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    Massive solar storm heading for Earth

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    Strong solar storm heading for Earth | Reuters

    By Deborah Zabarenko
    WASHINGTON | Thu Mar 8, 2012 5:57am EST

    (Reuters) - A strong geomagnetic storm is racing from the Sun toward Earth, and its expected arrival on Thursday could affect power grids, airplane routes and space-based satellite navigation systems, U.S. space weather experts said.
    The storm, a big cloud of charged particles flung from the Sun at about 4.5 million miles per hour (7.2 million km per hour), was spawned by a pair of solar flares, scientists said.
    This is probably the strongest such event in nearly six years, and is likely more intense than a similar storm in late January, said Joseph Kunches, a space weather specialist at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration NOAA.L.
    This solar disturbance is a three-stage affair, or as Kunches said in a telephone interview from Boulder, Colorado: "We hit the trifecta."
    These are the stages he described, with the first two already affecting Earth:
    * First, two solar flares moving at nearly the speed of light reached Earth late on Tuesday. Such flares can cause radio blackouts.
    * Then, solar radiation hit Earth's magnetic field on Wednesday, with possible impact on air traffic, especially near the poles, satellites and any astronauts taking space walks. This phase could last for days.
    * Finally, the plasma cloud sent by the coronal mass ejection, which is basically a big chunk of the Sun's atmosphere, is expected to arrive at Earth early on Thursday.
    This phase can disrupt power grids, satellites, oil pipelines and high-accuracy GPS systems used by oil drillers, surveyors and some agricultural operations, scientists said.
    GPS systems used for less-refined functions, such as the turn-by-turn navigation found in many cars, should not be affected, according to NOAA's Doug Biesiecker.
    Kunches said the geomagnetic component of the storm may arrive a bit ahead of schedule because it follows a previous storm that left the Sun on Sunday and is currently buffeting the Earth's magnetosphere.
    "When you've already had one coronal mass ejection storm, sometimes the next coronal mass ejection storm is faster to get here," Kunches said.
    These storms could produce some vivid auroras, according to experts. In the Northern Hemisphere, the aurora borealis could be visible at mid-latitudes, which in the United States could include New York, Illinois and Iowa.
    Such stormy space weather is unusual in recent history, according to Harlan Spence, an astrophysicist at the University of New Hampshire who is principal investigator on the Cosmic Ray Telescope for the Effects of Radiation (CRaTER) aboard NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
    "These relatively large (solar) events, which we've had maybe a couple of handfuls total in the course of a decade, we've now had two or three of them, more or less right on top of each other," Spence said by telephone.
    The Sun is on the ascendant phase of its 11-year cycle of solar activity, with the peak expected next year, scientists said.
    "It's a clear harbinger that the Sun is waking up," Spence said. "We're trying to put this in context not only ... of what has the Sun done in the past, but what is the biggest thing the Sun is capable of and what should we be planning for in terms of extreme sorts of events in the future."
    (Reporting By Deborah Zabarenko, Environment Correspondent; Editing by Will Dunham)

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    Sound like theres going to be a good light show up north, that we will miss ):

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz
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    : ) without the space

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    D: <-without electricity!

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    ^^ its be because i cannot tell the difference between left and right

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    THAT'S why TD's been up and down like a whore's drawers today. Solar Flares!

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    IS true your isp?

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    Uploaded by StephenHannardADGUK on 13 Mar 2012

    Some have suggested that this object is a plasma ball or natural phenomena that is quite common during solar storms etc.

    In this video you can see the object is in rotation with the suns orbit, as the object comes into view you can quite easily see that it is not a natural plasma sphere or solar gas, it is a solid and defined object.

    We can also see a flash, possibly a sun flare then the object is seen to detach itself from orbit, and seems to accelerate at warp speed considering its size, away from the sun.

    We can also see a smaller object come into view just after the sphere speeds away, is it an image artefact, glitch, or is it another UFO, if it is then its bigger than planet Earth.

    What's going on guys, any info, insight would be appreciated.

