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blackgang · 27-07-2009, 09:11 PM

Not a trick of memory, but just not important enough to make an impression.

Jet Gorgon · 28-07-2009, 05:51 AM

^ True.

Here's an ending to a Bloomberg op piece today. (The rest is largely a rehash of the Gates arrest).

“Once you’re yelling at a police officer in front of the public,” says Peter Moskos, a criminologist at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, “it’s no surprise he got locked up. Cops don’t lose face.”
Minorities probably are disproportionately arrested for contempt of cop. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer concluded that in a report last year.
But in the Gates-Crowley encounter, only one of them indisputably had race on his mind from the start. And it wasn’t Crowley.

Obama Tilts Harvardâ€™s Gates Bust Away From Reality: Ann Woolner - Bloomberg.com

Jet Gorgon · 29-07-2009, 04:52 AM

I found it interesting that several media initially accused the 911 caller as racist for sayig two "black" men were trying to bust into the house. Not true as the tapes were released and proved she did not -- she even called them "gentlemen". But, the dispatcher asked her if the men were white, black or hispanic. Hey! What about Asians, Indians, Arabs...

chitown · 29-07-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Norton

The President of the US has no business poking his nose into this kind of issue. Rather than making a statement on any issue without knowing all the facts, no remarks should be uttered. A simple, "no comment" response would have been best.

"Many police officers across the country have a message for President Barack Obama: Get all the facts before criticizing one of our own. Obama's public criticism that Cambridge officers "acted stupidly" when they arrested black Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. could make it harder for police to work with people of color, some officers said Thursday."

Obama remark on black scholar's arrest angers cops - Yahoo! News

Nothing new for Obama and his side kick VP. They talk without having all the information. Same thing with their policies.

raycarey · 30-07-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Check any state law in America. You treat a policeman with disrespect and they can charge you.

will you ever stop making things up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I am right sore with you lot for not reading the bladdy police reports I posted.

yeah, let's take a look at that police report and the lies contained within....

Quote:

The woman whose 911 call led to the arrest of Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. spoke publicly for the first time about the case Wednesday, contradicting the arresting police officer on a key point

Quote:

A police report said the caller described the possible burglars as "two black males with backpacks" — leading some commentators to vilify the caller as racist since it turned out Gates was entering his own home.

But the 911 recording released by police showed that Lucia Whalen never said two black men were involved. She did not describe their race, acknowledged they might just be having a hard time with the door and said she saw two suitcases on the porch.

crowley acted stupidly.....and then lied in the police report to cover his stupidity....and cambridge police department covered its own ass by dropping the charges.

Quote:

The arresting officer, Sgt. James Crowley, has said his information on the race of the suspects came during a brief encounter with Whalen outside Gates' house. Whalen contradicted that Wednesday, saying she made no such description and that the only words he uttered were for her to stay where she was.

i hope she files some sort of suit against this lying cop..

911 caller in Gates case contradicts cop - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com

Dug · 30-07-2009, 09:35 AM

^ You're an idiot.
You remind me of Niel from 'the young 'ones'
Yeah man, fuck the pigs.

DrivingForce · 30-07-2009, 12:38 PM

^don't tell him that, he'll proudly use it on his next CV..

raycarey · 30-07-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dug

You're an idiot.

well, needless to say, i'm devastated.

btw, no comment about the cop lying on the police report?

thought not.

Boon Mee · 31-07-2009, 11:51 PM

So the beer thing didn't end it, eh?

Black cop in Gates arrest sends letter to Obama about being called an “Uncle Tom”.

Storekeeper · 01-08-2009, 12:06 AM

Jesse Jackson: "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery -- then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." There ARE important racial differences.

helge · 01-08-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon Check any state law in America. You treat a policeman with disrespect and they can charge you.

Have a look, Jet
From Liberal viever. (Better go get a bucket

)

YouTube - Stupid to Arrest Harvard Prof. Henry Louis Gates, Jr.?

