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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    How many appeals can you have in Bali.
    Same number as in Indonesia, funnily enough.

    She was sentenced in the District Court, this appeal was the High court.

    She has 14 days to appeal to the Supreme Court, failing that she has two more options, she can ask for a Judicial review and finally Presidential pardon.

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    Death Row Briton in Bali Lodges Appeal With Top Court

    Denpasar. A British grandmother on death row for trafficking drugs into Bali on Tuesday lodged an appeal with Indonesia’s top court, a day after losing a bid to get London to fund her legal fight.

    Lindsay Sandiford was sentenced to death in January after cocaine with a street value of $2.4 million was found in her suitcase as she arrived on the resort island, a shock verdict after prosecutors recommended 15 years in jail.

    The 56-year-old lost a first appeal against the sentence at Bali High Court earlier this month and her lawyer, Fadillah Agus, on Tuesday lodged a last-ditch appeal to the country’s top court.

    “I lodged an official notification to appeal to the Supreme Court through the district court in [Bali’s capital] Denpasar,” he told AFP.

    It came after three Court of Appeal judges in London on Monday upheld a previous court ruling that the British government was not obliged to pay for an “adequate lawyer” for Sandiford.

    The court heard that she needs about £8,000 ($12,200) to continue her fight against her death sentence, and only £2,000 had so far been raised. The Foreign Office has refused to pay as a matter of policy.

    But Agus pledged to continue defending Sandiford and said he hoped her family and friends could raise enough funds to cover the legal fees.

    “This situation will not change my position to defend Lindsay, because I don’t defend her only for the money,” he said.

    He also lashed out at the British government: “I can’t comprehend it, because even Indonesia tries to defend its citizens when they are facing serious problems overseas”.

    The lawyer said a document would be submitted within 14 days outlining the grounds for her appeal, after which the Supreme Court would likely make a decision at a closed hearing in two to four months.

    If she loses the appeal, she can seek a judicial review of the decision from the same court. After that, only the president can grant her a reprieve.

    In a statement issued by legal charity Reprieve ahead of Monday’s ruling, Sandiford, who claims she was forced to transport the drugs as her children’s safety was at stake, said she was “desperate”.

    “If I should die — and I hope I don’t, but I fear I may — then I hope that my execution will prompt the British government to do more for others,” she said. Executions in Indonesia are carried out by firing squad.

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    Death Row Briton in Bali Lodges Appeal With Top Court | The Jakarta Globe

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    Bit of a bloody cheek expecting the UK taxpayer to pick up her legal bill!

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    He also lashed out at the British government: “I can’t comprehend it, because even Indonesia tries to defend its citizens when they are facing serious problems overseas”.
    Bit of a bloody cheek the lawyer expecting the british gov. to pay his fees.

    The problems are all of her own making, she knew the risks, took the gamble and shouldnt really be complaining now.

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    He also lashed out at the British government: “I can’t comprehend it, because even Indonesia tries to defend its citizens when they are facing serious problems overseas”.
    There is "facing serious problems" and there is "Caught bang to rights smuggling Class A drugs". I doubt the Indonesian government give much of a toss about people in the latter category.

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    Bali drugs case: Lindsay Sandiford loses death sentence appeal.
    A British woman sentenced to death for drug trafficking in the island of Bali has had her appeal rejected.

    An Indonesian Supreme Court spokesman said it would not overturn the sentence handed down by two lower courts on 57-year-old Lindsay Sandiford, of Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.

    Sandiford was sentenced to death by firing squad in January for smuggling 4.8kg (10.6lb) of cocaine.

    The UK Foreign Office said it would continue to support her and her family.
    BBC News - Bali drugs case: Lindsay Sandiford loses death sentence appeal

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    she has no appeal

    http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/lU...083103_2-1.jpg

    thanks for improving the gene pool

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    An Indonesian caught smuggling Class A drugs in quantity into the UK would face a term of imprisonment of 14 years upon conviction if they denied the charge and 7 years if they pleaded guilty upon indictment.

    In the spirit of reciprocity the Indonesian authorities should pass a sentence more appropriate to the crime in this case but of course we are dealing with heathen states with no coherent idea of what justice may mean.