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    I would not worry, for the first 40 seconds I was pretty sure it was an attempt at a POV of how to make the perfect thick crust pizza, they had the flashlight and all.

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    The thread extending from the lower left edge of the sun in the video is known as a "prominence," a feature containing cooler, denser plasma than the surrounding 3.5-million-degree Fahrenheit corona, said Joseph Gurman, project scientist in the Solar Physics Laboratory at NASA Goddard. It isn't yet known exactly how prominences develop, but these dense plasma loops can extend from the sun's surface thousands of miles into space.

    "When prominences are that extended in height above the limb [edge of the sun], it's usually a sign that they're about to erupt, as this one did," Gurman told Life's Little Mysteries.
    Solar Flare Or UFO? NASA Says 'Refueling Spacecraft' Actually A Solar Prominence (VIDEO)
    “You can lead a horticulture but you can’t make her think.” Dorothy Parker

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    They've been bringing up these solar storms as causing problems but I've yet to hear of any actual problems. Maybe I've missed the news on the effects. Just seems like they are more hype to fill newspapers.

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    There have been problems with very long distance power lines in the past, I believe it was in Canada. Very large voltages can be induced into powerlines by solar storms. Or more precisely by the shifts in the earth's magnetic field caused by those storms.

    There have been communications satellites lost to solar storms as well. But the operators and produers of satellites have probably learned from the losses.

    So the warnings are far from being a hype only. Even if this one did no damage.

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    Maybe this is a new energy source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Maybe this is a new energy source.
    Solar energy, what a good idea, I wonder why no one thought of it before.

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    There are different kinds of solar of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    There have been problems with very long distance power lines in the past, I believe it was in Canada. Very large voltages can be induced into powerlines by solar storms. Or more precisely by the shifts in the earth's magnetic field caused by those storms.

    There have been communications satellites lost to solar storms as well. But the operators and produers of satellites have probably learned from the losses.

    So the warnings are far from being a hype only. Even if this one did no damage.
    Links pls.

    I was intimately involved in a country's very long distance power grid for 7 years, never came across or heard of any actual problems caused by solar storms, ever.

    I was intimately involved in mainframes, their distributed workstations/pc's/ATM's and their national communication networks for 25 years, never came across or heard of any actual problems caused by solar storms, ever.

    I was intimately involved in pussy for way too many years, never came across or heard of any actual problems caused by solar storms, ever.


    I is dumbfounded. Must be a modern problem. The New Sun. God's getting really pissed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    Links pls.
    It was from memory, but will certainly try to dig something up and will come back.

    Edit: OK it was not Canada, it was Quebec. In March 1989.

    Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers
    OK it was not Canada, it was Quebec.
    And what country might Quebec be in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    Links pls.
    It was from memory, but will certainly try to dig something up and will come back.

    Edit: OK it was not Canada, it was Quebec. In March 1989.

    Wikipedia
    Thanks.

    The aurora could be seen as far south as Texas

    .....and the fact that most of Quebec sits on a large rock shield prevented current flowing through the earth
    One helluva storm. And a special situation.

    Nonetheless.

    Ok, and what about pussy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Maybe this is a new energy source.
    Solar energy, what a good idea, I wonder why no one thought of it before.
    There were some dodgy rumours that you might be able to collect and direct X-rays at a chunk of Hafnium 178, and generate electricity... but it sounds a bit Sci-fi... mind you, how would you explain wi-fi to someone from a 100+ years ago?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    And what country might Quebec be in?
    You may have noticed the smiley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha View Post
    Maybe this is a new energy source.
    Solar energy, what a good idea, I wonder why no one thought of it before.
    There were some dodgy rumours that you might be able to collect and direct X-rays at a chunk of Hafnium 178, and generate electricity... but it sounds a bit Sci-fi... mind you, how would you explain wi-fi to someone from a 100+ years ago?!
    Hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    And what country might Quebec be in?
    You may have noticed the smiley.
    Is Quebec in Belgium which is a non-country?

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