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    Tea Party Convention

    Want to go to the Tea Party, convention? It's $549 per ticket.

    Palin will get $100,000 as a speaking fee.

    Mainstream money-movement that is attracting the sheep: a far cry from the orginal Tea Parties that were started in 2007, and were non-partisan.

    Not so, today.

    Tea Party disputes take toll on convention

    Critics say $549 per ticket event is out of reach for many supporters

    By Kate Zernike
    Jan. 26, 2010

    A Tea Party convention billed as the coming together of the grass-roots groups that began sprouting up around the country a year ago is unraveling as sponsors and participants pull out to protest its expense and express concerns about “profiteering.”
    The convention’s difficulties highlight the fractiousness of the Tea Party groups, and the considerable suspicions among their members of anything that suggests the establishment.

    The convention, to be held in Nashville in early February, made a splash by attracting big-name politicians. (Former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska is scheduled to deliver the keynote speech.) But some groups have criticized the cost — $549 per ticket and a $9.95 fee, plus hotel and airfare — as out of reach for the average tea partier. And they have balked at Ms. Palin’s speaking fee, which news reports have put at $100,000, a figure that organizers will not confirm or deny.
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    Tea Party events exploded last winter, as increasingly large gatherings protested the federal stimulus bill, government bailouts and proposed health care legislation. While they vary by name, specific tenets and relative embrace of anarchy, such groups tend to unite around fiscal conservatism and a belief that the federal government — whether led by Republicans or Democrats — has overstepped its constitutional powers.

    Tea Party Nation, the convention organizer, started as a social networking site for the groups last year, a kind of Facebook for conservatives to “form bonds, network and make plans for action.” But its founders, former sponsors and participants are now trading accusations.

    'Profiteering and exploitation'

    Philip Glass, the national director of the National Precinct Alliance, announced late Sunday that “amid growing controversy” around the convention, his organization would no longer participate. His group seeks to take over the Republican Party from the bottom by filling the ranks of local and state parties with grass-roots conservatives, and Mr. Glass had been scheduled to lead workshops on its strategy.

    “We are very concerned about the appearance of T.P.N. profiteering and exploitation of the grass-roots movement,” he said in a statement. “We were under the impression that T.P.N. was a nonprofit organization like N.P.A., interested only in uniting and educating Tea Party activists on how to make a real difference in the political arena.”

    Mr. Glass said he was also concerned about the role in the convention of groups like Tea Party Express, which has held rallies across the country through two bus tours, and FreedomWorks, a Tea Party umbrella. He called them “Republican National Committee-related groups,” and added, “At best, it creates the appearance of an R.N.C. hijacking; at worst, it is one.”

    Erick Erickson, the editor of the influential conservative blog RedState.com, wrote this month that something seemed “scammy” about the convention. And the American Liberty Alliance withdrew as a sponsor after its members expressed concerns about the convention’s finances being channeled through private bank accounts and its organizer being “for profit.”
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    Tea party Nation is a for profit corporation owned by one Judson Phillips. He dishonestly used volunteer labour to get his website and fund raising up and running- without telling them he was setting up a for profit corporation, owned by himself. But it gets worse-

    he used his wife’s personal PayPal account in April 2009 to accept donations for Tea Party Nation. The PayPal account he claims he has always used for all ticket sales and donations wasn’t even set up until August 21, 2009

    Phillips filed personal bankruptcy in 1999 and has since had three federal tax leins against him for more than $22,000.

    http://superkev.net/2010/01/17/prove...inancial-past/

    And Sarah Palins speaking fee is $115,00 plus $10,000 expenses. Republican buckrakers.


    Tami Killmarx said that she heard Phillips say more than once, “I want to make a million from this movement.”
    BREAKING: Tea Party Nation’s Judson Phillips: “I Want To Make A Million From This Movement” Blog Entry Dr. Melissa Clouthier

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    I heard about this, but thought the tickets were $350, which is still outrageous. $100K for a speech is about avg for also-rans. Hope nobody attends.

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    ^ Agreed, Jet. The movement has been co-opted. Another movement has to be formed, but the problem is, what happened with the Tea Party movement, may happen with any new one.

