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    USA: Woman Shot Dead Hugging Policeman

    Woman Shot Dead Hugging Policeman

    Woman Shot Dead Hugging Policeman

    The bullet punctured Adaisha Miller's lung before entering her heart after the officer's holstered gun went off.

    3:41pm UK, Monday 09 July 2012

    Adaisha was celebrating her upcoming 25th birthday when she was shot


    A 24-year-old woman has died after she hugged an off-duty police officer at a party, causing his handgun to accidentally fire.

    Adaisha Miller was celebrating her forthcoming 25th birthday at a party in Detroit in the early hours of Sunday morning when the accident happened.

    Detroit Police sergeant Eren Stephens said Miller “embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidentally discharge".

    The bullet punctured Miller’s lung before entering her heart. She was taken to hospital but died soon after.

    Adaisha's distraught mother told television station WDIV-TV: "For this to happen to her, whether they want to call it freak accident or mistake in judgment, it should have never happened to my child, and there's nothing I can do to get her back.

    "All she wanted to do was enjoy the weekend for her birthday. She had every right to enjoy turning 25 and look beyond that.”

    The Detroit officer, who has not been named, has been placed on administrative duties while the accident is being investigated by police. The local prosecutor's office will also conduct an investigation into the shooting.

    A lawyer for the Detroit Police Officers Association said that the police officer was distressed by what had happened.

    John Goldpaugh told the Detroit Free Press: "This was just a freak accident. They were having a party and the next thing, a woman is dead. He's devastated by what happened."
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    That's a bit sad.

    But what was he doing with a loaded handgun, with the safety off, at a party, if he was off duty?

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    ^He's American aint he ?


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    That is tragic, RIP

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    Are off-duty policemen allowed to carry safety off, hidden guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Are off-duty policemen allowed to carry safety off, hidden guns?
    Yep it's there constitutional right

    The Smith & Wesson M&P primarily was designed for police and military use. It does not have a safety switch, but the trigger has to be pulled back completely for the gun to fire, certified firearms instructor Rick Ector said.
    Mr Ector said that if properly holstered, the gun cannot be fire accidentally. But Mr Godbee said Mr Parrish's waist holster was made of a soft material, and it would be possible for the trigger to be pulled while the gun was in it.
    Read more: Adaisha Miller killed when police officer's gun fires when she hugs him | Mail Online

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    I read this yesterday, and am still having problems figuring out how this is even possible. Even holstered, loaded, cocked, and with safety off, you still have to pull the trigger. Very strange. And yes, in most parts of the US, off-duty cops are required to carry their service weapons.

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    Loaded guns and parties shouldn't be in the same sentence.

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    I don't understand how a holstered gun, usually pointing downwards, can go off and shoot someone standing behind, and above - as they would be, giving a hug.

    The logistics confuse me here.

    Tragic accident, regardless.

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    If the hammer was outside the holster and a round chambered then she could have caught on it, thereby pulling the holster horizontal and triggering the weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu
    The logistics confuse me here.
    You could always experiment for yourself...

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    The weapon was holstered in a soft holster on his waist, barrel pointing down. She was shot in the chest. Something ain't right here. You can't twist a holster to the point that the weapon is pointing up instead of down without aggressively trying to rip it off the belt or unclipping it if it clips onto the belt. And then you still have to pull the trigger.

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    Maybe it was a wild party and somebody undid his belt before she hugged him.

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    ^ That's probably right, maybe his pants were round his ankles too

    While the police have said that Ms Miller hugged the officer from behind, her mother was told by friends that her daughter 'was being a little flirty' with the man and hugged him face-to-face.
    The bullet punctured Ms Miller's lung and hit her heart, and she died at a hospital.

    Read more: Adaisha Miller killed when police officer's gun fires when she hugs him | Mail Online

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    His real name's not Zimmerman is it?

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    So it isn't just here in Thailand where the police come out with complete and utter bollocks then !

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    After reading the article I find that the death is now classified as a homocide, as it should be.

    The trigger had to be pulled full back for the (no safety catch) Smith and Wesson to fire, and as pointed out in the article, the barrel had to have turned a full 100 degrees to achieve the angle for the shot to reach her lung.

    Eye witness accounts of the incident conflict with the offender's. They say that the victim hugged him from in front, the offender says the opposite, that she was behind him.

    On balance, the offender is lying.
    “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? John 10:34.

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    All sounds very strange, modern handguns used by law enforcement don't usually have a safety and can not be discharged with out the trigger being pulled. A Smith and Wesson police special is a revolver, not carried much there days. Most are semi autos and have 2 trigger pressures. First round is something round 12 pound per square inch pressure. Not easy to pull by accident. At a guess some drunk cop showing off, would have thought that even in the USA having a consealed weapon while drunk was illegal. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    After reading the article I find that the death is now classified as a homocide, as it should be.

    The trigger had to be pulled full back for the (no safety catch) Smith and Wesson to fire, and as pointed out in the article, the barrel had to have turned a full 100 degrees to achieve the angle for the shot to reach her lung.

    Eye witness accounts of the incident conflict with the offender's. They say that the victim hugged him from in front, the offender says the opposite, that she was behind him.

    On balance, the offender is lying.
    Don't worry folks, detective ENT's onto it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    would have thought that even in the USA having a consealed weapon while drunk was illegal. Jim
    How would that be enforced?

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    Maybe it was THIS kind of holster...



    And not this kind:



    Just saying, like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    would have thought that even in the USA having a consealed weapon while drunk was illegal. Jim
    How would that be enforced?
    The same way all rules are enforced, just because you are a cop doesn't allow you to drink and drive. If you are at a bar or party drunk with a gun someone calls the police. Anyway maybe it happened like this.

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    It said "hip"

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Maybe it was THIS kind of holster...



    And not this kind:



    Just saying, like.
    reckon you are onto something there Harry.

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    ^Read the article - which quite clearly says "waist holster".

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    It isn't mentioned in the OP.

    And we have conflicting reports of hugging from the front and the back.

    My money is on the shoulder holster.

    I wouldn't believe much of anything in the Mail.

    The gun's angle also is at question, according to a former Michigan State Police firearms examiner David Balash.

    'What's going to be very important here is the angle of the entry of the wound to the victim (and) if there is in fact any gunpowder residue,' Mr Balash said.

    'I'm having a great deal of difficulty understanding how a weapon that's pointed at the ground can be turned literally 100 degrees minimum to be in an upward position to strike someone.'
    Perhaps it is an Oswald-style "magic bullet"?

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