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    US raid frees Western hostages in Somalia

    The White House has confirmed that United States Special Forces carried out a nighttime raid in northern Somalia and freed two hostages while killing a reported nine pirates. A statement released on Wednesday from US President Barack Obama read, "Thanks to the extraordinary courage and capabilities of our Special Operations Forces, yesterday Jessica Buchanan was rescued and she is on her way home."
    The statement continued: "The United States will not tolerate the abduction of our people, and will spare no effort to secure the safety of our citizens and to bring their captors to justice."
    The two aid workers, US citizen Jessica Buchanan, 32, and Dane Poul Hagan Thisted, 60, had been working for the Danish Demining Group. They were abducted in Galkayo in the semi-autonomous Galmudug region in October.
    Mohamed Ahmed Alim, president of Galmudug, told the Reuters news agency that nine pirates were killed and five captured during the operation near the pirate haven of Haradheere.
    Alim was speaking from Hobyo, another pirate base north of Haradheere, where he said he was negotiating the release of a US journalist seized on Saturday, also from Galkayo.
    "About 12 US helicopters are now at Galkayo. We thank the US. Pirates have spoiled the whole region's peace and ethics. They are mafia," Alim said.
    Families reunited
    A Western official told The Associated Press the raid was carried out by US military forces. A second official said the helicopters and the hostages flew to a US military base called Camp Lemonier in the Horn of Africa nation of Djibouti.
    A key US ally in the region, Djibouti has the only US base in sub-Saharan Africa. It hosts the military's Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa.
    The Danish Refugee Council said both freed hostages were unharmed "and at a safe location". The group said in a separate statement that the two "were on their way to be reunited with their families".
    The two aid workers appear to have been kidnapped by criminals, sometimes referred to as pirates, and not by Somalia's al-Qaeda-linked group al-Shabab.
    As large ships at sea have increased their defences against pirate attacks, gangs have looked for other money making opportunities like land-based kidnappings.
    A pirate who gave his name as Bile Hussein said he had spoken to gang members at the scene of the raid and they reported that nine pirates had been killed.
    Colleague detained
    A second pirate who gave his name as Ahmed Hashi said two helicopters attacked at about 2am at the site where the hostages were being held about 20km north of the Somali town of Adado.
    US military rescue operations are typically carried out by highly trained special forces. A spokeswoman at the Pentagon had no immediate comment.
    The Danish Refugee Council had earlier enlisted traditional Somali elders and members of civil society to seek the release of the two hostages.
    The aid agency has said that Somalis held demonstrations demanding the pair's quick release. Their Somali colleague was detained by police on suspicion of being involved in their kidnapping.
    Several hostages are still being held in Somalia, including a British tourist and two Spanish doctors seized from neighboring Kenya, and the American journalist kidnapped on Saturday.

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    You hear TD'ers jumping up & down about the ME, here is another place on the planet that is a hell hole. Hardly gets any coverage.

    I wonder who has been door knockin'

    If they got them in detention, now they can be butt pirates
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    No doubt next will com a statement that the US has no business invading a sovereign country.

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    SEAL Team 6 strikes again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    SEAL Team 6 strikes again!
    Is that from your sources? I thought a bunch of them were killed in Afghanistan a few months back.

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    ^Yes and yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    SEAL Team 6 strikes again!
    They have been getting all the glory, maybe it is some P.R for a bigger budget next year

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    ^SEAL Team Six are the hostage rescue guys. They have all of the same capabilities as the other teams, but on top of that have the hostage rescue charter. More likely, these recent approvals for rescues are part of Obama's reelection campaign - and, from comments I saw on several news blogs, it appears to be working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

    More likely, these recent approvals for rescues are part of Obama's reelection campaign
    how sad is that ?

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    ^Sad. But the US-based news blogs are running about 3-1 on how ballsy Obama's decision to send in the troops was, and Mrs. Wooky is getting points for her pro-troops campaigns. Swinging the troop vote brings along a lot of blue collar/poor people votes. Might be my cynicism shining brightly through, but sending the troops into danger gets votes, as long as it is successful. Everybody likes a good news rescue, and the boys have been doing the job. And it costs Obama nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    More likely, these recent approvals for rescues are part of Obama's reelection campaign
    Nothing the last guy wouldn't have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    More likely, these recent approvals for rescues are part of Obama's reelection campaign
    Nothing the last guy wouldn't have done.
    True; politicians are always willing to campaign off of the successes of the troops. What I find very distasteful is the news reporting, from some credible papers, that Obama 'personally directed' the effort - which anyone with a brain knows is total bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Nothing the last guy wouldn't have done.
    Chickenhawk? Militarily, his tenure was nothing but disastrous.

