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    Free legal advice for Thais

    Looking for any organisations that give free advice to Thais, have found one which is the Attorney generals Office a help line 1157.

    Any info appreciated.

    Wifes sister husband has got himself into all types of shit,regarding a home loan, and thought he would get away with not paying back the bank.

    Seems there taking him to court now, and from what i make out out, he has been a silly bstard in telling a load of porkies.

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    I think it is a winning lottery ticket he needs, not a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    Wifes sister husband has got himself into all types of shit,regarding a home loan, and thought he would get away with not paying back the bank.
    Let the fcuker stew. Typical Thai. Borrows money and doesn't want to pay it back even if they have the money.

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    ye my thoughts to, i not even really give a shit, just that the sister is ringing my wife around 20 times a day babbling the same shit and not doing anything themselves about there own problem.

    Told my wife will find info for them then tell them to sort it out themselves.

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    I asked my missus and she says there must be a courthouse in the nearest town where one can get free legal advice.
    I, in the past, have twice needed legal advice. I went both times to the same lawyer and never got charged, being as all I need was advice. May be that applies to all qualified lawyers? As far as I'm aware anyone here can claim to be a lawyer but only a certificated lawyer can represent you in a court of law.

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    Suppose he could start by selling up all his shit and making an effort to pay back some of the money he owes.

    Other than that, tough shit for him being a tosser.

    Me and you must pay our way Jacky, so does he.

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    Sure they can find it themselves if they really wanted to.

    just want the calls coming through all day everyday.

    Thanks by the way will tell wife to tell them.

    To be honest I'm pretty happy whats happening to them.

    Just hope they not think there coming here if there cleared out.

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    Seems Terry the little shit has been transferring names of motorbike and car into someone elses name but still paying for them through his bank


    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Suppose he could start by selling up all his shit and making an effort to pay back some of the money he owes.

    Other than that, tough shit for him being a tosser.

    Me and you must pay our way Jacky, so does he.

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    This may assist.
    Recovering an unpaid debt in Thailand is often a tricky task that can be made more distasteful when the debtor, whether it is Thai or a foreigner, refuses to settle even after numerous attempts. Many expatriates and even companies, who do business in Thailand, have run into difficulties with debt recovery.

    While the best initial action is to negotiate a friendly agreement to settle outstanding accounts, it is sometimes a sad reality that getting your money back requires drawing a firm line with debtors who dodge payments or try to reduce amounts even after payment conditions have already been agreed upon.

    When you have exhausted all attempts to collect in a reasonable manner, what is now your next course of action to recover a debt while in Thailand?

    Thailand Laws Related to Debt Recovery

    First, you need to determine what counts as evidence to determine whether or not a contract of loan for money can be enforced in Thailand’s courts. There are two different types of evidence depending on the amount borrowed:

    • For a loan of 2,000 baht or less, the only evidence required is that a witness give testimony that a contract was made.

    • For loans that exceed 2,000 baht, any contract should be expressed in writing. When attempting to collect a debt for said amount of money, the best piece of evidence is a document for the loan itself with the borrower’s signature.

    Other things to note about debt collection in Thailand are:

    • No compound interest can be enforced; which means that generally no interest can be accrued from existing interest. There are exceptions, however, (commercial transactions, etc.) that you will learn about upon speaking to a debt recovery lawyer.

    • If a loan has been made but no particular interest was specified, the Thai court will arrange a prescribed rate of 7.5% per annum.

    • Payment of debts made out in foreign currency can be expressed in Thai currency using the current exchange rate.

    • A debt in the form of money can be recovered if the borrower will pay via property or goods and the creditor will accept. Market value will be determined for the amount of goods for loan payment on the date of delivery.


    What are Your Next Steps towards Collecting a Debt?

    Recovering a debt in Thailand (and in any part of the world, really) may not be quick or easy, but there’s always a way. There are generally 3 steps towards completing debt collection: (1) What you should do before litigation, (2) what to do during litigation and, if the outcome was to your advantage, (3) what you should do to enforce the judgment of the Thai court.

    Step (1) happens when no agreement can be reached between creditor and debtor, and the debt remains unpaid. It is in this stage that demand letters from your legal representative are delivered to the debtor with the payment period usually fixed from 7-15 days, depending on how much the loan is. The success rate after a demand to pay is fair, and you may already get the full amount of the debt.

    If this doesn’t work and your creditor does not comply with the sent demand letters, then you can opt for litigation with the full range of possible options laid out to you by your chosen Thai lawyer who specializes on debt collection.
    Debt Collection in Thailand: Getting Your Money Back - HG.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    just that the sister is ringing my wife around 20 times a day babbling the same shit and not doing anything themselves about there own problem.
    .

    How long you been here?

    In their eyes, they are doing something to sort out the problem, its just you are too dense to see that you should be putting your hand in your pocket to bail them out.

    Sheesh. What exactly is the point in having a farang in the family if they just don't get it.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    ye my thoughts to, i not even really give a shit, just that the sister is ringing my wife around 20 times a day babbling the same shit and not doing anything themselves about there own problem.

    Told my wife will find info for them then tell them to sort it out themselves.
    Not been hit with the "Oh we will lend them the money to clear it all up" line yet then?

    Wash your hands of it. Only one reason they are calling your missus and not the others in the family. You, farang, must be loaded so pay up.

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    Thats why I'm happy its come to this, borrowed them money years ago.

    You could say its payback time.

    They would never even mention money to wife, there not welcome here.

    Caused a lot of shit between my wife and I

    A friend of mine in BKK many years ago had friends who could of got the debt back, he was lucky then i never pursued the debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Thats why I'm happy its come to this, borrowed them money years ago.

