Thread: British National Party

Originally Posted by alwarner

It does wreck my head a bit though how all these decent people who aren't racist can vote for a piece of shit like Griffin.

Nice piece of cherry picking there Al, now we have blue on blue FFS.
Vote for whoever you want to, it wont make any difference in the end as if you or your kids live in the UK then it will be Sharia.

BNP on its last legs as MEP quits
Ian Dunt
Wednesday, 17 October


Anti-fascist activists hit out at the BBC after it let Nick Griffin onto Question Time.

The British National party (BNP) appeared to be on its last legs today, after one of its two MEPs quit the party.

Andrew Brons, who previously tried to oust party leader Nick Griffin, said his position had become so weak he had to drop out.

"I have been marginalised to such an extent, in what is left of the British National Party, that I have been expelled in all but name," he wrote on his website.

"My position in the rump of the BNP is analogous to that of an employee who has been constructively dismissed."

Brons caused uproar and despair in British political circles after he and Griffin won seats to the European parliament in 2009, but in an example of the in-fighting which often typifies far-right groups he then went on to unsuccessfully challenge Griffin for the leadership.

The Brons departure marks another low point for the fascist party, which has been hit by defections and a membership exodus over recent years.

Brons suggested 80% to 90% of party members, activists and officials had left and that Griffin bore "heavy responsibility".

Griffin's reputation never recovered from a controversial Question Time show in which he was savaged by guests and audience members. He later claimed the invitation had been a trap to discredit him.

Brons became the BNP's first MEP when he won Yorkshire and the Humber seat with ten per cent of the vote. A lecturer in Harrogate College, he then went on to work for the National Front before joining the BNP.

politics.co.uk

Statement from Andrew Brons MEP



Over the last sixteen or eighteen months I have been marginalised to such an extent, in what is left of the British National Party, that I have been expelled in all but name.

Employment law recognises a concept of constructive dismissal which means that the employee cannot be expected to remain in employment and can regard his or her employment at an end. My position in the rump of the BNP is analogous to that of an employee who has been constructively dismissed.

My considerable contributions in support of the Party’s position, in the European Parliament and its committees, are routinely ignored in the Party’s media, just as routinely as they are ignored in the Establishment’s media.

The current Chairman of the rump BNP has described me in a text to his attack dogs as ‘vermin’. More recently, he described me as a ‘state agent’ – a description he attached to me twenty-six years ago but which obviously did not apply when he appointed me as the lead candidate in Yorkshire for the European elections.

It is quite clear that if I should wish to assert my rights of membership of the Rump, my wishes would be ignored and my rights denied. You do not respect the membership rights of somebody you have denounced as a ‘state agent’ – however cynical and dishonest that denunciation should be.

I have so far remained within the Rump Party, because I am aware that I was elected because I headed a party list and not because of any personal qualities recognised by the electorate.

However, it is also clear that 80 or 90% of the Party’s membership, activists and former officials have left it and disappeared in several different directions. The current rump Chairman bears the heavy responsibility for having destroyed the Party of which he is still nominally head.

Furthermore, his treatment of me has released me of any obligations that I might have owed to him and his dwindling bunch of supporters.

I shall regard myself from this moment as being no longer a member of the British National Party but as a former member who has been constructively expelled.

I shall, of course, continue to promote the policies on which I was elected in debates in the European Parliament and in releases for the British and foreign media.

andrewbrons.eu

I thank god who works in mysterious ways as we wave goodbye to the BNP as a political force or should it be farce.

Police investigate BNP comment
Friday, October 19, 2012


Police are investigating comments allegedly made on Twitter by British National Party leader Nick Griffin about a gay couple.
Photograph: PA.

A gay couple who were allegedly targeted on Twitter by British National Party leader Nick Griffin after winning a landmark equality ruling said today that they were shocked by his comments.

Police are now watching the home of Michael Black and John Morgan in Brampton, near Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, after the MEP allegedly published their address on the social networking site and called for a demonstration to be held outside.

The alleged tweets, under the username nickgriffinmep, followed Mr Black and his 59-year-old partner’s win against the owner of bed and breakfast accommodation who refused to let them stay in a double room because of her religious views.

