Thread: 'Dismal' prospects: 1 in 2 Americans are now poor or low income

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Not if whiney little biaches like bsnub

Fuck you squid. I would pummel you in person. Break you like the twig of a poofer you are. Go twiddle your lady boy.

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Don't hold back there snubbles.
Tell us what you really think!

btw, still hitch hiking to the Range are we?

Says it all, really...

^^^^ don't worry bsnub, Boxer was just taking a short break from his reading project,

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Not if whiney little biaches like bsnub, Bad Pussy & HM are the norm.

^ once again Boxer's attempting to invert reality, then fraudulently project his own whiney nature onto his opponents...

Here's what Boxer did yesterday in a thread where he was thoroughly & humiliatingly OWNED:

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Originally Posted by HansuMan

Wow, those who've followed this thread can attest, it's now been seriously gutted by some anonymous mod of (former) replies, sans explanation! There must be a dozen deleted replies here now! And the purge happened in the past 24 hours, after the thread had already gone quiet for several days.

What's been "selectively removed" is a dialog between Boxer & I, where Boxer was ducking/bobbing/weaving in an effort to avoid answering the question of how the scary mooslems managed to wire up WTC-7 for it's picture-perfect controlled demolition, which they then apparently conducted 9/11 afternoon at around 5:20 PM.

Oddly though, a few of Boxer's replies, formerly in the middle of our exchange, now still remain, standing alone unchallenged. In these replies which are still here at this writing (#s 37^^^ and 38^^, Boxer is seen employing his RULES #4 (Use a straw man), #9 (Play Dumb), #17 (Change the subject) & #20 (False evidence).

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

We are to suppose that Mohamad Atta and his merry little gang were simple stooges of the evil Jooos?

Right...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by HansuMan

and I'm still waiting to hear your glorious explanation for how Osama & the scary mooslems pulled off that feat?!

Never saw the news reports re M. Atta and his gang of merry men attending those flight schools did you, HM?

Ignored the reports of the 7th hijacker stuck in Germany due to visa problems? And, what about that other splendid individual who was captured in Minnesota trying to get into a flight school?

But please don't forget about the all-important KSM, OK? The admitted 'mastermind' directly below OBL. Heh...& furthermore, please continue to ignore OBL's words following the disaster where he states the mission exceeded all expectations.

after getting OWNED when none of his RULES were successful in avoiding the question (the only evidence remaining of our disappeared dialog is above in yellow), Boxer employed the only RULE he had left, #25 (Vanish).

I guess when you're a TD , and your shtick crashes & burns for all readers to see, you can just cry to the mods privately,

and they'll make it all go away...

There there Boxer, is it all better now?

RULE #16,

16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

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You ever get tired of being stuck on stupid there, HM?

Sad, very sad figures :

1 in 45 kids in the U.S.A. are homeless :

Number of homeless children in Louisiana on the rise - New Orleans News, Breaking News, Sports & Weather - FOX 8 Live WVUE-TV Channel 8


and

the war in Iraq has cost 1 trillion.

and the world and rellies and friends wonder why we go hide in Thailand and drink and and and...

"if it is to be it is up to me" is a my favourite fridge magnet... bought in a US dollar store...

the world is going to ..in a hand basket and there is nothing YOU can do about it..look after you and yours!! We all will die in the end anyways....

Originally Posted by Lambik

the war in Iraq has cost 1 trillion.

Good article, rich with links backing claims:

Preface: This post does not discuss whether or not 9/11 was a “false flag” operation or an “inside job”. Anything other than a discussion of the negligence of the Bush administration is unnecessary for the purposes of this essay, and is thus beyond the scope of this post.

In case you didn’t get the memo, we are currently in a depression. And see this
And given that American citizens can be indefinitely detained or assassinated at the whim of the president, it is pretty clear that we now live in a police state.

This post will demonstrate – without getting into discussions of an “inside job” one way or the other – that the failure to hold a real 9/11 investigation is a core cause of our loss of our prosperity and freedom.


