quote Originally Posted by socal View Post

    So you are an atheist and you think the whole world would be a better place if religion was gone right....

    Adolf Hitler, Atheist

    Joseph Stalin, Atheist

    Mao Zedong, Atheist

    Pol Pot, Atheist
    Adolf and his followers Christians incl. the pope.
    In political relations with the church, Hitler adopted a strategy "that suited his immediate political purposes".[341] According to a US Office of Strategic Services report, Hitler had a general plan, even before his rise to power, to destroy the influence of Christian churches within the Reich.[342][343] The report titled "The Nazi Master Plan" stated that the destruction of the church was a goal of the movement right from the start, but that it was inexpedient to express this extreme position publicly.[344] His intention, according to Bullock, was to wait until the war was over to destroy the influence of Christianity.[340]

    Stalin and his followers orthodox Christians.
    Although raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin was an atheist. Stalin followed the position adopted by Lenin that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers

    Mao Zedong and his followers Budhhism, Taoism and a twist of ying yang.
    Mao Zedong may have been raised in the Buddhist tradition, but he rejected all forms of religion for the atheistic socialism of Marxism-Leninism, which sees organised religion as the 'opiate of the masses'. Mao Zedong's own thoughts, while rooted in dialectical materialism, also contain elements of Confucianism and Taoism.
    Pol Pot and his followers Budhhist and he himself spend 6 years in a closter.
    Pol Pot, born Saloth Sar, was a Cambodian Maoist revolutionary who led the Khmer Rouge from 1963 until his death in 1998.

    In power, the Khmer Rouge carried out a radical program that included isolating the country from foreign influence, closing schools, hospitals and factories, abolishing banking, finance and currency, outlawing all religions,


    Mussolini and his followers roman catholics.
    Mussolini was raised by a devoutly Catholic mother[135] and an anti-clerical father.[136] His mother Rosa had him baptized into the Roman Catholic Church, and took her children to services every Sunday.


    As a young man, he "proclaimed himself to be an atheist and several times tried to shock an audience by calling on God to strike him dead."[136] He denounced socialists who were tolerant of religion, or who had their children baptized. He believed that science had proven there was no God, and that the historical Jesus was ignorant and mad. He considered religion a disease of the psyche, and accused Christianity of promoting resignation and cowardice.[136]

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    Quote Originally Posted by GooMaiRoo View Post
    only a moral retard would stir the pot like this, fully knowing that innocent people would die.
    Supposedly, the director/producer is a Coptic Christian. I don’t know when he immigrated to the USA but if he spent time in Egypt it might explain his hatred for Islam and his personal war on it. Add to this that the director/producer may be a sociopath and you have a person willing to make war and who doesn't care if people get hurt.



    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Peaceful muslims should speak out against their violent brethren but sadly they seem happy mostly to remain silent which gives the impression (mistaken or not) that they do not entirely disapprove.
    They have no problem terrorizing each other. Some people don't speak up because they are terrorized. There is state sanctioned terrorism of chopping off heads in public. In Afghanistan under the Taliban and in Iran they encourage the population to participate in state sanctioned executions. It's a culture of terror, intimidation, and mob sentiment.

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    The movie that was supposed to have set off this latest round of America-hating was an excuse - no more, no less. The third and fourth victims of the blood-boiling Benghazi jihadi attack have been identified. Americans Tyrone (Ty) Woods and Glen Doherty were former Navy SEALS who worked as private security contractors. It’s also now been confirmed that the attack was an elaborate, two-part planned operation — timed to 9/11 with the stupid movie as pretextual cover. President Obama left our embassies and consulates unfortified — skipping out on intel briefings and heading to Vegas instead.

    What a guy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy
    Originally Posted by Looper
    Peaceful muslims should speak out against their violent brethren but sadly they seem happy mostly to remain silent which gives the impression (mistaken or not) that they do not entirely disapprove.
    The Mussos have a very well established PR machine. It survives on the Death-to-the-Infidel message. As with any global advertising campaign, it may be full of lies and half truths. It is obviously working as the Musso message is spreading across the globe at an alarming rate.