    You could say its payback time.

    They would never even mention money to wife, there not welcome here.

    Caused a lot of shit between my wife and I

    A friend of mine in BKK many years ago had friends who could of got the debt back, he was lucky then i never pursued the debt.
    Tell him to plead guilty and do a year in prison. Job done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    In their eyes, they are doing something to sort out the problem, its just you are too dense to see that you should be putting your hand in your pocket to bail them out.
    Agreed. Yaso you're on a sticky wicket. If you don't help them you'll probably fall out with the missus over them. Help them and they'll be back again in the future. Time to flip that coin.

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    Nah no way she will help them again, she's really wised up over the years, took her a long time to see there was a lot of dirt bags around her.

    Anything she does now she makes a profit not a loss.

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    good idea I could supply the debitors with info what he's done, get the fucker done for fraud as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Thats why I'm happy its come to this, borrowed them money years ago.

    You could say its payback time.

    They would never even mention money to wife, there not welcome here.

    Caused a lot of shit between my wife and I

    A friend of mine in BKK many years ago had friends who could of got the debt back, he was lucky then i never pursued the debt.
    Tell him to plead guilty and do a year in prison. Job done.

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    Sounds more like fraud than bad debts, criminal charges.
    He can say hello to my FIL, who is currently being held in Ubon prison on no bail remand.

    Got to remember, no tomorrows out here, enough time passes, banks, courts and police will just forget. Stupid people living in the old ways, pay a bribe and the paper work gets lost, but not any more. Jim

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    Neither a borrower nor a lender be....

    How many times have we witness all of this type of Thai drama.
    All too common.

    Most loans of every endeavour are usually not necessary for their lives, except with the dream that they procure, yet don't secure any foresight about built debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Most loans of every endeavour are usually not necessary for their lives, except with the dream that they procure, yet don't secure any foresight about built debt.
    Steady on. You're beginning to sound like David44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Steady on. You're beginning to sound like David44
    I'm sure he has had much lower accusations levelled at him. Bullet proof and water proof is Jeff.


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    I believe leading American advocate Mr Noise is at large

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    Its all a big sewer probably safer to have him posted to inactive borrowing in lao one way ticket

    Or maybe mother stabber

    Quebec killer wins right to become lawyer - The Globe and ...
    Home - The Globe and Mail › News › National The Globe and Mail
    Jul 7, 2006 - But Sébastien Brousseau has finally prevailed in his decade-long ... before moving to Thailand and teaching at a grade school in Roi Et.

    Meet our team - Isaan Lawyers
    Meet our team
    Isaan Lawyers is composed of foreign and Thai lawyers able to serve you in English. We try to work ... to our Law firm: Mr Sebastian H. Brousseau is Canadian.
    I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day but I couldn’t find any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Its all a big sewer probably safer to have him posted to inactive borrowing in lao one way ticket

    Or maybe mother stabber

    Quebec killer wins right to become lawyer - The Globe and ...
    Home - The Globe and Mail › News › National The Globe and Mail
    Jul 7, 2006 - But Sébastien Brousseau has finally prevailed in his decade-long ... before moving to Thailand and teaching at a grade school in Roi Et.

    Meet our team - Isaan Lawyers
    Meet our team
    Isaan Lawyers is composed of foreign and Thai lawyers able to serve you in English. We try to work ... to our Law firm: Mr Sebastian H. Brousseau is Canadian.

    The Isaan Lawyers group have a firm reputation for being extraordinarily expensive considering the services that they offer.

    Quality purveyors, yet not cheap for the average Thai or in Jacko's case, a tightwad Farang.

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    Your talking gibberish Jeff again, Issan lawyers are supposed to be pretty fair in there pricing maybe you just listen to gossip like many do because of the persons past.

    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Its all a big sewer probably safer to have him posted to inactive borrowing in lao one way ticket

    Or maybe mother stabber

    Quebec killer wins right to become lawyer - The Globe and ...
    Home - The Globe and Mail › News › National The Globe and Mail
    Jul 7, 2006 - But Sébastien Brousseau has finally prevailed in his decade-long ... before moving to Thailand and teaching at a grade school in Roi Et.

    Meet our team - Isaan Lawyers
    Meet our team
    Isaan Lawyers is composed of foreign and Thai lawyers able to serve you in English. We try to work ... to our Law firm: Mr Sebastian H. Brousseau is Canadian.

    The Isaan Lawyers group have a firm reputation for being extraordinarily expensive considering the services that they offer.

    Quality purveyors, yet not cheap for the average Thai or in Jacko's case, a tightwad Farang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Your talking gibberish Jeff again, Issan lawyers are supposed to be pretty fair in there pricing maybe you just listen to gossip like many do because of the persons past.

    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Its all a big sewer probably safer to have him posted to inactive borrowing in lao one way ticket

    Or maybe mother stabber

    Quebec killer wins right to become lawyer - The Globe and ...
    Home - The Globe and Mail › News › National The Globe and Mail
    Jul 7, 2006 - But Sébastien Brousseau has finally prevailed in his decade-long ... before moving to Thailand and teaching at a grade school in Roi Et.

    Meet our team - Isaan Lawyers
    Meet our team
    Isaan Lawyers is composed of foreign and Thai lawyers able to serve you in English. We try to work ... to our Law firm: Mr Sebastian H. Brousseau is Canadian.

    The Isaan Lawyers group have a firm reputation for being extraordinarily expensive considering the services that they offer.

    Quality purveyors, yet not cheap for the average Thai or in Jacko's case, a tightwad Farang.
    Of course, you've personal experience with these jokers.....I'm sure, Jacko.

    [supposed to be] Presumptions.


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