    There is no independence.....when these movements are co-opted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    tickets were $350
    For $350, you get to hear Palin at the Gala dinner, but not attend the rest of the conference.

    According to their website, the weekend conference is booked out, but still tickets available for the Palin gala.

    At the end of the day, the GOP does not want a 'grass roots' movement at all. They've been bilked from the beginning.
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    ^ Fek, I can get her book at the library for free. Probably see her when we go moose hunting next fall. Bolloski with all these politicos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    At the end of the day, the GOP does not want a 'grass roots' movement at all. They've been bilked from the beginning.

    Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has become the latest to pull out of a scheduled speaking gig at the controversial National Tea Party Convention next year.

    Like Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) earlier today, Bachmann's office cited concerns about the event's financial arrangements. Some Tea Partiers have accused the convention's organizer, Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation, of seeking to profit from the confab.

    Pulling it out
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Mainstream politicians from one of the major parties, hurts the credibility of the Tea Party. 9 GOP lawmakers voted against Medicare-D, but the Tea Party is associated with the Tea Party? Not wise.

    The for profit status, also diminishes this already dying fad.
    Tea Party Convention loses speakers, steam

    Two lawmakers cancel appearances; Palin will still headline event

    Minnesota Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann is one of two lawmakers who have cancelled appearances at the Tea Party Convention, scheduled for early February in Nashville, Tenn.
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    Jan. 29, 2010

    NEW YORK - A planned convention of Tea Party activists lost two prominent speakers Thursday, the latest sign of disagreement over how best to showcase the movement's growing political force.

    Republican Reps. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee canceled their appearances after being billed as speakers at the gathering next week in Nashville, Tenn. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin remains a headline speaker at the event.
    Both Bachmann and Blackburn have been strong supporters of the Tea Party movement, a loose confederation of conservative activists who opposed the federal bailouts of the financial system and auto giants GM and Chrysler, as well as President Barack Obama's proposed health care overhaul and the $787 billion stimulus plan he championed. Tea partiers also helped Republican Scott Brown win a Massachusetts Senate seat long held by Democrat Edward M. Kennedy.


    The convention had attracted several sponsorships from Tea Party affiliate groups.

    But other tea partiers have openly balked at the $550 ticket price and $100,000 fee being paid to Palin for the keynote address, saying the high prices are contrary to the movement's grass-roots image and preclude many activists from attending
    . Palin told FOX News Thursday that she still intends on appearing and that speaker's fee she receives will "go right back into the cause" through future donations to candidates and events.

    "You betcha I'm going to be there," Palin said.

    In separate statements released by their congressional offices, Bachmann and Blackburn said appearing at the convention might conflict with House ethics rules. But they also said they had concerns about how money raised from the event would be spent.

    Blackburn said she had spoken to Judson Phillips, a Nashville lawyer who organized the convention, and told him that the gathering's "for-profit status has put many of his speakers in an awkward position."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Minnesota Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann is one of two lawmakers who have cancelled appearances at the Tea Party Convention
    Two nuts drop out of teabagging.

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    what a bunch of rubes....caught up in what was so clearly an orchestrated, astro-turf campaign,

    and what's so ironic is that many of the knuckleheads who identify as teabaggers would benefit greatly from obama's policy proposals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    what a bunch of rubes....caught up in what was so clearly an orchestrated, astro-turf campaign,
    The movement has been co-opted.

    TV show hosts that want rating and attention have jumped on board. Mainstream (establishment) politicians have jumped on board.

    and what's so ironic is that many of the knuckleheads who identify as teabaggers would benefit greatly from obama's policy proposals.
    That is largely true.

    There is a warped sense of political identity in the US.

    It think there is marketing of the "God, Guns, and Flag" demobraphic.

    High school educated semi-rural and rural whites that do non-union working class jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    The movement has been co-opted.
    I am not so sure it has been co-opted as much as exposed for the scam it is.