    But if the peace loving Muslims want to counter their violent, murdering cousins, the way to do it is from the inside. They need to get the boss's ear and tell him to stop all the bullshit.

    However, even peace loving mussos want a muslim world, so why not just go with the flow and wait. The tragedy of the whole deal is that all these god figures are no more real than the Easter Bunny. And this is the reason for all the bloody killing?

    Even the Christian church knows the best way to fill the pews on a Sunday, is to have a war. People go to church in desperate times. The Mussos have this downb to an art. Create a state of eternal desperation and target the blame on anyone and everything which is non-muslim, and you have the world's biggest petrie dish covered in one of the world's most virulent threats.

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    well they made enough noise , best d/l the fokker 'n see what all the fuss 'tis 'bout

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    Muslim protestors tear gassed Sydney.
    Last updated 18:41 15/09/2012





    Placards saying: "Behead all those who insult the prophet" were held aloft by protestors.

    The riot squad and mounted police have pushed demonstrators from Sydney's Hyde Park after a protest swept through the CBD this afternoon.
    The protests were triggered by a US film, Innocence of Muslims, portraying the prophet Muhammad as a womaniser and paedophile.

    Protesters earlier refused to leave Hyde Park until police released a handful of arrested men.

    Police said that, about 1pm today (local time), a group marched from Sydney Town Hall to Martin Place, where a confrontation occurred between protesters and police outside a building housing the US consulate.
    Police used tear gas on the protesters.

    Up to 500 people stormed through the city, working their way through Pitt Street before moving to Hyde Park amid a heavy police presence.

    The crowd carried signs such as "Behead all those who insult the prophet" and "Our dead are in paradise, your dead are in hell".

    Paramedics attended to several protesters suffering from the effects of tear gas.
    Police arrested people in Hyde Park amid violent confrontations with demonstrators.
    The protesters were pushed back as police dogs and capsicum spray were deployed.

    Fairfax Media saw a number of arrests and seriously injured protesters.
    One protester being taken away by ambulance spat at officers and chanted "Allahu Akbar".
    More than 10 ambulance crews were at Hyde Park.

    Speakers addressing the angry crowd called for calm.
    "We are going to pray," a speaker said.

    "The other important thing is our brothers want our arrested brothers out. There is not going to be any more violence.
    "Our anger and emotion is purely for Allah and his message," he said.

    Abdullah Sary, a speaker at the protest, said the protesters came in peace and were disappointed police used tear gas and the dog squad.
    "The anger comes from the fact if you attack the prophet you are attacking our way of life," he told Fairfax Media.

    "This was a non-violent protest but people don't like seeing their brothers attacks by dogs and ending up in hospital."

    A speaker said to the protesters: "The person who made this video must be held responsible."
    He received a loud cheer amid chants of "Allahu Akbar".

    Late in the afternoon a lone man from outside the group shouted: "Shame on you for promoting murder in the name of religion."
    The crowd swarmed at him attacking him and sparking a second wave of violent clashes with police.

    Police rushed to the man's aide and dragged him out of the park under a rain of waterbottles, sticks and abuse.

    Founder of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, condemned the violent protests, describing the marchers as a noisy minority.
    "To be honest I am dumbfounded as to why people would deal with this issue in this particular way," he said.

    "It's counterproductive and does nothing to uphold the prophet's honour as they claim. In fact it does the exact opposite."

    The US embassy in Australia has refused to comment on whether any preparations were being made to beef up its security.
    The Australian Federal Police provides protection for local embassies.
    The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trading said it was reviewing its security arrangements for Australian embassies overseas.
    Muslim Protestors Tear Gassed In Sydney | Stuff.co.nz
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    The difference between Islam and other religions is that there is no free speech in Islam, nor freedom of thought.

