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    'Dismal' prospects: 1 in 2 Americans are now poor or low income

    WASHINGTON - Squeezed by rising living costs, a record number of Americans — nearly 1 in 2 — have fallen into poverty or are scraping by on earnings that classify them as low income.

    The latest census data depict a middle class that's shrinking as unemployment stays high and the government's safety net frays. The new numbers follow years of stagnating wages for the middle class that have hurt millions of workers and families.
    "Safety net programs such as food stamps and tax credits kept poverty from rising even higher in 2010, but for many low-income families with work-related and medical expenses, they are considered too 'rich' to qualify," said Sheldon Danziger, a University of Michigan public policy professor who specializes in poverty.

    "The reality is that prospects for the poor and the near poor are dismal," he said. "If Congress and the states make further cuts, we can expect the number of poor and low-income families to rise for the next several years."

    Congressional Republicans and Democrats are sparring over legislation that would renew a Social Security payroll tax cut, part of a year-end political showdown over economic priorities that could also trim unemployment benefits, freeze federal pay and reduce entitlement spending.

    Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, questioned whether some people classified as poor or low-income actually suffer material hardship. He said that while safety-net programs have helped many Americans, they have gone too far, citing poor people who live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs.

    "There's no doubt the recession has thrown a lot of people out of work and incomes have fallen," Rector said. "As we come out of recession, it will be important that these programs promote self-sufficiency rather than dependence and encourage people to look for work."

    Mayors in 29 cities say more than 1 in 4 people needing emergency food assistance did not receive it. Many middle-class Americans are dropping below the low-income threshold — roughly $45,000 for a family of four — because of pay cuts, a forced reduction of work hours or a spouse losing a job. Housing and child-care costs are consuming up to half of a family's income.

    States in the South and West had the highest shares of low-income families, including Arizona, New Mexico and South Carolina, which have scaled back or eliminated aid programs for the needy. By raw numbers, such families were most numerous in California and Texas, each with more than 1 million.

    The struggling Americans include Zenobia Bechtol, 18, in Austin, Texas, who earns minimum wage as a part-time pizza delivery driver. Bechtol and her 7-month-old baby were recently evicted from their bedbug-infested apartment after her boyfriend, an electrician, lost his job in the sluggish economy.

    After an 18-month job search, Bechtol's boyfriend now works as a waiter and the family of three is temporarily living with her mother.

    "We're paying my mom $200 a month for rent, and after diapers and formula and gas for work, we barely have enough money to spend," said Bechtol, a high school graduate who wants to go to college. "If it weren't for food stamps and other government money for families who need help, we wouldn't have been able to survive."

    About 97.3 million Americans fall into a low-income category, commonly defined as those earning between 100 and 199 percent of the poverty level, based on a new supplemental measure by the Census Bureau that is designed to provide a fuller picture of poverty. Together with the 49.1 million who fall below the poverty line and are counted as poor, they number 146.4 million, or 48 percent of the U.S. population. That's up by 4 million from 2009, the earliest numbers for the newly developed poverty measure.

    The new measure of poverty takes into account medical, commuting and other living costs. Doing that helped push the number of people below 200 percent of the poverty level up from 104 million, or 1 in 3 Americans, that was officially reported in September.

    Broken down by age, children were most likely to be poor or low-income — about 57 percent — followed by seniors over 65. By race and ethnicity, Hispanics topped the list at 73 percent, followed by blacks, Asians and non-Hispanic whites.

    Even by traditional measures, many working families are hurting.

    Following the recession that began in late 2007, the share of working families who are low income has risen for three straight years to 31.2 percent, or 10.2 million. That proportion is the highest in at least a decade, up from 27 percent in 2002, according to a new analysis by the Working Poor Families Project and the Population Reference Bureau, a nonprofit research group based in Washington.

    Among low-income families, about one-third were considered poor while the remainder — 6.9 million — earned income just above the poverty line. Many states phase out eligibility for food stamps, Medicaid, tax credit and other government aid programs for low-income Americans as they approach 200 percent of the poverty level.

    The majority of low-income families — 62 percent — spent more than one-third of their earnings on housing, surpassing a common guideline for what is considered affordable. By some census surveys, child-care costs consume close to another one-fifth.

