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Old 04-10-2009, 03:09 AM   #281 (permalink)
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On The Media: Transcript of "A New Privilege" (September 25, 2009)




On the Media from NPR (National Public Radio)

A New Privilege
September 25, 2009

The state secrets privilege allows the government to ask judges to dismiss trials for national security reasons. Civil libertarians say the government abuses the privilege in order to avoid lawsuits. On Wednesday, Attorney General Eric Holder laid out the ways President Obama will reform the privilege, but lawyer and professor Jonathan Turley says the reforms don't go far enough.



JONATHAN TURLEY: If George Bush had proposed this type of change, then the newspapers would have been all over it, asking experts, people who've litigated in this area, whether this is a real change, whether this is substantive, and, more importantly, what was left out.

What you saw here, as we've seen in other cases, like the torture area, is that the media immediately picks up with the White House spin. There’s very little effort to look at what of substance is here and what is not here. And when you look at it, you realize that this is a bit of a Potemkin village (Potemkin village: something that seems impressive but in fact lacks substance). It has all of the façade of procedures but not much of the depth.

Reporters did, I thought, a very fine job in questioning the Bush Administration about whether fine-sounding words actually had equally fine substance. But none of that has occurred here. The media is just assuming that President Obama is on the side of the angels.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:20 AM   #282 (permalink)
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^ Well, the main media ditched the Van Jones and ACORN stories until they could not hide them any longer. Heard the NYT buried the Letterman story in the business section.
The leftie bloggers are sure pushing their agenda tho, and spewing vitriole and puke all along the way.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:52 PM   #283 (permalink)
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Heard the NYT buried the Letterman story in the business section.
is that what you 'heard' jet?

because i SAW it on their homepage yesterday.....and you'll never believe what else....i actually read it. yes jet, that's right. i actually read the article i'm posting about it. not just parroting what i 'heard' on foxnews....you might want to give this a try sometime.
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:38 PM   #284 (permalink)
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^ But she "heard that...."

Serious question, Jet.

Where did you "hear" this?

I've supposed for some time, that you listen to political talk radio.
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Old 05-10-2009, 03:34 AM   #285 (permalink)
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Here's the article in the NYT business pages. Sorry, I don't have a hard copy. Didn't figure a sex scandal and extortion charge would be relegated to the biz pages.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/bu.../03extort.html
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Old 05-10-2009, 04:18 AM   #286 (permalink)
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Buried or not, Jet. Its a bit lenghty to bury anywhere

I do not alltogether disagree with you. He has dished it out many times. Now its his turn. Comedian or not
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^ Just strange it was in the biz pages; it's not like it has anything to do with his Worldwide Pants Company's quarterly business performance unless that is connected with his sexual permormance.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:27 AM   #288 (permalink)
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How will Shep Smith keep his job at FOX?

"Every vote against the public option is a vote for the insurance companies," Smith said.


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Old 08-10-2009, 05:59 AM   #289 (permalink)
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You make it sound as if Smith's statements are out of the ordinary. Why?
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:03 AM   #290 (permalink)
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Morales was on the air three times that morning. Each of her reports varied slightly but were along the same line.


Morning Joe


MORALES: The first lady wearing gold already. That's how confident...

MORALES: A lot of confidence here from the Chicago delegation, uh, particularly after the president and first lady made such a passionate and emotional appeal to the IOC voters here. It really seems at this point, uhh, if I'm quoting a couple of sports writers that I talked to that is really Chicago's to lose now that the president has spoken and the first lady made such a lasting impression here. Uh, you know, it -- it remains to be seen what will happen in the next couple of hours because it's scheduled to go for a vote about 12:30 Eastern time but, uh, a lot of people feeling like this is Chicago's time.


MORALES: Oh, it was crazy. We -- in the press we were all standing there waiting to see if the president and first lady would even walk by us! But he kind of got stuck behind a wall as, uh, the IOC pretty much rushed him. Everybody seemed to really want their picture with the president, shaking hands; and of course the IOC voters trying to appear somewhat impartial but you could tell that they, too --

ANCHOR: (giggling)

MORALES: -- felt the rock star power there that the president and first lady were exuding.