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    Details Slowly Emerging on Controversial Filmmaker [The film that sparks the killing of the U.S ambassador in Libya]
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    LOS ANGELES — Details are slowly emerging about the filmmaker behind the anti-Muslim film that has sparked violent protests across the Muslim world. The film's producer is thought to be an Egyptian immigrant with a checkered background.

    The man behind the inflammatory film is widely reported to be Nikoula Basseley Nikoula, a 55-year-old immigrant from Egypt who lives in suburban Los Angeles. He was convicted of bank fraud in 2010 and remains on parole. The film, The Innocence of Muslims, was made under the name Sam Bacile, with variations used in the spelling of the surname. “Bacile” is similar to one of the many aliases that Nikoula has used.

    The online video promoting the film sparked protests in Egypt and an attack in Libya Tuesday that claimed the lives of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three embassy employees. Since then, protests have erupted in Yemen, Iran, Tunisia, Sudan and other Muslim countries. The filmmaker, who spoke with the U.S. government-funded station Radio Sawa, says he wrote the film and posted the 14-minute video online with no regrets.

    “No, I do not regret it. I am saddened for the killing of ambassador, but I do not regret making it,” the filmmaker said.

    He said he felt some guilt over the mounting protests against the United States, which he said was not involved in the film.

    The filmmaker who spoke in the interview did not admit that he is Nakoula, but the two are widely believed to be one and the same. Nakoula is a Coptic Christian, but Coptic Orthodox priest Joseph Boules says he is not known in southern California's Coptic community. Boules, the pastor of St. Mary and St. Verena Coptic Orthodox Church, says Copts in Egypt and the United States have condemned the film, and feel anguish that the man behind it is Coptic Christian.

    “Everyone I spoke to is disappointed that the man behind the movie could be linked to the name of the Coptic people because we've always been peaceful people. We don't believe in any kind of violence. We condemn all kinds of violence, and also the fact that this could be injurious to our brothers and sisters in Egypt,” Boules said.

    The filmmaker says he is aware of the widespread condemnation in the Coptic community.

    “They are free to do this and this is their right. These people have nothing to do with the subject of the film. The film was my idea alone and it only concerns me,” he said.

    The actors who performed in the film say they were deceived - that they were told the story was about life in the Middle East in ancient times. The production was filmed under the name Desert Warriors in 2011. The casting call in Backstage magazine listed a character named George, and several actors say the name Master George was later overdubbed with the name Muhammad.

    The filmmaker admitted to Radio Sawa that he misled the actors, but said producers have the right to change a film.

    Ted Johnson, political and legal editor at the show business publication Variety, said this shows the peril for actors, who have little recourse if their work is changed in unexpected ways. He says it also demonstrates that tools for film production are widely available.

    “This really does show the way the filmmaking community has expanded much beyond what I would call professional Hollywood, and the impact is really from all corners of the world right now,” Johnson said.

    He says sites like YouTube have become forums for worldwide distribution, and that video - good and bad - can quickly go viral.

    A stridently anti-Muslim evangelical Christian named Steve Klein was involved in the film's production, and the controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones, notorious for his threats to burn the Quran, has promoted the film. But much about the funding and production remains murky, despite the worldwide impact of the promotional video since an Arabic version was posted online this month.

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    WHY BARACK OBAMA SHOULD RESIGN. Just for the record, this is what it looked like for a man who made a film that made the Obama Administration uncomfortable:



    Here’s the key bit: “Just after midnight Saturday morning, authorities descended on the Cerritos home of the man believed to be the filmmaker behind the anti-Muslim movie that has sparked protests and rioting in the Muslim world.”