The Failure to Investigate 9/11 Has Bankrupted America

Top economists say that endless war bankrupts a nation.
For example, Nobel prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz says that the $3-5 trillion spent on the Iraq war alone has been very bad for the American economy. See .

The endless wars have also been a main component of America’s soaring debt:



And huge debts exert a very real drag on the economy.

As shown below, we wouldn’t have launched the war against Iraq – or the endless panoply of wars throughout the Middle East and North America – if 9/11 had actually been in investigated.

(Even the 9/11 Commission itself admits that there was criminal obstruction of justice and a whitewash of the investigation. See this, this, this, this, and this. As such, there has never been a real investigation.)

The Police State Was Caused by the Failure to Investigate 9/11

The police state started in 2001.
Specifically, on 9/11, Vice President Dick Cheney initiated Continuity of Government Plans that ended America’s constitutional form of government (at least for some undetermined period of time.)

On that same day, a national state of emergency was declared … and that state of emergency has continuously been in effect up to today.

It is beyond dispute that 9/11 was entirely foreseeable, but – due to the extreme negligence and incompetence or lack of caring of the Bush administration (remember, I’m not getting into any other theories in this post) it wasn’t stopped. Even the chair of the 9/11 Commission said that the attack was preventable.

If there had been a real 9/11 investigation, the Bush administration’s extreme negligence would have come to light. And Americans would have learned that terrorism can largely be prevented if the military and intelligence officers are simply allowed to do their job.

As just one example, Dick Cheney was in charge of all counter-terrorism exercises, activities and responses on 9/11. See this Department of State announcement; this CNN article; and this essay.

The genius Mr. Cheney apparently scheduled 5 war games for the morning of 9/11. Specifically, on the very morning of September 11th, five war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, purportedly including one “live fly” exercise using real planes. Then-Acting Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Air Force General Richard B. Myers, admitted to 4 of the war games in congressional testimony — see transcript here or video here (6 minutes and 12 seconds into the video.

False radar blips to be inserted onto air traffic controllers’ screens as part of the war game exercises, which may have confused the heck out of them (see this December 9, 2001 Toronto Star article; pay-per-view; reprinted here). Way to let that one slip through, Mr. in-charge-of-all-war-games.

The military – under the Vice President’s command that day – didn’t scramble enough fighter jets, and then scrambled jets far over the Atlantic Ocean, in what Senator Mark Dayton called:

The most gross incompetence and dereliction of responsibility and negligence that I’ve ever, under those extreme circumstances, witnessed in the public sector.

And the knucklehead ).

Americans would have learned through any real 9/11 investigation that Cheney’s negligence and mucking around in what should have been the generals’ jobs was partly responsible for allowing 9/11 to happen.

In other words, a real 9/11 investigation would have shown Americans that 9/11 should of, could of, and would have been stopped – and that America can protect itself against future terrorist attacks – simply by playing goalie well in our country.

And Americans – instead of being scared into immobility – would have been mad at our government for dropping the ball. And we would have demanded accountability and effective service from our elected officials. (Indeed, experts have repeatedly demonstrated that fear of terror makes people stupid … and makes them willing to accept a loss of liberty and other abuses they would never otherwise accept.)

The Road Not Taken

Instead, of course, Americans were led to believe that Al Qaeda was going to get us unless we took the fight to the Middle East and North Africa. The administration pretended that Saddam Hussein had a hand in 9/11 – one of the main justifications for that war.

Had a real 9/11 investigation been conducted before we launched the Iraq war, it would have taken away one of the two main rationales for that war. (The FBI was also instructed to blame the anthrax attacks on Al Qaeda, and high-level government officials pointed towards Iraq as the source of the anthrax, even though there was absolutely no basis for those claims. But that’s another story.)

Dan Rather was right when he wrote last week:

We have been so afraid; so hell bent on destroying enemies … both foreign and domestic … we have hurt ourselves and our democracy.

Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser also told the Senate in 2007 that the war on terror is so overblown that it is “a mythical historical narrative”.