    I certainly don't give Obama top marks either- he significantly upped the stakes in Afghanistan, and got nowhere. In the process, he's pissed off paki's & peaceniks with his aggressive use of drone strikes, and extra territorial incursions. It wouldn't matter if his gamble paid off, but it didn't- and now the US & allies are even further in a hole there, and word is looking for a way out. But comparing him to chickenhawk is to flatter Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    ^SEAL Team Six are the hostage rescue guys. They have all of the same capabilities as the other teams, but on top of that have the hostage rescue charter. More likely, these recent approvals for rescues are part of Obama's reelection campaign - and, from comments I saw on several news blogs, it appears to be working.
    Great tool to beat down the moral of the enemy.

    Hey guys guess who's comin' to visit!

    Knock...knock.... it's the big bad wolf

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    It's very strange how so many nations have their naval ships running around all over the place trying to nail these Somali fuckers. The costs when you add in all the ransoms paid, increased insurance premiums and general disruption to shipping must be astronomical.

    We know where they hang out. We know where their bases are, so instead of wasting shit loads of money on diesel fuel and grog for the sailors, why not send in a couple of dozen teams of "hostage rescue" guys on a regular basis.

    Dead pirates don't go to sea....and it would put a big dent in the land kidnappings too..... Everybody's got "special forces" these days.....they could run a competition to see who can get the most pirates.....big cash prizes....a shot at a movie..there's all kinds of possibilities...
    I blame the Americans......and Thaksin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    We know where they hang out. We know where their bases are, so instead of wasting shit loads of money on diesel fuel and grog for the sailors, why not send in a couple of dozen teams of "hostage rescue" guys on a regular basis.
    But half of the world at least would start whining about sovereignty of Somalia and how an invasion would be against the UN Charta. Expecially all the dictators in the world lead by Russia and China would cry out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    We know where they hang out. We know where their bases are, so instead of wasting shit loads of money on diesel fuel and grog for the sailors, why not send in a couple of dozen teams of "hostage rescue" guys on a regular basis.
    Three words why the politicians won't do that. Black Hawk Down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman View Post
    It's very strange how so many nations have their naval ships running around all over the place trying to nail these Somali fuckers. The costs when you add in all the ransoms paid, increased insurance premiums and general disruption to shipping must be astronomical.

    We know where they hang out. We know where their bases are, so instead of wasting shit loads of money on diesel fuel and grog for the sailors, why not send in a couple of dozen teams of "hostage rescue" guys on a regular basis.

    Dead pirates don't go to sea....and it would put a big dent in the land kidnappings too..... Everybody's got "special forces" these days.....they could run a competition to see who can get the most pirates.....big cash prizes....a shot at a movie..there's all kinds of possibilities...
    Next thing you know there will be a reality TV show on it....it would get kinda boring watching it with the faces always blurred out

    Great idea though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    We know where they hang out. We know where their bases are, so instead of wasting shit loads of money on diesel fuel and grog for the sailors, why not send in a couple of dozen teams of "hostage rescue" guys on a regular basis.
    But half of the world at least would start whining about sovereignty of Somalia and how an invasion would be against the UN Charta. Expecially all the dictators in the world lead by Russia and China would cry out.
    True, but if we set it up right we can all deny that any of the teams were "ours" Everybody just shrug their shouders and deny everything...while Russia, China et al whine away.... (Actually I don't know if the Russians and Chinese really care much for these characters, but the civil rights groups and people like Chavez would be going apeshit...)

    They are supposed to be special " black ops" kind of guys.....in and out in 20 minutes, kill everything that moves, and nobody even sees them........or maybe that's just the Hollywood version, .....

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    The capability is there and you can bet your bottom dollar that the desire is there on the part of the Soldiers/Seals. The simple fact is that the politicians are the ones worried about going in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The capability is there and you can bet your bottom dollar that the desire is there on the part of the Soldiers/Seals. The simple fact is that the politicians are the ones worried about going in there.
    The can deny everything. Surely with all of the incredibly complex and ongoing conspiricy plots that our respective governments are supposed to be engaged in; a little thing like this should be easy....

    They could have the hit teams dress up as UN peacekeepers from some South American country, or even have them wear business suits with lapel badges that say things like "Hello, my names Frank" or "Ask me about retirement planning" They could even have them make videos for U-Tube....who is ever going to know what really went down?..... Stop being negative and obstructionist...we gotta get them pirates....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

    More likely, these recent approvals for rescues are part of Obama's reelection campaign
    how sad is that ?
    Real sad but still not up there with Blow Job Bill sending a few Thomahawks into some empty camel tents to take the attention off Monica and his bell end...
    Last edited by Boon Mee; 26-01-2012 at 07:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    Actually I don't know if the Russians and Chinese really care much for these characters
    Absolutely true, I agree, they don't care. But they want to appear as the protectors of the rights of those states. This way they will always have a lot of nations ruled by the most oppressive regiemes voting with them in the UN.

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