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    Australians, Does your national leader lie?

    Does your national leader lie?

    • by: Andrew Bolt
    • From: Herald Sun
    • February 15, 2012 12:00AM




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    THE question we now face: Is the Prime Minister of Australia a liar?

    Her Four Corners disaster on Monday night is part of a pattern.
    Julia Gillard deceives and, I suspect, lies. And what's killing her is that she does it so badly.


    Here are my seven deadliest examples.
    The first: Just a "part-time" typist
    The Socialist Forum was a radical group that helped to bring former members of the Communist Party into the Labor Party.
    In 2007, asked about her involvement, Gillard said "many a long year ago" - mostly when "I was a university student" - she'd merely done "part-time clerical and administrative work" for this "debating society".
    In fact, she'd been on the forum's management committee, organising events and giving speeches. The parliamentary register of interests states she was still a member from 1998 to 2002.

    The second: "I did not say that"
    On July 6, 2010, Gillard announced she'd talked to East Timor's President about her plan for a detention centre for boat people.
    Her Immigration Minister said our "unauthorised boat arrivals will be returned to East Timor".
    On July 8, after East Timor's Prime Minister said "what plan?", Gillard rewrote history: "I did not say that ... I'm not going to leave undisturbed the impression that I made an announcement about a specific location."
    On July 9, mocked for flip-flopping, she conceded: "I said in my speech that one possibility was a centre in East Timor."
    The third: "There will be no carbon tax"
    Days before the 2010 election, Gillard promised: "There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."
    A year later, Parliament passed her carbon tax.
    The fourth: Fooling Andrew Wilkie
    In 2010, independent MP Andrew Wilkie agreed to make Gillard prime minister after she promised to make all poker machines have mandatory pre-commitment.
    Last month, scared of the backlash, Gillard broke her promise.
    The fifth: "A bit of a lark"
    In 2010, ABC journalist Annabel Crabb told a story of deception that must have come from Gillard.
    In 1994, Gillard was Labor's health spokeswoman, and "one night ...fired off a despairing text message to a friend, confessing exasperatedly that health was too confusing for her".
    To her horror, she accidentally sent the message to Tony Abbott, then the health minister. Fearing he'd embarrass her, she arranged to talk to a regional radio station.
    "During the interview she laughingly confessed to having sent tongue-in-cheek text messages to her opponent feigning frustration with the minefield of health reform.
    "Had (her email) been raised in Parliament, she would musically have read aloud from the transcript, demonstrating that the whole thing was a bit of a lark."
    The sixth: "The Marriage Act will stay unchanged"
    Gillard before the 2010 election promised not to allow same-sex marriage.
    "We have determined as a Labor Party the Marriage Act will stay unchanged," she said.
    "And that's what you should expect to see from the Gillard Labor Government if we're re-elected."
    A Labor MP this week introduced a private member's bill to allow same-sex marriage, which the Labor Party now supports.
    Says Gillard: "The undertakings I gave to the churches are undertakings that I'm abiding by ... There won't be a government bill."
    The seventh: I did not plot
    Gillard yesterday said she'd never plotted to remove Kevin Rudd as prime minister.
    "I made a decision to run for prime minister on the day I walked into Kevin Rudd's office and asked him for a ballot," she said.
    But on Monday came her embarrassing exchange with Four Corners reporter Andrew Fowler.
    Fowler: Did you know that people in your office, two weeks before Kevin Rudd was removed as prime minister, were preparing a (victory) speech that you subsequently delivered?
    Gillard: Uh well, I did not ask for a speech to be prepared.
    Fowler: My question was simply whether or not you knew.
    Gillard: I heard your question and I've answered it.
    My list does not include many of Gillard's broken promises or false claims about her "carbon tax".
    No, I've listed only the seven deceptions I think damn her most.
    So, is your Prime Minister a liar?


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    This thread belongs in MKP.

    There is not a single politician on the planet who doesn't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Does your national leader lie?
    Yes .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Does your national leader lie?
    Yup, he sure does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This thread belongs in MKP.