    Remember when they were going to Washington to protest gubmint spending and then biatched about the DC metro system? They have no clue

    Tea Party Protesters Protest D.C. Metro Service - Washington Wire - WSJ
    bibo ergo sum
    If you hear the thunder be happy - the lightening missed.
    This time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula
    Remember when they were going to Washington to protest gubmint spending and then biatched about the DC metro system? They have no clue


    Stick a fork in their ass and flip 'em over. They're done.

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    as a political organization, yes, they are likely done....but there are still a lot of angry middle aged white guys out there, and they'll still have an influence on election day....but it won't be what they imagine....all they're going to do is split the conservative vote, and make it easier for dems to hold or take the seats....look at NY-23 as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    all they're going to do is split the conservative vote, and make it easier for dems to hold or take the seats....look at NY-23 as an example.
    Or coerce the GOP into running teabagger-approved candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ Fek, I can get her book at the library for free. Probably see her when we go moose hunting next fall. Bolloski with all these politicos.
    Hell We can just watch re-runs of Tina Fey on SNL for free... Lets face it... Tina Fey was sometimes more lucid as Palin than Palin actually was...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
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    as a political organization, yes, they are likely done....but there are still a lot of angry middle aged white guys out there, and they'll still have an influence on election day....but it won't be what they imagine....all they're going to do is split the conservative vote, and make it easier for dems to hold or take the seats....look at NY-23 as an example.
    Ray
    Are you forgetting the African Americans who were a part of some of those tea parties to.? How convenient....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    High school educated semi-rural and rural whites that do non-union working class jobs.
    Oh, so folks are smart if they are primary school educated, semi-rural or a ghetto-raised gnat as long as they work for a union and are registered Dems? 5555555555555

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    High school educated semi-rural and rural whites that do non-union working class jobs.
    Oh, so folks are smart if they are primary school educated, semi-rural or a ghetto-raised gnat as long as they work for a union and are registered Dems? 5555555555555
    No, I don't believe being "smart" or "intelligent" is related to education. Not at all.

    But there is a demographic of the high-school education non-union white folks in semi-rural and rural areas that go for the Palin-style movement.

    And these people - in this demographic - have been beaten up for the last few decades as their standard of living and income has declined.

    Palin targeted this demographic - it was a political strategy - and it didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AjarnJonesy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    ^
    as a political organization, yes, they are likely done....but there are still a lot of angry middle aged white guys out there, and they'll still have an influence on election day....but it won't be what they imagine....all they're going to do is split the conservative vote, and make it easier for dems to hold or take the seats....look at NY-23 as an example.
    Ray
    Are you forgetting the African Americans who were a part of some of those tea parties to.? How convenient....
    no, i didn't forget. and it's wholly disingenuous for you to imply that they played a significant role.

    i'd wager that less than 1% of those who self identify as tea baggers or attend rallys are not white.

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    It has started,…………………………






    Tom Tancredo has put his sweaty nativist finger squarely on The Problem With Democracy Today:

    And then, something really odd happened, mostly because I think that we do not have a civics literacy test before people can vote in this country. People who could not even spell the word “vote,” or say it in English, put a committed socialist idealogue in the White House, name is Barack Hussein Obama.




    Granted, everything after that first sentence is insane racist gibberish, but aside from that, perhaps he has a point. Would it really be such a terrible idea to administer some sort of test to ensure that only people with at least a passing acquaintance with reality can vote for the government officials who have such a huge impact on our lives?

    Here, I’ll throw out some possible sample questions to get the ball rolling:

    1) Was Saddam Hussein responsible for 9/11?

    2) At the time of the invasion, did Iraq possess weapons of mass destruction?

    3) At the time of the invasion, was Saddam Hussein harboring al Qaeda in the regions under his direct control?

    4) Were there any successful terrorist attacks on the United States between 9/11/01 and 1/20/09?

    5) Was Barack Obama born in the United States?

    6) Is Barack Obama a Christian or a Muslim?

    7) Is Barack Obama a committed socialist ideologue?

    8) Does Barack Obama hate white people?

    9) Does Barack Obama want to kill your grandmother?

    10) Is liberalism a form of fascism?

    11) Do tax cuts increase or decrease government revenue?

