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    Only in England

    From today's Mail on Sunday:-


    A Muslim woman police officer has sparked a new debate by refusing to shake hands with Britain's most senior police chief for religious reasons.
    The incident happened at a passing-out parade where Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was inspecting a line-up of 200 recruits.


    In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf - also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
    The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious teaching for her to touch a man.
    Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that her gesture has sparked top-level discussions at Scotland Yard.
    Some officers argue that her attitude towards men might impede her ability to detain offenders.
    However, it is clear that she is happy to come into contact with men, just not shake their hand or kiss them.
    An inquiry has now been launched and the unidentified WPC - described as 'a non-Asian Muslim' - could face the sack if it is considered that her strict religious beliefs prevent her performing as an effective police officer.
    However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim community.
    The incident happened at Imber Court, Scotland Yard's sports and conference centre at Thames Ditton in South West London, when the 200 recruits attended a passing-out parade having completed their 18 weeks' basic training.
    A senior police source said: "Before Sir Ian arrived she told her training supervisor that she was not going to shake his hand because it was against her religion.
    "She also said she did not want her picture taken with the commissioner because they would only use it for propaganda.
    "Sir Ian was informed on his arrival of the officer's request. This has never happened before and he was bloody furious. But he agreed to go along with it so as not to cause a scene.
    "He went out and shook the hand of every single new recruit apart from her. It was very obvious and very embarrassing.
    "There was a great deal of discussion about it afterwards. People were asking how the hell is she going to make an arrest if she refuses to touch men."
    Having completed her 18 weeks' initial training, the WPC has now been assigned to a West London police station as a beat bobby.
    Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job.
    A Scotland Yard spokeswoman said of the Imber Court incident on December 21 that normally the police would have refused a request not to shake Sir Ian's hand.
    "It was only granted by members of training staff out of a desire to minimise any disruption to other people's enjoyment and to ensure the smooth running of what is one of the most important events in an officer's career,' she said.
    "The commissioner did question the validity of this request and the matter is being looked at by the MPS."
    The spokeswoman added that the officer has completed all basic training, including the safety course 'which requires recruits to come into physical contact with each other regardless of gender'. Asked about the officer's ability to make an arrest, she said: "There is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty there."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    However, senior commanders are worried that dismissing her would deepen the atmosphere of mistrust between the police and the Muslim community.
    Sack the bitch, she dont fit in so she cant do the job, is she gonna get time off every couple of hours to go and have a pray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    "There is a standard between personal and professional life. A passing-out parade is a personal event. You are not fulfilling a professional duty there."
    If she is wearing uniform then she is 'on duty' and she is performing a profesional duty. It is only personal when she is in civvy clothes.
    I agree, sack the bitch

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    ^
    Got to agree, a public ceremony in uniform is not "personal".
    She should have been advised not to participate in the parade instead of allowing her to use the event for her own "propaganda purposes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    From today's Mail on Sunday:-


    In addition to refusing a traditional congratulatory handshake from Sir Ian, the WPC - who wore a traditional Muslim hijab headscarf - also declined to be photographed with him as she did not want the picture used for 'propaganda purposes'.
    Surely, this must contravene uniform regulations. A cop's uniform is an integral part of the identification process by the public.

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    OK, so it's 4 for "Sack The Bitch" to 1 "unclear".

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    Stop dithering RDN, just tell it straight, the bitch should be sacked....

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    Whats she gonna do when she catches a rapist? "OH, I don't touch them cos they are unclean".. sack the bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal
    Like all newly qualified officers, she will remain on probation for two years to satisfy her superiors that she is suitable for the job
    I'd be surprised if she makes it 2 months.

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    Shouldn't this be a poll?

    I vote for 'sack the biatch'.

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    I say "sack the bitch"

    AND

    Make her reimburse the state for the cost of her wasted training.

    AND

    give her a free one way ticket to Iraq and throw in a free burkha.

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    burn her

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    ^ waste of petrol.


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    Sack her, and let the inevitable tribunal decide, during which she may be asked whether she would ever arrest a non-muslim male if it involved a likelihood of physical contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    I say "sack the bitch"

    AND

    Make her reimburse the state for the cost of her wasted training.

    AND

    give her a free one way ticket to Iraq and throw in a free burkha.

    ^^^ Wot he said!!

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    The inevitable hang-em high posse was due to join in.
    Burn her or sending her to Iraq, yeah, that's what reasonable upholders of justice and fairness would do.

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    I say hire more like her! is there a big jewelry district in London? Put 'er to work there, please.
    I can appear quite unclean given proper motivation...

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    It does seem that some of them go out of their way to attract controversy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie View Post
    I say hire more like her! is there a big jewelry district in London? Put 'er to work there, please.
    I can appear quite unclean given proper motivation...
    Yep, "Hatton Garden" Full of shops owned by Hassidic Jews, she'd love it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie View Post
    I say hire more like her! is there a big jewelry district in London? Put 'er to work there, please.
    I can appear quite unclean given proper motivation...
    Yep, "Hatton Garden" Full of shops owned by Hassidic Jews, she'd love it there.
    That's a weird place - full of blokes with funny hats and pig tails.

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    ...with large beards and black coats.
    Was a bit embarassing at times when they started talking in Jiddish to me because my German accent sounds similar.

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    but they are english , no???

    ok. i'll answer for you.




    NO.
    why is england copying australia. i thought you lot were the mother country.(excepting cricket.)
    same in aus. people taking positions who don't accept that , religion or whatever. a job is a job. no special treatment. do your duty.
    the requirements are shifted to maintain the pc. environment that has taken over common sense.

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    Most of the Hatton Garden shop owners and traders are British, yes.
    The job requirements are "shifted" to adjust to contemporary society and culture.
    Both the British and Australian populations have large ethnic and religious minorities, like it or not.

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    She should be dismissed and publicly humiliated.

    Muslims, Christians - whatever, they all alienate anybody who isn't.

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    Look british law should be changed all minging women should be forced to wear the Burka. A jury of 12 men should be conviened in each and every face to decide if the women in question minging. Her case should be reviewed every two years. I don't live in England becuase there are too many ugly people.
    They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve

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