And as I noted in 2008:

Former deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats, a 23-year senior CIA analyst, who “drafted or was involved in many of the government’s most senior assessments of the threats facing our country [and who] devoted years to understanding and combating the jihadist threat”, writes today in the Washington Post that the neocons have whipped us into an irrational fear of the terrorism. In reality, “Osama bin Laden and his disciples are small men and secondary threats whose shadows are made large by our fears” and our leaders.
This is no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention. The BBC produced a documentary called The Power of Nightmares in 2005 that showed that politicians were greatly exaggerating the terrorist threat for political ends.

And unfortunately, many in government have intentionally whipped up fear in the American public for their own political purposes. For example, FBI agents and CIA intelligence officials, constitutional law expert professor Jonathan Turley, Time Magazine, Keith Olbermann and the Washington Post have all said that U.S. government officials “were trying to create an atmosphere of fear in which the American people would give them more power”.

And former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge admits that he was pressured to raise terror alerts to help Bush win reelection. Fear sells.
And because 9/11 was never really investigated, the government – instead of doing the things which could actually make us safer – are doing things which increase the risk of terrorism.

As such, the threats from terrorism form even more of a “justification” for a suspension of our Constitutional rights.
The failure to investigate 9/11 has bankrupted America financially and morally, and has allowed us to stand idly by while our liberty has been destroyed.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/the-failure-to-investigate-911-ha...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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You ever get tired of being stuck on stupid there, HM?

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You ever get tired of trying to dodge issues with your worn-out Rule #5 gambit there, Boxer?

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

I agree.
I just got back from the states.
It is so easy to make money there.
Once my friends found out I could fix small engines, 3 of them gave me (one charge me $20) for their old riding mowers. I fixed them up (one only needed the belt put back on and contacts cleaned up)
and sold each one for $500 on craigslist.
Easy money.
But nobody has the initiative to do it I guess.

Can't argue with that.
Now imagine the trillions of $ for Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel etc where invested in Vocational & Technical High Schools. Maybe Americans can fix their engines like you, better yet, maybe americans could even build a descent car.
The money belongs to the American people and should be reinvested where it came from.
But I guess your bankers are doing all the investments for you, because the americans are to dumb...or maybe not ?

U.S. drug war has met none of its goals

After 40 years and $1 trillion, drug use is rampant and violence pervasive

With our economy fighting itself out of a recession, states failing in budgets to educate our kids, and blame artists looking everywhere for a scapegoat, it’s time we took a serious look at ourselves to investigate if the problem is actually us and not some far off land. In the below article, Martha Mendoza takes a very serious look at our colossal failure and what it means to us.


40 Year $ 1 Trillion U.S. War, the Worst Failure in World History | Veterans Today

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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You ever get tired of being stuck on stupid there, HM?

Not so lonely anymore eh?

Originally Posted by FarangRed

40 Year $ 1 Trillion U.S. War, the Worst Failure in World History | Veterans Today

Hey now, don't be dissin' the War on Drugs Hoax- fact is, it's almost as wildly successful/profitable as the War on Terror Hoax, at least in the view of the satanic PTB orchestrating both sides of these global crime & protection rackets, read on:



Thursday, December 8, 2011

10 Ways the War on Drugs is a Wild Success



Eric Blair
Activist Post

For all the evidence of how the War on Drugs has failed society, there's equally as much evidence of how it is a great success to those who continue to support it. The drug war has many advantages if you wish to control society and expand your empire. It also enriches several industries that would otherwise have a very difficult time staying solvent without it.

Here are ten ways the War on Drugs is a wild success:

Military-Industrial Profits: As the Vietnam War came to an end, it struck fear into the military-industrial machine that enjoyed great profits from that conflict. In a world where contrived enemies were needed to keep a constant funding of weapons, . Thus, domestic armies were erected to combat the illegal drug trade, delivering consistent cash flow to weapons manufacturers. These companies make money, not just from the needs of the DEA, border patrol, and local police forces, but also from drug traffickers. Win-win and profits all around.