    When taking office, the President does not swear to create jobs. He does not swear to “grow the economy.” He does not swear to institute “fairness.” The only oath the President takes is this one:
    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
    By sending — literally — brownshirted enforcers to engage in — literally — a midnight knock at the door of a man for the non-crime of embarrassing the President of the United States and his administration, President Obama violated that oath. You can try to pretty this up (It’s just about possible probation violations! Sure.), or make excuses or draw distinctions, but that’s what’s happened. It is a betrayal of his duties as President, and a disgrace.

    He won’t resign, of course. First, the President has the appreciation of free speech that one would expect from a Chicago Machine politician, which is to say, none. Second, he’s not getting any pressure. Indeed, the very press that went crazy over Ari Fleischer’s misrepresented remarks seems far less interested in the actions of an administration that I repeat, literally sent brown-shirted enforcers to launch a midnight knock on a filmmaker’s door.

    But Obama’s behavior — and that of his enablers in the press — has laid down a marker for those who are paying attention. By these actions he is, repeat, unfit to hold office. We hope and expect that the voters will agree in November.

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    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign

    Even though "the movie" was on YouTube for months prior to the collective indignation of thousands of Middle Eastern Islamists all coming together on the eleventh anniversary of September 11th (through a wild coincidence, no doubt), we are being told by our government and our media overlords that we must blame the movie.

    You see, if we blame the movie for the burning of our foreign outposts and the brutal murders of four Americans (including our Libyan ambassador who was reportedly raped), we won't blame the burners and the looters and the murderers and the rapists.

    You see, if we blame the movie for the Middle East burning, we won't blame the Islamists who are doing the burning and looting and raping and murdering.

    Which means we won't further connect the dots and blame Obama's failed Middle East policy; the Obama Doctrine of backing away from the region and allowing events to unfold as America stands idly by -- as the Islamists in the Muslim Brotherhood grab hold of power in Egypt, a country that was once our largest and closest ally.

    Blame the filmmaker.
    Hunt him.
    Out him.
    Demonize him.

    Burn the straw man!

    And all at the direction of a president of the United States who has sworn to uphold the Constitution, you know, the same Constitution that treasures the right of free expression and speech above all else.

    But no one asks … What about Bill Maher?

    Bill Maher?

    Bill Maher made a comedy/documentary called "Religulous" that's most famous for mercilessly mocking Christianity. But what people forget is that the last twenty-minutes or so of the film make a damning case against Islam.

    Bill Maher made a film that mocked Islam.
    Oh, yes, he did.

    Bill Maher also contributed $1 million to a pro-Obama super PAC.

    We're sure that upon being reminded of this, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will tremble with self-righteous indignation and demand Maher take his money back.

    After all, if movies create the terrorists who in turn create the terrorism, what about Bill Maher?
    And what if the terrorists learn that the president of the United States is benefitting from a million dollar contribution given by a filmmaker who mocked Islam? How will Hillary Clinton claim with any credibility that the United States government has no connection to this outrage? How will White House spokesman Jay Carney say this with any credibility:

    “The reason why there is unrest is because of the film,” he said at one point. “This is in response to the film.” At another moment, he said, “The cause of the unrest was a video.” At yet another, “These protests were in reaction to a video that had spread to the region.”
    And the lapdog media just can't stop humping a leg of lies.

    How Hollywood has been silent in its defense of the filmmaker Obama is currently scapegoating (and in some cases, Hollywood is grabbing a torch), even as they embrace Bill Maher.
    Well, some anti-Islamic filmmakers are more equal than others.

    And thank heavens, we have Barack Obama to tell us who the more equal ones are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign
    You are in NEWS not issues so supply the link .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign
    You are in NEWS not issues so supply the link .
    Sorry - here it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign
    You are in NEWS not issues so supply the link .
    here I'll do it for you

    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign

    and the author is

    John Nolte

    who amongst other things is

    Breitbart Editor John Nolte Calls for Right Wing ‘Twitter War’

    Or he’ll call for you to be murdered

    Teachers who take kids to protests without parents’ permission should be murdered.
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    Beat you to it!

