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    69 Patriot Missiles and 160 tons of Explosives found on British Ship Bound To China

    Finland impounds shipment of Patriot missiles, explosives in ship destined for Shanghai - The Washington Post



    "Finland impounds shipment of Patriot missiles, explosives in ship destined for Shanghai

    (Kimmo Mäntylä, Lehtikuva/Associated Press) - Cargo ship M/S Thor Liberty at the Mussalo harbour in Kotka, Finland Wednesday Dec. 21 2011. Finnish customs found 69 Patriot surface to air missiles on the British flagged ship, destined for the Chinese port of Shanghai from Germany. Police and customs officials are investigating whether the shipment broke Finnish laws on weapons trading.

    By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, December 21, 8:16 PM

    HELSINKI — Finnish authorities on Wednesday impounded 160 tons of explosives and 69 surface-to-air missiles found on a British-flagged cargo ship ultimately destined for Shanghai, China, officials said.

    The M/S Thor Liberty sailed from the north German port of Emden on Dec. 13 and two days later docked in Kotka, southern Finland, to pick up a cargo of anchor chains, Finnish Customs spokesman Petri Lounatmaa said.


    Investigating officers didn’t know the origin of the Patriot missiles or who was supposed to receive them, he said.

    “We have impounded the explosives and missiles and asked the Defense Ministry to transport and store them,” Lounatmaa said. “At this stage we don’t know where it (the cargo) was loaded on the ship or if the Thor Liberty planned a drop before its port of destination in China.”

    Detective Superintendent Timo Virtanen of the National Bureau of Investigation said dock workers found the explosives — picric acid — badly stored on open pallets instead of in closed containers. They alerted inspectors who found the missiles in containers marked as holding fireworks.

    Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen said she had not heard of a similar case.

    “Of course, there are legal transports of weapons or defense material (through Finland) but in this case the cargo was marked as containing fireworks,” Rasanen told national broadcaster YLE TV. “That is quite unusual.”

    Lounatmaa said customs officials and police have launched a joint investigation into a possible breach of Finnish export and weapons trading laws."


    So who has 69 Patriot missiles missing from their declared inventory?
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    The Finnish press are suggesting South Korea as the recipients.

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    or NK, more likely

    anyway, those Patriot missiles don't work and have a high failure ratio, that's the big joke in the arm industry

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    Surely south Korea could just purchase them and ship them legally.
    In fact the U.S. would probably give them to the SKs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    those Patriot missiles don't work and have a high failure ratio
    Not when used by the Americans.
    <H1 id=article-title class=entry-title>British: Two Killed as U.S. Patriot Shot Down Fighter Jet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    or NK, more likely

    anyway, those Patriot missiles don't work and have a high failure ratio, that's the big joke in the arm industry

    A 10% success rate is pretty good. Just don't tell them that the other 90% get through

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    Why would the Chinese be buying anchor chains from Finland?

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    On 24 March 2003, a USAF F-16CJ Fighting Falcon fired a HARM at a Patriot Missile Battery after being locked on. No one was injured but the Patriot Missile Battery was damaged.[28]

    On 2 April 2003, 2 PAC-3 missiles shot down a USN F/A-18 Hornet killing US Navy Lieutenant Nathan D. White of VFA-195, Carrier Air Wing Five.

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    they don't work, the US army is trying to get rid of them and sell them cheap

    could explain why they were bound to China or NK

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    On 24 March 2003, a USAF F-16CJ Fighting Falcon fired a HARM at a Patriot Missile Battery after being locked on. No one was injured but the Patriot Missile Battery was damaged.[28]

    On 2 April 2003, 2 PAC-3 missiles shot down a USN F/A-18 Hornet killing US Navy Lieutenant Nathan D. White of VFA-195, Carrier Air Wing Five.

    You forgot the the first part of the paragraph:
    MIM-104 Patriot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Patriot was deployed to Iraq a second time in 2003, this time to provide air and missile defence for the forces conducting Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF). Patriot PAC-3, GEM, and GEM+ missiles both had a very high success rate intercepting Al Samoud-2 and Ababil-100 tactical ballistic missiles.[12] However, no longer-range ballistic missiles were fired during that conflict. The systems were stationed in Kuwait and successfully destroyed a number of hostile surface-to-surface missiles using the new PAC-3 and guidance enhanced missiles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome
    Patriot PAC-3, GEM, and GEM+ missiles both had a very high success rate intercepting Al Samoud-2 and Ababil-100 tactical ballistic missiles
    it's nice to see wiki maintaining the lies of the US government, the truth is that they failed almost all the time, it took 4 missiles to take one Saddam missiles out

    they one big fucking joke, everyone is laughing at those missiles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    it's nice to see wiki maintaining the lies of the US government, the truth is that they failed almost all the time,
    The truth is you haven't a clue.

