Thread: Australia: Riot police rescue Gillard, Abbott from protesters

Should've left the Abos alone in the first place, bad enough nicking their land, at least let em go bush.

The only reason they're in town anyway is because of handouts, and that started off way back when all the Abos got put on mission stations and crap and Ozies tried to turn em into Xtians and good workers and all that bullshit.

Because of that sick attempt to make Abos integrate into a colony they got knocked right around and now small wonder they're banging their heads in.

They lost their binding culture when they got "civilized" by Xtianity and welfare.
Their walkabout territory was fenced up and their whole infrastructure collapsed.

They've been brought up to be dependent on Mother Oz now.

Originally Posted by Koojo

And where did they and their friends get the materials to build the house with?

During a walkabout.

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

First off, it is despicable that the LEADER of Aus was assaulted in that manner -- you should be ashamed that your PM was assaulted in that manner -- the world is watching you, democratic nation. Whatever you think of her policies, you (or the majority of the people) elected her to office.
Second, the Aborigines' values have always differed from Western ones, just as they have in the Americas. They are allergic to alcohol (like Asians), yet get addicted in a nano-second. Left-wingers think the whiteys should give back everything to the First Nations; sorry, we moved in, took over, they lost and could/would not evolve. Some do well, many do not and want to stay on reservations to preserve their cultures; unfortunately, most do naught, get their welfare, drink it all, abuse wives and kids...
Should we all move back to Europe? Ship all the blacks back to Africa and the Asians back to whence they came? Ain't gonna happen.

My thoughts exactly - well said.

Originally Posted by redbaron

Originally Posted by Minnie Maugham

First off, it is despicable that the LEADER of Aus was assaulted in that manner -- you should be ashamed that your PM was assaulted in that manner -- the world is watching you, democratic nation. Whatever you think of her policies, you (or the majority of the people) elected her to office.
Second, the Aborigines' values have always differed from Western ones, just as they have in the Americas. They are allergic to alcohol (like Asians), yet get addicted in a nano-second. Left-wingers think the whiteys should give back everything to the First Nations; sorry, we moved in, took over, they lost and could/would not evolve. Some do well, many do not and want to stay on reservations to preserve their cultures; unfortunately, most do naught, get their welfare, drink it all, abuse wives and kids...
Should we all move back to Europe? Ship all the blacks back to Africa and the Asians back to whence they came? Ain't gonna happen.

My thoughts exactly - well said.

The galah was insulted not assaulted.

The patronising views expressed above belong in the 1800's where they came from.
Having instigated Aboriginal dependency upon Oz civilization, the colonialists started the whole process of making a mess of their lives ending up the way it is now, fkd up Abos on the glue and petrol and meths and booze and drugs and fighting and bashing and raping and murdering and suiciding and robbing and lazy no hopers.
Totally messed up bunch of people.

The ones in the outback and out bush are OK, they'll survive, they'll do good.
The rest in town get stuffed up by white fellla ways, and ought to be encouraged to get back to their tribes, as they've lost the spirit. Once they connect back with their own tribe and folks again they get their spirit back and they're ok again.
The trouble is many got so settled in mission stations and towns and don't go walkabout any more.

Now you want to wash your hands of it!

^ Oh, really? How would you know? You an abo?
Sorry, I disagree. We have many tribes and reservations. Some have semi-assimilated and feked the white devils by playing their own game. Really wealthy bands who have control. Others play the sob story game, living in filth with nothing but drunks and dope addicts who try to shame the govt for not giving them enough. Oh, ya? Give them $ millions in welfare and the band leaders squander it. It's been five generations plus since we took over. Get on with it.

I know plenty.

The semi assimilated Aboriginals you refer to mostly live bush.
The others are trapped in a dependency cycle that YOU Ozies built for any Aboriginal who dared stick their neck out.

When any Aboriginals frkd up, they were heavily dealt to.