One of the complained tweets read: “So Messrs Black & Morgan, at (their address). A British Justice team will come up to Huntington & give you a...

“...bit of drama by way of reminding you that an English couple’s home is their castle. Say No to heterophobia!”

Today, the couple hit back with Mr Black (64), an exams consultant and writer, calling the politician an “idiot”.

He told BBC Breakfast: “I think Nick Griffin has got very little support in the country.

“Certainly the public response to the incident, when it happened two and a half years ago, and again in the last 24 hours, has been overwhelmingly in support of our stand against discrimination so hopefully that will mean the vast majority of the people in the country will just see what an idiot Nick Griffin is and reject his views.”

Cambridgeshire Police said last night that they were investigating the incident and Dyfed-Powys Police, who cover the area where Mr Griffin lives, said they were liaising with the force.

Twitter users trying to access the account were subsequently told it had been suspended.

The Cambridgeshire Police spokeswoman said: “We have received a number of calls in relations to the tweets and are looking into the complaints we have received.

“Officers will also visit the men mentioned in the tweets as part of our inquiries.” One of the tweets included a home address, she confirmed.

The case at Reading County Court concluded the couple had suffered unlawful discrimination.

At the time, Mr Black, an exams consultant and writer, protested at their treatment but the owner refused to allow them to stay as it was “against her convictions”.

Mrs Wilkinson, a married mother-of-four, considered that providing a double bed to the couple, who are not in a civil partnership, would involve her in promoting what she believed to be a sin, namely sexual relations outside heterosexual marriage, the court heard.

Recorder Claire Moulder found that Mr Black and Mr Morgan, a computer consultant, had been the victims of direct discrimination.

irishtimes.com


Related Thread here :

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/67873...-allowing.html (UK Police investigate woman for not allowing homosexual sex in her bed)

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Originally Posted by Treetop

Nice to see haters being punished and quite rightly so. I wonder how many posters would be able to stay out of jail if the same rules applied here?

...and what a wonderful world that would be, where nobody could say anything except in sterile safe perpetually positive NewSpeak, lest someone was offended and and the offender was dispatched to Room 101.
I wonder how many little cryptofascist сunts there are on here who would survive in the utopia they want to create?

Originally Posted by Treetop

I thank god who works in mysterious ways as we wave goodbye to the BNP as a political force or should it be farce.

Like the heads of the hydra - slice one, and two grow back in it's place, twice as strong. You can control what people say and do (for a while); but you can't control what people think and feel (forever).

Be careful who you pray to... and what you pray for...

where nobody could say anything except in sterile safe perpetually positive NewSpeak, lest someone was offended and and the offender was dispatched to Room 101.

A world where you don't get to be quite so much of an atrocious individual probably looks pretty unattractive from where you're standing but for those of us who don't have dog shit in place of a sense of humanity, it actually looks like quite a good idea.

Like the heads of the hydra - slice one, and two grow back in it's place, twice as strong. You can control what people say and do (for a while); but you can't control what people think and feel (forever).

Well done for an almost flawlessly inappropriate simile. The BNP, probably as a result of being run by and for a collection of buffoons, has successfully imploded; not a single head has been sliced off, though given the depths of paranoid stupidity to which the BNP and its loathsome supporters are prone, they'll no doubt try to blame their fuckwittery on somebody else - social workers, the BBC, darkies, Poles, the chattering classes, Muslamics, the Guardian. One of them will be responsible, I'm sure.

Valid points all but I rather think you may have missed the issue here.

The problem with legislating for those who wish to express unwelcome opinions is that common sense is often relegated to the detriment of freedom.

A case in point is the nonsense surrounding the Chelsea football player Terry who in a fit of extremis called an opposing player a " fucking black cvunt ". The alleged actus rea wasn't the profanity itself but the association with the ethnic allusion which within the current climate of offencespeak was indeed considered a crime. Thus, the use of " black " within a quotation that merely seeks to express an adverse feeling is sufficient to merit prosecution. Is this freedom of speech? Although he escaped conviction he was censured professionally and punished for it so it seems not.

Quite absurd really but then so much of the current social engineering generally is.

meanwhile , back in the real world the poor working class Brits have to live
yet another paki paedo gang in court and they do a lot more than ''express unwelcome opinions '''

and people are celebrating that the BNP are imploding ?;
the only party that for years were shouted down as racists for talking about these immigrant filth .