    Shrinking paychecks

    Paychecks for low-income families are shrinking. The inflation-adjusted average earnings for the bottom 20 percent of families have fallen from $16,788 in 1979 to just under $15,000, and earnings for the next 20 percent have remained flat at $37,000. In contrast, higher-income brackets had significant wage growth since 1979, with earnings for the top 5 percent of families climbing 64 percent to more than $313,000.

    A survey of 29 cities conducted by the U.S. Conference of Mayors being released Thursday points to a gloomy outlook for those on the lower end of the income scale.
    Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Many mayors cited the challenges of meeting increased demands for food assistance, expressing particular concern about possible cuts to federal programs such as food stamps and WIC, which assists low-income pregnant women and mothers. Unemployment led the list of causes of hunger in cities, followed by poverty, low wages and high housing costs.

    Across the 29 cities, about 27 percent of people needing emergency food aid did not receive it. Kansas City, Mo., Nashville, Tenn., Sacramento, Calif., and Trenton, N.J., were among the cities that pointed to increases in the cost of food and declining food donations, while Mayor Michael McGinn in Seattle cited an unexpected spike in food requests from immigrants and refugees, particularly from Somalia, Burma and Bhutan.

    Among those requesting emergency food assistance, 51 percent were in families, 26 percent were employed, 19 percent were elderly and 11 percent were homeless.

    "People who never thought they would need food are in need of help," said Mayor Sly James of Kansas City, Mo., who co-chairs a mayors' task force on hunger and homelessness.

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    We'll have jobs again when Americans are more poor than the residents of India and China. Thats the intent.

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    I'm a firm believer in the philosophy that a man has to take responsibility for his own - and of course his dependents - well being. I've subscribed to this when down and nearly out as well as during the good times.

    Sure there are forces that are outside of your control that buffet you, and some opportunities others have that isn't accessible by you. But that is life, and rather than bitch and moan about it, which wastes your time, energy and focus, live with it and make your own way.

    It sounds like the musings of the priviledged, but I have spent many years scraping around right at the bottom of the food chain, totally broke, zero assets, homeless due to a combination of circumstance and my own actions, to be able to say my attitude to this never changed for one moment. And because of that I have been able to drag myself up again.


    I doesn't matter what 'the intent' is, which I seriously doubt, what happens to Americans and westerners in general depends on themselves, whether they like it or not.

    They've forgotten the fact that life really is about the survival of the fittest, and liberal and socialist attempts at safety nets and promoting the weak and trying to drag down the strong are temporary, not sustainable and doomed to failure.

    So Americas future depends on American's ability to take responsibility for their own well being, individually. Trying to change the system is all well and good, and I support that, it stinks. But they'll need more than that.

    I don't know if the current generation has what it takes to survive, to be honest.

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    In short, people should stop whining, worlwide, about jobs and start creating their own.

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    America is busy transferring its wealth to Asia and in particular China.

    Shhh though, don't tell the people, because when they finally realise they have nothing left, and that they have been totally shafted by asshats that they elected, they will go bananas.

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    How much money has the US spent of pointless warmongering over the last 10 years???

    Now just think if those trillions of $$$$ had been spent at home.........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    America is busy transferring its wealth to Asia and in particular China.

    Shhh though, don't tell the people, because when they finally realise they have nothing left, and that they have been totally shafted by asshats that they elected, they will go bananas.
    Transferred. Past tense.

    It's their own fault they were shafted, I have no sympathy for them I'm afraid. Except maybe they were never taught that in life you look after yourself, and to do that you take everything with a giant bag of salt, don't stick your head in the sand and take note of macro trends. That's their parent's fault.


    That's the problem with sheep. They tend to get slaughtered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    We'll have jobs again when Americans are more poor than the residents of India and China.
    C'est la vie.

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    ^^^^^ What a load of shit. The system is gamed and broken. If the poor have to spend all their time just trying to exist how the fuck are they going to get ahead?

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    ^OK. So what you're saying is the poor should hope someone is going to look after them.

    Just one instance in history, starting at the stone age, where this has actually happened?

    They'll have to get a bit creative and put that useless brain in their heads into gear I'd venture. There is no blanket formula, each has to find his own way.