This is one instance of white man organising the Aborigines.
Palms Islanders

If one then looks at the history of the island, one can see that this settlement was set up, ‘managed’ and left to flounder whilst the adjoining islands and surrounding areas, including Townsville, have prospered. From the beginning, the “management” of Palm Island has been flawed. It was a place to which Aboriginal people were sent as a form of punishment. It was built as an open prison and run with authoritarian rule. This has left scars on generation after generation. No-one could seriously dispute that. The treatment of Aboriginal people on the island should attract international censure. The history of Palm Island is a raw example of the failings of government policy in respect of Aboriginal people. An apology is pointless; what we need now is a genuine undertaking to right those wrongs.

You know fuck all ENt, you're the king of cut and paste.

Better than inventing garbage like you do.

Missions were set up in the 19th century, usually by clergy, to house, protect, and 'Christianise' local Aboriginal people. Using Christian texts to guide and justify their actions, missionaries encouraged Aboriginal people to move into mission settlements and join small European Christian communities.
Many Aboriginal people disliked the mission system, and started to demand their own land. The colonial government responded by setting up Aboriginal reserves or stations. Often, these had previously been mission settlements. The reserves had their own machinery, and farmed their own crops and livestock.
The three best-known 19th-century missions in NSW were Cumeragunja, Warangesda and Brewarrina. In 1893 these places were taken over by the government and run as stations or reserves. In 1911, at the height of the government's program of reserve lands, there were 115 reserves. Of these, 75 had been created because of Aboriginal demands for land.
The stories of missions and reserves tell of a time when Aboriginal nations had been devastated by disease, pastoral expansion and conflict. Aboriginal people were heavily restricted in their access to land and freedom of movement. Missions and reserves remain important today because of their ongoing use by Aboriginal people, and because of the deep and personal attachments many people still have to missions and reserves.

Originally Posted by ENT

The ones in the outback and out bush are OK, they'll survive, they'll do good. The rest in town get stuffed up by white fellla ways, and ought to be encouraged to get back to their tribes, as they've lost the spirit. Once they connect back with their own tribe and folks again they get their spirit back and they're ok again.

you have no idea what you are talking about.

raving looney.

Originally Posted by Koojo

You know fuck all ENt, you're the king of cut and paste.

not even that, he makes this shit up.

You can read all about it on the web or any newspaper.

The Oz track record in dealing with its own self created problem of Aboriginal dis-integration makes sickening reading.

The problem is made worse by the smart arsed denialists like the two above.
They are part of the problem.

Others are part of the answer.

Originally Posted by ENT

Better than inventing garbage like you do.

Bullshit, inventing stuff is way better.

Originally Posted by ENT

You can read all about it on the web or any newspaper.

But you still get it wrong.

Do you now.

What Abbot said that day.

''I think the indigenous people of Australia can be very proud of the respect in which they are held by every Australian......''

Originally Posted by ENT

''I think the indigenous people of Australia can be very proud of the respect in which they are held by every Australian......''

Held ?

In police custody ?

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

But you still get it wrong.

So does Australia

Something is wrong, when more people die in police custody, than in S Africa during peak year Apartheid

1 in 20 black adult male in WA are sleeping in jail tonight

Whatever the reason, Oz failed somewhere, and I'm sure you know it

Originally Posted by helge

Whatever the reason, Oz failed somewhere, and I'm sure you know it

I do not disagree with that.

^^ 1 in 20? Not bad, I reckon. Better than being butchered in Rwanda.

Racist prick.

Aborigines in general have no desire to live as the white population does.
When do we stop supporting them or the other parasites who live totally off the Govt?
As an Aussie it angers me to see bloody tents in Canberra where they attempt to denigrate who ever maybe in power while getting supported by the Govt who are giving them their non earned payments.

They went on for ages about wanting the Govt to say Sorry for the half caste children that were taken away from them(for at the time good intentions).
Well they got their Sorry but has that changed anything?