    It's not as if drug smuggling was that serious in the scheme of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    An Indonesian caught smuggling Class A drugs in quantity into the UK would face a term of imprisonment of 14 years upon conviction if they denied the charge and 7 years if they pleaded guilty upon indictment.

    In the spirit of reciprocity the Indonesian authorities should pass a sentence more appropriate to the crime in this case but of course we are dealing with heathen states with no coherent idea of what justice may mean.

    It's not as if drug smuggling was that serious in the scheme of things.
    The laws in Indonesia on drugs have been well documented for years. That woman knew what she was doing and I believe she knew the laws as well,she got caught..tough shit...don't smuggle drugs into Indonesia..its not worth it..they will execute you...stop fucking moaning when you get caught...easy as that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    she has no appeal
    She has two. Firstly she can lodge a judicial review if new evidence is presented or if there was negligence in the case. Or she can ask for a 'pardon'

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    In the spirit of reciprocity the Indonesian authorities should pass a sentence more appropriate to the crime in this case
    Why ?

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    It's not as if drug smuggling was that serious in the scheme of things.
    Thats hardly the point.

    In your scheme of things it may not be that serious, but in the indonesian scheme of things it is extremely serious, so serious in fact that they shoot those who smuggle drugs, and that is all that matters.

    Most people who visit indonesia know this, and i'm sure this woman knew it too and is therefore totally responsible for the predicament she now finds herself in. Sympathy is not deserved.

    In the spirit of reciprocity the Indonesian authorities should pass a sentence more appropriate to the crime in this case
    The indonesians have indeed passed a sentence deemed appropriate to the crime according to indonesian law.

    You really should curb your rather outdated victorian ideals of wanting to impose cultural imperialism on the fuzzy wuzzies and hoping they will put down their spears and start behaving like perfect englishmen.

    We all know it just wont happen and that they will continue turning up unwanted in droves on our shores and imposing their heathen values on us and we will accept it all without a murmur of complaint.
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    "An Indonesian caught smuggling Class A drugs in quantity into the UK would face a term of imprisonment of 14 years upon conviction if they denied the charge and 7 years if they pleaded guilty upon indictment".

    I wonder what the sentence would have been if she was caught bringing that quantity of drugs into the USA?
    Not a death sentence,probably 50 years without parole?
    I think she`s got the easier option....

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    How long does it take to execute someone in Indo, in general, including appeals and all?

    There are 2 members of the Bali nine awaiting execution correct, or did they get their sentences commuted to life?

    And once again, if someone wants to avoid trouble, stress and the possible death sentence, don't smuggle drugs into Indo / Bali.

    Really, it's --->
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    Quote Originally Posted by ch1ldofthemoon View Post
    "An Indonesian caught smuggling Class A drugs in quantity into the UK would face a term of imprisonment of 14 years upon conviction if they denied the charge and 7 years if they pleaded guilty upon indictment".

    I wonder what the sentence would have been if she was caught bringing that quantity of drugs into the USA?
    Not a death sentence,probably 50 years without parole?
    I think she`s got the easier option....
    Unlikely as sentencing guidelines in the UK restrict guilty plea reductions of no more than 1/3 of the initial sentence. further more in the case of class A drugs its limited to a 20% reduction.

    however as a mule the starting sentence in the UK would be 8 years, 14 years would require the chap to have a leading role in the conspiracy. The UK does not go into large guilty plea reductions as their is believed to be a risk, and one born out in the us, of coercing people to plead guilt despite their innocence.... simply because they fear their ability to demonstrate their innocence and the consequences of loosing.
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    So yes she got denied her appeal today, good because if she was given a reduced sentence then all the people who fancy having a go at trafficking around the world will be packing their suitcases for an easy fortune.
    Life aint easy but some who peddle drugs must know by now what the price is if they are caught, shame the UK doen't follow the SE Asian model.
    I well remember those 2 young Aussie boys in KL. around the late 80's who were hung and i was there at the time, leaving a few weeks later at the airport and seeing those posters on the wall still resonates.

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