Jet Gorgon · 01-08-2009, 02:45 AM

^ 555 Actually, the vid missed two other Fox shows on this, one which interviewed a black lawyer who was a homocide cop for many years -- he said Crowley had every right to cuff the guy; another, which the left would lap up and made me roll my eyes, was that Italian judge anchor, who said Crowley did NOT have reason to go into the house at all.
First Amendment rights allow folks to hurl verbal insults and slurs at police? Hmmm. Would dispute that, even if this youtube guy purports to be a lawyer (how do we know?).
That npr black chick talking about how her brothers were coached to do whatever police totld them is just racial stirring. My folks told me the same thing -- ie, never sass anyone in authority, especially police. Always show them respect.
So, if the police did not respond to that 911 call, or just said "OK" when Crowley said he lived there, that's not doing their job. Why have 911 otherwise?
I still believe Obama was way in the wrong for saying what he did, and he still owes the country an apology for stirring up sh*t.

helge · 01-08-2009, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

First Amendment rights allow folks to hurl verbal insults and slurs at police? Hmmm.

Yes, amazes me too. But apparantly not a crime

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

That npr black chick talking about how her brothers were coached to do whatever police totld them is just racial stirring. My folks told me the same thing -- ie, never sass anyone in authority, especially police. Always show them respect.

Yes, kind of agree. Would never bow my head though. Here you can reason and argue with them, but you'd better shut it, when they put on the" Copperface", or you probaly get arrested.
But then again, I am not black or such. Can't relate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I still believe Obama was way in the wrong for saying what he did

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

and he still owes the country an apology for stirring up sh*t.

Do Presidents or any other politicians do that ?

Muadib · 01-08-2009, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raycarey

yeah, let's take a look at that police report and the lies contained within....

crowley acted stupidly.....and then lied in the police report to cover his stupidity....and cambridge police department covered its own ass by dropping the charges.

Quote:

Black cop in Gates arrest sends letter to Obama about being called an “Uncle Tom”.

A black sergeant who was at the home of Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. when he was arrested says he’s been maligned as an “Uncle Tom” for supporting the actions of the white arresting officer.

Cambridge Sgt. Leon Lashley gave a letter to Sgt. James Crowley to give to President Barack Obama during their so-called beer summit with Gates on Thursday night at the White House.

In the letter, which was also sent to CNN, Lashley says Gates “may have caused grave and potentially irreparable harm to the struggle for racial harmony.”

Boon Mee · 01-08-2009, 04:56 AM

Racial Opportunist or what? BO sucks big-time...

Jet Gorgon · 01-08-2009, 05:33 AM

Bud ain't American no mo. And there goes part of the American Dream along with your right to work hard, prosper and enjoy what you reap. Oh well, memories...

YouTube - Budweiser Rocky Horse SuperBowl Commercial

raycarey · 01-08-2009, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muadib

Quote:

Originally Posted by raycarey

yeah, let's take a look at that police report and the lies contained within....

crowley acted stupidly.....and then lied in the police report to cover his stupidity....and cambridge police department covered its own ass by dropping the charges.

Quote:

Black cop in Gates arrest sends letter to Obama about being called an “Uncle Tom”.

A black sergeant who was at the home of Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. when he was arrested says he’s been maligned as an “Uncle Tom” for supporting the actions of the white arresting officer.

Cambridge Sgt. Leon Lashley gave a letter to Sgt. James Crowley to give to President Barack Obama during their so-called beer summit with Gates on Thursday night at the White House.

In the letter, which was also sent to CNN, Lashley says Gates “may have caused grave and potentially irreparable harm to the struggle for racial harmony.”

errr....great maudib....but what does your article (from some blog called, "hotair.com"

) have to do with my post that you quoted?

and btw, it's interesting how none of the usual suspects want to talk about the lies crowley put in the police report. and after listening to crowley's press conference (he's turning into quite the media whore, isn't he?) it seems he anxious for this entire episode to go away too.
i hope the lying cop scum is brought up on charges.

Jet Gorgon · 01-08-2009, 08:07 AM

Grrr. This is why so many people are thick. Just had an argument with a neighbour over this issue. She watched one news program and believed every word on the news that the black professor was being attacked by the bad white policeman. Fek, no wonder Canada and America are going down the tubes.

raycarey · 01-08-2009, 08:24 AM

why doesn't anyone want to talk about the lies crowley wrote in his police report?

and dollars to donuts (throwing that one out for the knee jerk cop apologists here on TD), that's why the cambridge police department dropped the charges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Just had an argument with a neighbour over this issue.