    This beautiful life God created isn't quite as beautiful as they like to present. We have to eat each other to survive.

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    And they're only aware to varying degrees, how the destruction of the former Middle Class (THEIR economic vitality) has been deliberate and premeditated... some still think it's all "accidental"...

    Will Global Financial Demolition Lead To New World Order?


    Related radio interview:
    First hour
    : Interview with Richard Moore, the author cited/linked within the ^above article, then Second hour: Attorney James Otto exposes the globalist elite's plan to throw Americans out of work!:

    Friday, December 2, 2011

    Anti-NWO strategist Richard Moore, "keep American jobs" lawyer James A. Otto on TJ Radio today!

    Truth Jihad Radio Wed. 12/2/11, 3-5 pm Central, American Freedom Radio(archived here.) Call-in: (402) 237-2525 or post your questions to my Facebook page.


    First hour: Richard Moore's book Escaping the Matrix is a red pill classic, and last month's article The Elite Plan for a New World Social Order is still getting rave reviews, including this one from Boston 9/11 truth activist Rich McCampbell: "Moore’s research is solid and the best description I’ve read yet of what is actually happening in our world. He concisely summarizes our past, present and likely future." Moore's latest, Full-Spectrum Dominance and the Regime-Change Project, casts a skeptical eye on the Arab spring and the Occupy movements by putting them in historical context.

    Second hour: Attorney James Otto exposes the globalist elite's plan to throw Americans out of work!

    Did you know that the US government, and the corporations that own it, are now discriminating against American workers and bringing in millions of low-wage foreign workers to replace them?

    "In the past 20 years approximately 6,000,000 U.S. workers have been forced out of their careers and put on public welfare so that employers could replace them with foreigners." -James A. Otto

    U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video - ABC News


    From Ilene Proctor:

    The gutting of our economic democracy has been occurring for years and can be found in reams of books and volumes, of eyewitness testimony, but nowhere has the case for the theft of American jobs by banks, wall street and in corporate board rooms been laid out as brilliantly as when top Civil Rights attorney James Otto demonstrates that for the past 30 years, American firms have failed to adhere to civil rights laws. Otto declares corporations have installed surreptitious strategies to illegally discriminate against the entire American workforce...


    These discriminatory actions now practiced by U.S. employers is the reason behind
    James Otto’s pioneering lawsuit against Beasley v. Molina Healthcare, Inc., filed in Long Beach, California. 225 highly trained American workers were replaced by Molina Healthcare, Inc. and Cognizant Technology with foreign workers. The complaint alleges the company falsely swore to the Department of Labor that it was not replacing any U.S. worker by bringing in over 500 foreign workers. According to the lawsuit, the Director of Human Resources’ investigation established testimony from 160 IT employees testifying to the rampart segregation of U.S. workers; the Budget Manager has testified that Molina had plenty of work but decided to fire all U.S. workers; and two Directors of the IT Department have stated that Molina did intend to segregate all American workers out of their labor market.

    Perhaps equally egregious, the lawsuit alleges that “the entirety of Molina’s annual income comes from the U.S. taxpayer via the federal government, which pays the Medicare and Medicare claims filed by Molina’s insured. In other words, public monies fund Molina that has collected over $9 billion dollars from the U.S government just in the last three (3) years and spent a large portion of the taxpayer’s money to fire American workers and to hire an abundance of workers brought in from India.” According to the law suit “By way of Molina’s operations, several billion of U.S. taxpayer dollars have gone directly to India without any benefit to the American economy or to the U.S. taxpayer.”

    View this 2007 YouTube video that shows a national immigration law firm conducting a training seminar to a corporate audience. Listen well. They actually state "the goal is NOT to find a qualified American worker."