Huge Boon to Private Prisons: The private prison industry thrives off long sentences for drug offenders. At least 25% of their profits come from these nonviolent criminals. A great number more are held on "drug related" charges that may have resulted in drug violence. However, the current trend shows that three-quarters of new inmates admitted to state prisons are nonviolent offenders. Private prisons clearly depend on arresting pot smokers and addicts of more severe drugs.


Prevents Higher Unemployment Rates: Imagine if the millions of American currently jailed on drug charges were released into a job market already suffering from real unemployment numbers over 20%. Additionally, if it wasn't for drugs being illegal, countless people like DEA agents, court staff, prison guards, parole officers, drug dealers, etc would otherwise be unemployed. Thank goodness for the war on drugs, or the U.S. economy would look even worse.

Suppresses Minority Populations: It's often said that the drug war is a war on minorities: "According to the ACLU, African Americans make up an estimated 15% of drug users, but they account for 37% of those arrested on drug charges, 59% of those convicted and 74% of all drug offenders sentenced to prison. Or consider this: The U.S. has 260,000 people in state prisons on nonviolent drug charges; 183,200 (more than 70%) of them are black or Latino." So it is a huge success for those who wish to suppress minority populations.

Drives Up Prices: Making any substance illegal will result in much higher prices than a free market would dictate. Especially when there's a high demand for that substance. In the case of the cannabis plant, which grows like a weed and requires very little value added, the dried flower would virtually be free if it wasn't for the harsh restrictions and dangers involved in producing and distributing it. These high prices are terrific for drug dealers and even medical marijuana growers opposed legalization in California because it threatened their profits.

Drug Violence Justifies Tough Gun Laws: The violence generated from the prohibition of drugs is reminiscent of the extreme mob violence during the prohibition of alcohol. Prohibition of anything will always create black markets which require firearms to protect banned products. Recently, the U.S. government itself was to push for new gun control regulations. Indeed, most street violence is due to turf wars over the drug trade, and tougher gun laws are proposed as the war escalates. It's wonderful for those who blame violence on guns and wish to restrict them from law-abiding citizens.

Protects Big Pharma Monopolies: No one is happier about the war on drugs than Big Pharma. Their control over the FDA and monopoly of "controlled substances" would be threatened if all drugs were legalized. They want you addicted to their FDA-approved versions of heroin and cocaine, not something you can get on the black market. In turn, they also benefit greatly when the prices of street drugs increase, as they can then inflate the cost of their products. They love the drug war so much they've lobbied to extend it to vitamins and supplements.

Allows Proxy Armies: If you want to create an empire by force, but it's politically disadvantageous to base your army in certain countries, then the global war on drugs is your ticket to supplying troops or creating proxy armies. One of the most recent examples is Costa Rica, a peaceful country in Central America without an army, where the U.S. bribed the government to allow the Navy and Marines to be stationed off the Caribbean coast to fight the war on drugs. In other nations where even this won't be allowed, the CIA funds and arms one of the drug cartels who then act as their hired enforcers, or they're used as an excuse for governments to accept U.S. help to combat the enemy they created. In either case, the U.S. sells more arms and trains soldiers to be used upon command.

Keeps Big Banks Flush with Cash: It has long been known that big banks happily launder money for the big drug cartels. According to The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), "Up to 1.5 trillion dollars in drug money are laundered through legal enterprises, accounting for 5% of global GDP." Take just this year and one bank, Wachovia; who had to pay a slap-on-the-wrist fine for laundering more than $420 billion for Mexican drug cartels. Imagine where the big banks would be without this money, given that they also needed a bailout of over $23 trillion for lack of sufficient deposits to pay for their gambling habits.