The POTUS does not have rock star status. Obama the 2008 campaigner, ok, POTUS, no.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:30 AM   #291 (permalink)
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You make it sound as if Smith's statements are out of the ordinary. Why?
Smith’s views on health care (in the video I posted) seem to be out of line with the (most of) rest of the FOX News commentators, from what I have heard listening to FOX News.
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Old 08-10-2009, 07:54 AM   #292 (permalink)
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I understand you're comparing Shepard's reporting to O'Reilly or Hannity's shows, while I'm comparing the example you provided to previous editorializing I've seen on Shepard's part. It's not uncommon for Smith to editorialize during his reporting. He does it often enough that his liberal leanings are recognizable. He hasn't been fired yet.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:39 PM   #293 (permalink)
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Heh...don't this hit it on the head or what? What the Liberal Lamestream Media wanted to print after that whacked-out Muslim Al Quieda wannabee capped our brave soldiers at Ft. Hood the other day:

Newsweek: Inevitably, Another Soldier Snaps : Newsroom experts: stress, violence, stupidity, tragedy a way of life for GIs

Los Angeles Times: Fort Hood: Another Black Eye For Teabagger Movement: Like many Town Hall protesters, Hassan motivated by rage, pattern baldness

MSDNC: Investigation: Ft. Hood Killer Had Access to Fox, Talk Radio, Right-Wing Blogs: Defiant Palin rejects calls to apologize

Rolling Stone: 'Ozriel': Portrait of a Bullies' Target: Sensitive, artistic outsider said ostracized by Army jocks, "in crowd"

NPR: No Country For Old Men: From Fort Hood to Waco to Dealey Plaza to Bush Compound, death is a way of life in the Lone Star State (Download Morning Edition's exclusive in-depth podcast, complete with mournful banjo dirge interlude)

New York Times: Lessons of Ft. Hood: Military Bases Need More Mental Health Professionals

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Old 11-11-2009, 01:41 AM   #294 (permalink)
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^ I am skeptical of the headlines.

Were they actually used.

Where is, "ripped from here" Boon?

Please list the source.

I read the papaer every day and night and I never saw that.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:45 AM   #295 (permalink)
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^ I am skeptical of the headlines.

Were they actually used.

Where is, "ripped from here" Boon?

Please list the source.

I read the papaer every day and night and I never saw that.
Gee whiz M/M, just roll your mouse over the "here" will ya?
BTW, it's satire...
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:10 AM   #296 (permalink)
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Semper Fi, Happy Birthday US Marines!!!! Yeah!!!
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Where's the Palin on Newsweek's Cover Thread? 555

This is too good to pass on. Newsweek stealing their cover photo of Palin in running gear that was initially shot for Running World. OK, they got it from a stock photographer, but gee, did they fire all their own photogs already? Well, the mag will sell alot of issues! How slovenly of Newsweek tho to revert to yet more personal attacks against Republicans like Palin. Looking more like a tabloid everyday. I wonder if the National Enquirer is worried?

The poor libbies just loathe Palin and they can't attack her on anything substantive so they, like the libbies on our board, resort to seething personal attacks. Takes people's minds off healthcare and what a dufus Obama is making of himself and the country overseas.

Ah, and her book will also be on the NYT best seller list for months, too. Poor libbies gnashing their teeth in frustration.


"Newsweek" Palin Cover a Big Controversy: "Newsweek" Clarifies Thought Process - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

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they can't attack her on anything substantive
this is a joke, right?
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:21 AM   #299 (permalink)
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^^

Jet, I'll have to say this again, for the umpteenth time:

It's not just libs. Moderate conservatives in the GOP loathe Palin and she has alienate many in the GOP.

She hurts the Repubs.
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^ True, MM, some GOPers hate her. But, she is the most talked about of any of 'em. And what did Rahm say, make use of a crisis?
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