    Posted by Kevin Barrett at 7:11 AM 2 comments

    Labels: american workers, arab spring, conspiracy, employment discrimination, foreign workers, globalist, james a. otto, james otto, new world order, occupy movement, Richard Moore
    Here's the MP3 to listen to the show, 2 hours, advance through the commercial breaks. Moore is on first hour.
    12/02/2011 Friday - 1st Hour: With Richard Moore. 2nd Hour: With James A. Otto.

    a couple of the interesting youtube clips you'll find linked in the James Otto write-up above:

    PERM Fake Job Ads defraud Americans to secure green cards fo
    From: programmersguild | Jun 16, 2007 | 402,893 views

    Immigration attorneys from Cohen & Grigsby explains how they assist employers in running classified ads with the goal of NOT finding any qualified applicants, and the steps they go through to disqualify even the most qualified Americans in order to secure green cards for H-1b workers. See what Bush and Congress really mean by a "shortage of skilled U.S. workers." Microsoft, Oracle, Hewlett-Packard, and thousands of other companies are running fake ads in Sunday newspapers across the country each week.

    Uploaded by programmersguild on Jun 23, 2007
    A law firm is teaching corporations how to get around hiring American workers for jobs so they can import foreign workers under the H1-B visa program. Lawrence M. Lebowitz, the marketing director of the Pittsburgh law firm of Cohen & Grigsby, told executives at its Immigration Law Update Seminar how to advertise to make it look like there are no qualified U.S. workers. "Our goal clearly is not to find a qualified and interested U.S. worker," he said.

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    But, But, they are living the American dream, surely that must make up for having no money?

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    ^^Ye Gods. And then there are the nutters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    But, But, they are living the American dream, surely that must make up for having no money?

    Not to mention being exceptional and being God's children.

    Told ya all. God is a psycho.

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    ^Yeah it probably doesn't help that all their presidents talk to God, if I told people I talked to little green aliens I would be locked up in a mental institute.

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    Your shit countries will be sucking Chinas cock as well if they are not already. The fact remains that the Corporate Oligarchy has grown global tentacles. America has turned into a Dickens novel. I am glad that I am not the 1 of the 2.

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    7.1 THE FUNCTION OF POVERTY
    The standard of living of the average American has to decline...
    - Paul Volcker, Chairman of The Federal Reserve, New York Times, 18 October 1979, p.1, Volcker Asserts U.S Must Trim Living Standard.
    'Money is power'. Well, to be precise, it's the gap between the rich and poor that counts. The objective of the elite is to maintain the capitalist structure as it is with one vital difference. There will be no middle class in the New World Order. Under public-private partnership, the middle class, free markets, and consumer choice will be replaced with a neo-feudal society in which the Money Trust dictates to an impoverished populace through a supranational technocracy. This is international socialism, run for the benefit of the financial elite who own the economy and control the emerging continental Politburos. The polite name for it is 'The Third Way', but less deferential commentators call it 'corporate fascism'. The corporations need government to restrict consumer choice in the market place, allowing the cartel to determine what we can buy, sell, or even do in our own homes. The 'Third Way' is the path to utopia for our self-appointed philosopher kings, advocated by the likes of Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, and Gerhard Schroder - their senior political puppets. There is no difference between ostensibly right and left wing political parties about the eventual destination, even if they appear to be travelling at different speeds towards it.