    ...any comment on Obama's Brownshirts?

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    pity I didn't hide the details

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign
    The headline leads one to believe the dude who made the film sparking the protests donated $1M to Obama campaign.

    Bill Maher contributed $1 million to a pro-Obama super PAC.

    Gotta watch those headlines. Tricky they be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Anti-Islam Filmmaker Donated Million Dollars To Obama Campaign
    The headline leads one to believe the dude who made the film sparking the protests donated $1M to Obama campaign.

    Bill Maher contributed $1 million to a pro-Obama super PAC.

    Gotta watch those headlines. Tricky they be.
    Indeed, grabs your attention right off.

    Gotta read the 'fine print' to get the whole story and note the hypocrisy surrounding this mess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    note the hypocrisy

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    ^
    Yes, hypocrites of the highest order. It's OK for a left-wing moonbat to make critical remarks about Islam but you cross the line if you're not an Obamabot.

    Anyhow, the following article is most interesting w/regard to the tragic death of Ambassador Chris Stevens:

    Christopher Stevens Feeds the Crocodile

    Winston Churchill once said, “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last.” On September 11, Christopher Stevens, a career diplomat, became one of the first Americans in Libya to feed the crocodile of Ansar Al-Sharia and learned too late that while appeasers may hope to be eaten last, they are often eaten first.
    Christopher Stevens was a Middle Eastern diplomat who typified the new breed going from the University of Berkeley and the Peace Corps to desks in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Syria. He taught English to Moroccan children in the Peace Corps and helped Palestinian Arabs in the East Jerusalem Consulate, which has a firm policy of pretending that Israel does not exist.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said of Christopher Stevens that he “made other people’s hopes his own” and that may serve as a fitting eulogy both for Stevens and for the disastrous foreign policy of making “other people’s hopes” our own that brought on the Arab Spring.

    Stevens, like Clinton and Obama, made the hopes of Islamists his own and they repaid him for it, just as Afghans repaid America for supporting them against the Soviet Union, as Lebanon and Somalia repaid America’s peacekeeping efforts by killing American troops and on down the litany of gratitude in bombs and bullets that have come America’s way from the Muslim world.

    “He risked his life to stop a tyrant, then gave his life trying to build a better Libya,” Hillary Clinton said, but if anything his murder exposed the lie that there is a better Libya now than there was before Hillary and he intervened in Libya. Clinton’s eulogy comes perilously close to conceding Stevens’ real mission and the degree of American intervention in the overthrow of Gaddafi.

    Stevens was the connection between the Islamist Benghazi rebels and the Obama administration’s illegal war to overthrow Gaddafi. His mission, like the true mission of the war, was secret, and the consulate, marginally fortified and devoid of Marines, reflected that secrecy. Stevens did not think that he had anything to fear from the Islamists because they were his friends.

    In the Wikileaks cables, Stevens cheerfully described fighters who saw “resistance against coalition forces in Iraq” as “an important act of ‘jihad’” and local businessmen who took pride in the number of suicide bombers who had come out of the area. For years he had walked safely in their company without understanding that he was just as much of a target as a Marine in Baghdad, but without the training, the weapons or the survival skills.

    The only reason Christopher Stevens had lasted this long is that the jihadist fighters had known a useful man when they met him. And Stevens proved to be very useful, but his usefulness ended with Gaddafi’s death. Once the US successfully overthrew Gaddafi and began focusing on stabilizing Libya, Stevens ceased to be a useful idiot and became a useless nuisance. Attacks soon followed on the Benghazi consulate and on other consulates as well, but the Marines were not brought in and Stevens continued relying on local goodwill to secure his offices. It was only a matter of time until the attackers got through.

    Read the rest here

    The money quote:

    "That is the terrible blind spot in our vision which, like Christopher Stevens, tells us that we need to save the Muslims who hate us, rather than showing us that we need to save ourselves."

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