    There is not a single politician on the planet who doesn't lie.
    Most have the smarts to lie believably, or at least realize that someone in that position needs to have at least slight credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This thread belongs in MKP.

    There is not a single politician on the planet who doesn't lie.
    Obviously, as otherwise they would never get elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This thread belongs in MKP.

    There is not a single politician on the planet who doesn't lie.
    Obviously, as otherwise they would never get elected.
    Now i know how democratic system work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    This thread belongs in MKP.

    There is not a single politician on the planet who doesn't lie.
    True, my bad, I should rephrase it to ' ... Unashamedly, lie through her teeth at every opportunity'.

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    ^

    Not long now Willy and the ranger is gone. Unfortunately women just cannot manage to hang in there long term when ascended to lofty heights.

    She needs to be culled from that position and separated from her obvious pain.

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    I read the header and thought I was going to 'tell it how it is' but it turns out you know already. This is why I have never voted.

    The other reason being Maggie Thatcher refused POLL TAX dodgers the right to vote.
    I was 18 when the poll tax came in. I agreed with most of her policies up till then but I have never voted.
    I would post pictures but life's too short.

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    The only time I've voted was because the owner of the taxi company that took me to and from work promised me (and delivered) a rather nice bottle of plonk if I voted for him as mayor.

    He won. And later got convicted of embezzling public funds.

    But at least he never set himself out as anything but corrupt, so I actually admire the bloke.

    I wouldn't vote for any of the big three in England, they're all self-serving c**ts.

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    Gillard is easily the most conniving and shameless leader Oz has ever had . . . bring back the lovely days of Hawke, Keating, Gough, Nifty Nev and lil Johnny

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    Quote Originally Posted by gas
    Now i know how democratic system work.
    This system is revolutionary, there must be plenty of countries which would jump at the chance to adopt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiserWizard View Post
    Gillard is easily the most conniving and shameless leader Oz has ever had . . . bring back the lovely days of Hawke, Keating, Gough, Nifty Nev and lil Johnny
    Yep, I'll take anyone of them over her.

    Abbot's not great, but Gillard is a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    Abbot's not great,
    Abbott's not great,not positive,not truthful,not clever, not creditable, not likable, not good looking in budgie smugglers,not voteworthy. Let's face it Abbott's JUST NOT.

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    And yet, I would far prefer him to the deceitful, condescending harpy that we have in power now.

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    Of course she lies, have a look at the length of her nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    And yet, I would far prefer him to the deceitful, condescending harpy that we have in power now.
    Any day. Any day.

    Quote Originally Posted by palexxxx View Post
    Of course she lies, have a look at the length of her nose.
    Added to which . . . she's Welsh! (like some other posters here who shall remain un-named)

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    and a ginger.

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    Let's not talk about Ant here, please - anyway, he's a Kiwi

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiserWizard View Post
    Let's not talk about Ant here, please - anyway, he's a Kiwi
    Please don't use real Christian names on the forum, else you will have to be disciplined.

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    Are you stalking me, Moog? Oh dear, next you'll cry about how many posts I have made.

    Stalker, stalker, stalker. . .

    (Oh, and Ant is his TD nic, but you knew that and were only being a prick - successfully.)

    Stalker, stalker

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiserWizard View Post
    Are you stalking me, Moog? Oh dear, next you'll cry about how many posts I have made.

    Stalker, stalker, stalker. . .

    (Oh, and Ant is his TD nic, but you knew that and were only being a prick - successfully.)

    Stalker, stalker
    Can you stop multi-nicking. Its against the Rules. Its also against the spirit of the forum to delete photos as a flounce-gambit.

    I think you owe our community an apology, if not to me, to the Moderators and Owner, who have kept this Forum vibrant despite your destructive efforts elsewhere.

    On your knees please. Beg for forgiveness, reinstatement and mercy.

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    hello Ent,

    shame you cannot reply.


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