    Real power, then, is achieved when the ruling class controls the material essentials of life, granting and withholding them as if they were privileges, as George Orwell reflected:
    From the moment when the machine first made its appearance it was clear to all thinking people that the need for human drudgery, and therefore to a great extent for human inequality, had disappeared. If the machine were used deliberately for that end, hunger, overwork, dirt, illiteracy, and disease could be eliminated within a few generations But it was also clear that an all-around increase in wealth threatened the destruction... of a hierarchical society. In a world in which everyone worked short hours, had enough to eat, lived in a house with a bathroom and a refrigerator, and possessed a motorcar or even an airplane, the most obvious and perhaps the most important form of inequality would already have disappeared. If it once became general, wealth would confer no distinction. Such a society could not long remain stable. For if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realize that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance... It is deliberate policy to keep even the favoured groups somewhere near the brink of hardship because a general state of scarcity increases the importance of small privileges and thus magnifies the distinction between one group and another... The social atmosphere is that of a besieged city, where the possession of a lump of horseflesh makes the difference between wealth and poverty.
    The difference between riches and poverty is often the difference between pleasure and pain. Orwell concluded this idea in the torture episode at the end of 1984.
    How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?' By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation... Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain.(1)
    In The Creature from Jekyll Island, G. Edward Griffin discusses the relationship between 1984 and The Report From Iron Mountain: On the Possibility and Desirability of Peace by Leonard Lewin. It has never been established whether or not this report published in 1966 was written by a U.S. government think tank or if it was an elaborate political satire. On 26 November,1967, the report was reviewed in the book section of the Washington Post by Herschel McLandress, which was the pen name for Harvard professor John Kenneth Galbraith. Galbraith, who also had been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, said that he knew firsthand of the report's authenticity because he had been invited to participate in it. Although he was unable to be part of the official group, he was consulted from time to time and had been asked to keep the project a secret. Furthermore, while he doubted the wisdom of letting the public know about the report, he agreed totally with its conclusions. For the purposes of Griffin's comparison, it makes no difference whether it is a satire. The report credits Orwell for many of its ideas and it is a blueprint for what has occurred since. Importantly, it agreed with Orwell's view that poverty is a prerequisite for a hierarchical society:
    The continuance of the war system must be assured, if for no other reason, among others, than to preserve whatever quality and degree of poverty a society requires as an incentive, as well as to maintain the stability of its internal organization of power.
    The economic destruction of the world's middle class is well advanced. Personal debt, bankruptcies, and unemployment are soaring while investments are destroyed in the stock-market and incomes decline. Like Manchurian Candidates, the Western middle class have played their essential part in creating the techno-bureaucracy of the new feudalism which will enslave them. This chapter describes seven significant methods being used to reduce living standards around the world. These are: 1. money supply and taxation; 2. free trade; 3.free movement of labour; 4. environmentalism; 5. wars; 6. the criminal justice system; and 7. disease.

    ^MORE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Your shit countries will be sucking Chinas cock as well if they are not already. The fact remains that the Corporate Oligarchy has grown global tentacles. America has turned into a Dickens novel. I am glad that I am not the 1 of the 2.

    I dunno how old you are, but to me it seems you are still filled with the heat of youth. I'm not talking about hardons.

    A bit of a throwback to Marx et al.

    For what it is worth, here's my take on 'society'. Any society.

    It keeps you caged, makes you feel warm and secure while you suck up it's particular brand of bullshit, and quietly reams you as long as you don't ask questions.


    When the shit hits the fan, for you as an individual or for the whole society around you, you will suddenly find yourself totally alone. At best you will be deserted, at worst you'll be devoured.

    ANY society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    When the shit hits the fan, for you as an individual or for the whole society around you, you will suddenly find yourself totally alone. At best you will be deserted, at worst you'll be devoured.

    ANY society.
    I wait for that moment. It will be the great equalizer. I am ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    America has turned into a Dickens novel
    Which one ?

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    Between this thread and this http://teakdoor.com/world-news/99531...ericans-2.html (Indefinite detention for Americans)
    It's starting to remind me of the movie 'They Live'.

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    ^ Hard Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    ^^Ye Gods. And then there are the nutters.
    ^ looks disturbingly like (Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest)Boxer's RULE # 5?

    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks" [or: "nutters"...], "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
    Fly, do you have any reasoned, defensible critique of the reply (#11) you've so-far dismissed with your hollow "nutter" ad-hom?

    How about your opinion of:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    When the shit hits the fan, for you as an individual or for the whole society around you, you will suddenly find yourself totally alone. At best you will be deserted, at worst you'll be devoured.

    ANY society.
    I wait for that moment. It will be the great equalizer. I am ready.
    That sounds ominous. How big is your arsenal?

    Not quite what I mean. Live in society, we are social animals after all. But never immerse yourself to the point where you are too weak to stand on your own two feet, alone, because the odds are that at some point you will have to.

    And that includes having to squeal about jobs.
    If the poor are too busy trying to survive to be able to think and plan, surely they're too busy to protest and occupy.
    Last edited by FlyFree; 16-12-2011 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    When the shit hits the fan, for you as an individual or for the whole society around you, you will suddenly find yourself totally alone. At best you will be deserted, at worst you'll be devoured.

    ANY society.
    I wait for that moment. It will be the great equalizer. I am ready.
    That sounds ominous. How big is your arsenal?
    You missed the guns thread on here I take it?

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