Funds CIA Black Ops: Do you ever wonder where the U.S. government gets all that money for their secret "Black Ops" like underground bases, secret wars, corporate takeovers and seed money, etc? It's been proven over and over that the CIA (and Pentagon) controls a large majority of the illicit drug trade either directly or indirectly through proxies mentioned above. They've been caught in the act of shipping in massive amounts of cocaine, while the CIA now openly admits to protecting and facilitating the opium trade in Afghanistan. If it wasn't for this tremendous profit, the CIA would not be able to build their secret shadow government.

So, as you can see, there are great benefits to the War on Drugs depending what side of the coin you're on. If you're a poor pot smoker, well, you're out of luck. But if you're the biggest heroin and cocaine dealer in the world and desire a monopoly . . . well, you've got the world right where you want it.

Activist Post: 10 Ways the War on Drugs is a Wild Success

^ on that same subject, here's part 1 of Bill Moyers' 1987 documentary, "The Secret Government", worth watching the whole thing (87 mins, there's a full contiguous version also on YT if you're interested), pretty prophetic as to who's really in full control of the US today,



full version 87 mins:

The good ol "American Dream".

What they dreamin about these days, ladyboys I expect

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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You ever get tired of being stuck on stupid there, HM?

Not so lonely anymore eh?

There is plenty of money to be made out there, but these lazy asses expect it to be handed to them. THey think they should just gtiven things, no questions asked. Forget about skills, qualifitcations, etc; they believe they are owed these things, just because! I have a nephew in his early 20's making 60K+ after only working at PGW for a year. I have a nephew in his mid 20's making over 100K a year working at Sunoco. I making great money at my job, and got my hands in a million different pots. I got friends knocking down my door for business oppurtnities, from selling cars in Libya to making tempeh I'm even thinking of trying to get into Med school in the next couple of years if I decide I want to do something productive. Most of these broke asses would be broke under any circumstance because they are usually dysfunctional in some way; lazy, stupid, a drunk, a drug addict, mentally ill, spend all their time on the internet, spend all their time and energy jerking off to porn, waste time watching sports,etc.

Break that block of text up Gribbs,
I know you can type better than that that .

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee ('Dismal' prospects: 1 in 2 Americans are now poor or low income)
I agree.
I just got back from the states.
It is so easy to make money there.
Once my friends found out I could fix small engines, 3 of them gave me (one charge me $20) for their old riding mowers. I fixed them up (one only needed the belt put back on and contacts cleaned up)
and sold each one for $500 on craigslist.
Easy money.
But nobody has the initiative to do it I guess.

That just tells me Americans are stupid and lazy, at least your friends, Boon me.

I fixed them up (one only needed the belt put back on and contacts cleaned up) sold each one for $500 on craigslist.

FFS.

That weren't me post there Koojo - haven't been to the states in many years...

Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

they are usually dysfunctional in some way; lazy, stupid, a drunk, a drug addict, mentally ill, spend all their time on the internet, spend all their time and energy jerking off to porn, waste time watching sports,etc.

I think you just described many Teakdoor members !

Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

There is plenty of money to be made out there, but these lazy asses expect it to be handed to them. THey think they should just gtiven things, no questions asked. Forget about skills, qualifitcations, etc; they believe they are owed these things, just because! I have a nephew in his early 20's making 60K+ after only working at PGW for a year. I have a nephew in his mid 20's making over 100K a year working at Sunoco. I making great money at my job, and got my hands in a million different pots. I got friends knocking down my door for business oppurtnities, from selling cars in Libya to making tempeh I'm even thinking of trying to get into Med school in the next couple of years if I decide I want to do something productive. Most of these broke asses would be broke under any circumstance because they are usually dysfunctional in some way; lazy, stupid, a drunk, a drug addict, mentally ill, spend all their time on the internet, spend all their time and energy jerking off to porn, waste time watching sports,etc.

What a load of bullshit.

Anyway, there is some good news in all this,
look at it this way.
50% of Americans are't poor.

Originally Posted by Koojo

What a load of bullshit.

I have never read a post by Mr Gribbs that wasn't.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Koojo

What a load of bullshit.

I have never read a post by bsnub that wasn't.

Corrected for you!