They are allowed to set up Aborigine only schools which maybe appropriate in some areas, but try setting up a White only school and see the reaction.

Their protest on Australia day was over the top and the Tent Embassy should be moved immediately.
There is no doubt the Govt would be willing to give them the money to set up an appropriate place, if we have not already done s,o as countless millions each month is thrown away supporting them now.
The Tent Embassy though suits them so they can get additional exposure to pressure the Govt in power to provide them even more money that will as it has in the past been squandered.

I wonder how many of our White Aussie do gooders would be willing to provide money out of their own pockets to support this endless charade.

Gillard and Abbott are gutless individuals who are so concerned with their own standings that they would not tell it as it is.
Even though I did not like Howard he at least realised that saying Sorry to the Aborigine population for things that happened well before even he was born by his predecesors achieved nothing more than a deeper dip into Govt monies.

When I hear comments regarding the high percentage of Aborigines and Black Americans in Jail compared to the white population as though the authorities are being unfair to them I cringe.

Yes we are guilty, but only because we continue to support those who wont help themselves.
Until we stop reinforcing them this saga will continue to haunt our Govt way past my demise.
Am I a racist? Nope.
Am I opposed to supporting those who wont help themselves?
Absolutely Yes!!

Australian Aborigine demographics.
Recent figures.

There are only 517,200 Aboriginals and Torres St Islanders, 2.5% of the Oz population. of 22.18 million.

14% of Aboriginals are unemployed.

46%, of Aboriginals are employed (166,100).
This compares to 5% national levels of unemployment.

Aboriginal only schools were set up by the Oz government, then underfunded!
Where do you get the idea of Aboriginal only schools, Ozie Tig.

Schools in remote Aboriginal communities struggle as they receive less resources than similar schools in towns with mainly non-Aboriginal students.

Education is a key issue raised by many Aboriginal community leaders and parents. Australian state and territory governments are watched closely what they do and achieve in Aboriginal education.

When the Northern Territory government set educational targets in a budget paper in May 2011 it grossly reduced minimum reading and writing standards for Aboriginal students compared to standards for non-Aboriginal students [18].

Education has always been central to Indigenous economic, social and cultural development. A good education determines Indigenous children's health, literacy, employment, social status and productivity.

Aboriginal children learn best and most efficiently when taught by a culturally-aware teacher, preferably an Indigenous teacher [6]. Aboriginal teachers bring a wider range of cultural perspectives into schools and develop networks with the Indigenous communities around the school, a valuable asset when addressing school children's needs or problems.

But non-Indigenous students could equally benefit from Aboriginal teachers. "If Aboriginal teachers could work in every school, a student would be able to relate to Indigenous people as part of the current community, not a problem in the media.

Then you bang on about the government giving '"countless millions" each month to Aboriginal needs.
You have been misinformed.

Read more: Education - Aboriginal Education Australia

Ent you are reading from reports that do not always reflect the actual scenario.I do not claim to know every only Aboriginal School but they exist.My point being that only the White Australian is discriminated with this where as there are Aboriginals only learning institutions.
I frankly do not believe the report you have offered regarding 46% of Aborigines are employed and I would be surprised if I am alone on that belief.
There are many decent Aborigines who have the pride to seek a better life without the support of the Govt.
You can only as the saying goes lead people to water etc etc.
Can I enquire if you have first hand experience in the actual Aborigine situation in OZ?
There are many benefits provided to those who have any trace of Aborigine blood in them that is not available to white Aussies.
In closing the Aborigines inability to handle the intake of alcohol would be the major reason why their numbers in jail far out number the white Aussie population.
I am an Aussie and respect any of my countrymen regardless of colour who have a real go at living without dependency of Govt handouts.
Many of my friends live around Aborigine communities and they would challenge the sugar coated reports quite strenuously.
Time for the Aborigine to stop complaining of what happened in the past and move on.

ok I concede you are not just quoting reports.

Thanks.