Humbert · 01-08-2009, 08:31 AM

Gates blew his stack at Crowley. He was wrong to do that. Crowley was doing his job.
Crowley, after having verified Gates as owner of the house should have use his discretion and just left.
President Obama should not have commented on the situation during a news conference.
Right and left pundits elevated the situation to ridiculous levels.
Obama sought to diffuse the situation and get the parties together and hopefully elevate the discussion to a higher level.
Maybe we have heard enough on this.

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27-07-2009, 09:11 PM	#121 (permalink)
blackgang Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 08:39 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 14,876	Not a trick of memory, but just not important enough to make an impression.

28-07-2009, 05:51 AM	#122 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Today 04:08 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,039	^ True. Here's an ending to a Bloomberg op piece today. (The rest is largely a rehash of the Gates arrest). “Once you’re yelling at a police officer in front of the public,” says Peter Moskos, a criminologist at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, “it’s no surprise he got locked up. Cops don’t lose face.” Minorities probably are disproportionately arrested for contempt of cop. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer concluded that in a report last year. But in the Gates-Crowley encounter, only one of them indisputably had race on his mind from the start. And it wasn’t Crowley. Obama Tilts Harvardâ€™s Gates Bust Away From Reality: Ann Woolner - Bloomberg.com

29-07-2009, 04:52 AM	#123 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Today 04:08 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,039	I found it interesting that several media initially accused the 911 caller as racist for sayig two "black" men were trying to bust into the house. Not true as the tapes were released and proved she did not -- she even called them "gentlemen". But, the dispatcher asked her if the men were white, black or hispanic. Hey! What about Asians, Indians, Arabs...

30-07-2009, 09:35 AM	#126 (permalink)
Dug Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 04:04 PM Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,194	^ You're an idiot. You remind me of Niel from 'the young 'ones' Yeah man, fuck the pigs.

30-07-2009, 12:38 PM	#127 (permalink)
DrivingForce I am in Jail Last Online: 30-10-2009 12:02 AM Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,556	^don't tell him that, he'll proudly use it on his next CV..

31-07-2009, 11:51 PM	#129 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 09:51 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 13,534	So the beer thing didn't end it, eh? Black cop in Gates arrest sends letter to Obama about being called an “Uncle Tom”.

01-08-2009, 12:06 AM	#130 (permalink)
Storekeeper Because I said so. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pattaya Posts: 4,920	Jesse Jackson: "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery -- then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." There ARE important racial differences.

01-08-2009, 02:45 AM	#132 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Today 04:08 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,039	^ 555 Actually, the vid missed two other Fox shows on this, one which interviewed a black lawyer who was a homocide cop for many years -- he said Crowley had every right to cuff the guy; another, which the left would lap up and made me roll my eyes, was that Italian judge anchor, who said Crowley did NOT have reason to go into the house at all. First Amendment rights allow folks to hurl verbal insults and slurs at police? Hmmm. Would dispute that, even if this youtube guy purports to be a lawyer (how do we know?). That npr black chick talking about how her brothers were coached to do whatever police totld them is just racial stirring. My folks told me the same thing -- ie, never sass anyone in authority, especially police. Always show them respect. So, if the police did not respond to that 911 call, or just said "OK" when Crowley said he lived there, that's not doing their job. Why have 911 otherwise? I still believe Obama was way in the wrong for saying what he did, and he still owes the country an apology for stirring up sh*t.

01-08-2009, 04:56 AM	#135 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 09:51 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 13,534	Racial Opportunist or what? BO sucks big-time...

01-08-2009, 08:07 AM	#138 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Today 04:08 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,039	Grrr. This is why so many people are thick. Just had an argument with a neighbour over this issue. She watched one news program and believed every word on the news that the black professor was being attacked by the bad white policeman. Fek, no wonder Canada and America are going down the tubes.

01-08-2009, 08:31 AM	#140 (permalink)
Humbert Bang Pa In Last Online: Today 08:33 PM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 761	Gates blew his stack at Crowley. He was wrong to do that. Crowley was doing his job. Crowley, after having verified Gates as owner of the house should have use his discretion and just left. President Obama should not have commented on the situation during a news conference. Right and left pundits elevated the situation to ridiculous levels. Obama sought to diffuse the situation and get the parties together and hopefully elevate the discussion to a higher level. Maybe we have heard enough on this.

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