    12) Is Medicare a government program?

    13) Is homosexuality a lifestyle choice? Is it contagious?

    14) Are all gay people pedophiles and/or “recruiters” for the gay lifestyle?

    15) Is abstinence-only sex education more effective at preventing teen pregnancies and STDs than comprehensive sex education with a pro-abstinence message?

    16) Is the Earth thousands of years old, or billions of years old?

    17) Did life on Earth evolve naturally, or was it created as is?

    18) Are human carbon emissions causing global climate change?

    19) Do scientists and academics contribute anything useful to society?

    20) Is individual voter fraud a widespread epidemic that is distorting our electoral process?

    It’s true that many of these questions would have the entirely incidental and unintended effect of disproportionately disenfranchising conservative and Republican voters, but doesn’t that seem like a small price to pay for an electorate that makes rational and well-informed decisions about who should run the country?

    Welcome to the Club

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    Teabaggers, remain leaderless, decentralised and inneffectual. Sarah said so herself :-

    The former Alaska governor urged the tea party activists to remain leaderless and decentralized, saying the effort that arose as a protest movement last spring is "bigger than any king or queen of the tea party."

    "Put your faith in ideas. I caution against allowing this movement to be defined by one leader or operation," she said. "This is about the people."


    You are the Stormtroops, the Waffen SS of the grassroots Right

    The roughly 600 people who attended the full convention were overwhelmingly white, older and disproportionately from neighboring states.

    Don't worry about Judson Phillips, or the fact that Tennessee Teabaggers boycotted the conference and are disgusted with Him-

    Phillips, a Nashville attorney who has been active in local Republican politics, said he did not expect to make much money off the convention and that any profit "would probably go back into future events to further the cause." Another convention is planned for July, he said.

    Or Sarah, of course-

    In a recent opinion piece in USA Today, Palin said she would put her speaker's fee -- which sources put at more than $100,000 -- back to "the cause."

    Sarah Palin to Tea Party Convention: 'This is about the people' - latimes.com



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    ^ I don't think the folks at the Boston Tea Party were very organised either. The Tea Party has two main objectives right now, as I know it: fiscal responsibility and smaller govt. Hek, the Dems don't know where they're going and they're the party in power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    And these people - in this demographic - have been beaten up for the last few decades as their standard of living and income has declined.

    Palin targeted this demographic - it was a political strategy - and it didn't work.
    Whaaaat? So they didn't get the ACLU support and the inner city bennies like the black folks did? I'm still searching for scholarships and benefit programmes for po white kids from the trailer parks. Have you found any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ I don't think the folks at the Boston Tea Party were very organised either. The Tea Party has two main objectives right now, as I know it: fiscal responsibility and smaller govt. Hek, the Dems don't know where they're going and they're the party in power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    And these people - in this demographic - have been beaten up for the last few decades as their standard of living and income has declined.

    Palin targeted this demographic - it was a political strategy - and it didn't work.
    Whaaaat? So they didn't get the ACLU support and the inner city bennies like the black folks did? I'm still searching for scholarships and benefit programmes for po white kids from the trailer parks. Have you found any?
    First, I'm talking about the demographic I stated in the post.

    You are talking about a completely different demographic.

    The focus on my post is on the standard of living and declining incomes

    In my hometown I know many people that fit the demographic I'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    all they're going to do is split the conservative vote, and make it easier for dems to hold or take the seats....look at NY-23 as an example.
    Or coerce the GOP into running teabagger-approved candidates.
    Yep, the Democratic strategists undoubtedly hope that the teabaggers get so many proto-fascists elected as Republicans that it will even make the Democrats look viable. The teabaggers are nothing more than Republicans on a bad acid trip. The Tea Party Nation conventioners looked stupid, fat, angry, suburban and white. Unlike like the original rebels who overthrew the British, these dipshits want to spend more on foreign wars and seem intent on shoving their anti-abortion social agenda down everyone's throat. The only thing they got right is the anti-Wall Street rhetoric. It's really depressing that the only party available to counteract the teabagger nutcases are the thoroughly corrupt Democrats.
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