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    ^ you are American right ? how about that for a clue,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ^ you are American right ? how about that for a clue,
    You really haven't been paying attention have you.
    Like I said above....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    it's nice to see wiki maintaining the lies of the US government, the truth is that they failed almost all the time,
    The truth is you haven't a clue.
    I've actually got to agree with the gay gallic retard here, as I have a piece of a Scud that landed not 10km from my house, despite a fair few batteries of the things dotted around at the time.

    The only saving grace is that we were advised well in advance that the safest place to be in the event of a Scud attack was absolutely bang on the target at which it was aimed.

    Word on the street is that the most effective (although unproven) version is the one in Haifa that has had a few tweaks done to it by the blue suede shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    it's nice to see wiki maintaining the lies of the US government, the truth is that they failed almost all the time,
    The truth is you haven't a clue.
    I've actually got to agree with the gay gallic retard here, as I have a piece of a Scud that landed not 10km from my house, despite a fair few batteries of the things dotted around at the time.

    The only saving grace is that we were advised well in advance that the safest place to be in the event of a Scud attack was absolutely bang on the target at which it was aimed.

    Word on the street is that the most effective (although unproven) version is the one in Haifa that has had a few tweaks done to it by the blue suede shoes.

    Nobody is defending the rather poor record the Patriots had in the first gulf war, though the initial moral victory by even having the first functional anti-ballistic missile defense went rather well, don't you think? What do you think would have happened in Israel if the Patriots had not at least put on show of some sort of defense (that could actually be shown on TV) ?

    Today, some 30 years later, they are apparently a whole different breed, though admittedly, still unproven against full ballistic missiles. Does anyone want to take them on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Today, some 30 years later, they are apparently a whole different breed, though admittedly, still unproven against full ballistic missiles. Does anyone want to take them on?
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    I'm sat not a couple of kms away from a dozen or so mobile units as we speak.

    To be brutally honest, I'd rather not sit here for a field test.


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    Anything/anyone who comes from the US and is called 'Patriot' is bound to be a dead loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Today, some 30 years later, they are apparently a whole different breed, though admittedly, still unproven against full ballistic missiles. Does anyone want to take them on?
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    I'm sat not a couple of kms away from a dozen or so mobile units as we speak.

    To be brutally honest, I'd rather not sit here for a field test.
    Hopefully some day you won’t be on here saying how glad you are they were there, because if they don’t work or they weren’t there, then you wouldn’t be round to tell us either way, will you?

    So go ahead and agree with frog, if you want….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Today, some 30 years later, they are apparently a whole different breed, though admittedly, still unproven against full ballistic missiles. Does anyone want to take them on?
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    I'm sat not a couple of kms away from a dozen or so mobile units as we speak.

    To be brutally honest, I'd rather not sit here for a field test.
    Hopefully some day you won’t be on here saying how glad you are they were there, because if they don’t work or they weren’t there, then you wouldn’t be round to tell us either way, will you?
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    Congratulations, I do believe you've come in with a late winner for the 2011 TD "Stating the Bleeding Obvious" Oscar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Today, some 30 years later, they are apparently a whole different breed, though admittedly, still unproven against full ballistic missiles. Does anyone want to take them on?
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    I'm sat not a couple of kms away from a dozen or so mobile units as we speak.

    To be brutally honest, I'd rather not sit here for a field test.
    Hopefully some day you won’t be on here saying how glad you are they were there, because if they don’t work or they weren’t there, then you wouldn’t be round to tell us either way, will you?
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    Congratulations, I do believe you've come in with a late winner for the 2011 TD "Stating the Bleeding Obvious" Oscar.

    And agreeing with the frog? Is that the winner for you ?

    TH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    Today, some 30 years later, they are apparently a whole different breed, though admittedly, still unproven against full ballistic missiles. Does anyone want to take them on?
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    I'm sat not a couple of kms away from a dozen or so mobile units as we speak.

    To be brutally honest, I'd rather not sit here for a field test.
    Hopefully some day you won’t be on here saying how glad you are they were there, because if they don’t work or they weren’t there, then you wouldn’t be round to tell us either way, will you?
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    Congratulations, I do believe you've come in with a late winner for the 2011 TD "Stating the Bleeding Obvious" Oscar.

    And agreeing with the frog? Is that the winner for you ?

    TH
    It's like Monkeys and Typewriters. Sooner or later one of his wild stabs in the dark (something with which I'm sure he's very familiar) is going to hit the target.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Why would the Chinese be buying anchor chains from Finland?
    Assuming the chains are used, Finland is not a producer, they have been acquired for the steel, the Chinks can't get enough of it.. The docks here in Southampton are piled high with scrap metal of all descriptions bound for China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
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    Why would the Chinese be buying anchor chains from Finland?
    Assuming the chains are used, Finland is not a producer, they have been acquired for the steel, the Chinks can't get enough of it.. The docks here in Southampton are piled high with scrap metal of all descriptions bound for China.
    Prior to the crash it was all going to Dubai.

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