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Nine men charged with child exploitation offences in Rochdale

Nine men have been charged following an investigation into child sexual exploitation in the Rochdale area, Greater Manchester police have announced.

The charges relate to offences committed separately against one teenage girl between 2008 and 2009 and include rape, attempted rape and sexual activity with a child aged under 16.
A court heard that the five victims – the youngest was 13 when the abuse began – were plied with food, alcohol, drugs and gifts so they could be passed around a group of men for sex.

Roheez Khan 26
Chola Chansa, 32
Ali Asghar Hussain Shah, 39
Anjam Masood, 30
Abdul Huk, 36,
Mohammed Rafiq, 31,
Mohammed Ali, 27,

The nine men have all been bailed to appear at Bury Magistrates' Court on dates between November 7 and December 6.

Nine men charged with child exploitation offences in Rochdale | UK news | guardian.co.uk

BNP leader faces possible action over controversial tweet
Martin Banks
24th October 2012


Inciting violence or even implying an invitation to mob justice is unacceptable

Glenis Willmott


Pressure is mounting on parliament to take disciplinary action against British National Party MEP Nick Griffin over a controversial tweet he made.

The deputy is said to have tweeted the address of a gay couple at the centre of a discrimination trial and called for a "bit of drama" outside their home.

He is accused of urging a "British justice team" to demonstrate outside the home of Michael Black and John Morgan, who were awarded compensation after being turned away from a guest house in England because of the religious beliefs of its owners.

Griffin disagreed with a county court ruling that refusing the couple to enjoy their B&B reservation because they were gay was discrimination.

The couple's house was placed under police protection and his tweets are being investigated by the police.

ALDE MEP Andrew Duff and UK S&D members have now formally reported Griffin's controversial tweets to parliament's president Martin Schulz.

The BNP leader faces possible sanctions under parliament rules.

Glenis Willmott, the leader of Labour MEPs, said tweeting their private address to Griffin's "thuggish BNP supporters is an appalling example of homophobic incitement to violence".

"Inciting violence or even implying an invitation to mob justice is unacceptable from anyone, all the more so an MEP," she said.

UK S&D deputy Michael Cashman, who represents Labour on gay and lesbian issues added, "I brought this to the attention of the president of parliament, who should act swiftly and officially.

"Under parliament rules, MEPs' conduct 'shall be characterised by mutual respect, and be based on the values and principles laid down' in EU treaties, including respect for minorities' dignity. Nick Griffin certainly failed those values when he incited his followers to give a gay couple 'a bit of drama'.

"I do hope parliament will take serious action. This is a sad reminder of the homophobia and violence LGBT people still face."

Further comment came from Sarah Ludford, an ALDE member, who branded Griffin's tweet as "disgraceful".

She said, "This would appear to be a case for the police to investigate."

In his letter to Schulz, Duff said, "Griffin has used Twitter to provoke a potential homophobic attack on two constituents of mine who have won a court case against the owner of a guesthouse who refused them lodging on the grounds that they are gay.

"As you will know, Griffin is the leader of a party, the British National Party, which is of an extremist rightwing orientation. The antecedents of the BNP lie in the British fascist party which supported the Nazis.

"So his tweet to his followers to go to the private address of Black and Morgan to 'give you a bit of a drama' was not meant as an idle threat. Their home address has been kept private by the court, the police and the conventional media.

"Griffin has shown disrespect for the values and principles on which the EU is founded. I hope that you will be able to take some suitable action against him."

theparliament.com

New UK fascist party backed by ex-BNP members
Sun Nov 4, 2012

A new far-right political party in Britain, which is backed by former leaders of the British National Party (BNP), is to be launched in an attempt to reboot the BNP’s electoral vehicle.

A far-right demonstration by the EDL in Luton 2011

The new far-right party, which will be called True Brits (TB), has been set up to attract hundreds of previous supporters of the declining BNP.

The anti-fascist campaign Hope not hate reports that TB aims to form more extreme elements of the British far-right, including some of Britain’s most hard-line racists.

The new fascist party is expected to try to hire members from the ranks of other extreme-right organizations, including the National Front, English Democrats, British Freedom Party, English Defence League, Britain First and British Movement.

TB will also compete in some of the forthcoming parliamentary by-elections, including Middlesbrough and Croydon as both will be held on November 29.

TB will be led by Peter Phillips, a former BNP member who stood for the 2006 election as President of the Royal Institute of British Architects.

Recently, UK’s policing minister Damian Green agreed to the Metropolitan police request for a ban on racist rallies of the English Defence League (EDL) in Waltham Forest and three surrounding boroughs to avoid a public disturbance.

presstv.com

The big parties and the media will do anything to keep the BNP down because they know it would be the end of their monopoly.

Perhaps if the UKIP were a little stronger on immigration and defending Britons' rights in their own country, they would provide a credible alternative, but all parties except the BNP are afraid to take on the muslim issue because they know that they represent a massive voting bloc.

Originally Posted by Mid

The new far-right party, which will be called True Brits (TB)

Imaginative lot aren't they.

Originally Posted by Sucubus

The big parties and the media will do anything to keep the BNP down because they know it would be the end of their monopoly.

It's not really like they have to do too much. The BNP already does a good enough job of that already with their ridiculous 'policies'.

Surely this is more suited for English forum

I dunno, you'd be surprised at the number of BNP supporters you can find in Thailand.

Ironically enough most of them arsing on (without even a hint of irony themselves) about immigration, pakis, golliwogs and the like whilst fondling some Thai lass in a Pattaya bar.

Originally Posted by Sucubus

massive voting bloc

Hahahaha. ~4% of the population. Let's be generous and say 1/2 are eligible to vote. Truly a "massive voting bloc" indeed!

When I lived in the U.K we had thousands of illegal immigrantes who applied for political asylum and got to stay in my town.One bloke an Afgan taxi diver even went back home for three months to see his family,to dangerous to live their holidays are fine.I do not consider myself racist but when soldiers from many other countries are dying trying to clean up the country where he was born its hard not to feel hatred for free loading pounces like this.The U.K would be a much nicer place if they had followed Oz letting in those only who can support them self. Most of the bnps polices are just racist bollocks but a few are what the average Brit wants but are afraid to voice their opinion. When in Rome do as the Romans do and all that,all those patriotic fanatical Muslims should piss off to Mecca.

Originally Posted by Gravesend Dave

...its hard not to feel hatred for free loading pounces like this... When in Rome do as the Romans do and all that,all those patriotic fanatical Muslims should piss off to Mecca.

Indeed. Why can't those Paki, Wog, free-loading, terrorists fit into a society that blanket labels them Pakis, Wogs, free-loaders and terrorists!

Boggles the mind it does.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

most of them arsing on (without even a hint of irony themselves) about immigration, pakis, golliwogs and the like whilst fondling some Thai lass in a Pattaya bar.

I never knew you hung out in Pattaya bars watching brit chavs fondle slagdogs.

I thought you were a family guy

I like the bnp, some of their immigration policies are hilariously good ideas, like paying people to leave. Fantastic.

Originally Posted by Spin

I thought you were a family guy

Of course... I take them with me to watch Brit chavs fondle slapdogs. Quality family time.

What, you think I'm an irresponsible parent or something!?

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Sucubus

massive voting bloc

Hahahaha. ~4% of the population. Let's be generous and say 1/2 are eligible to vote. Truly a "massive voting bloc" indeed!

You do know how many seats that represents, don't you?

Or perhaps you don't, which might explain your comment.

Originally Posted by Sucubus

You do know how many seats that represents, don't you?

Why don't you tell us? 8 out of 650 or 1.2% doesn't seem that terrifying to me..

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/me...labour-england

AntRobertson, I just gave one example Im not blanket labelling ethnic society just people that take the piss.How can you claim political asylum in a country as your own is to dangerous to live in then return for holidays!.Maybe you can give me a better understanding of that.

Originally Posted by dobella

Vote for whoever you want to, it wont make any difference in the end as if you or your kids live in the UK then it will be Sharia.

I think the introduction of Sharia law in to the UK was a mistake, it is creating a parallel legal system within the UK which opposes the equal rights of women.

By the way, I find most of the racist shite I read on here sickening, the rest just pathetic.