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raycarey · 14-09-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

The point is, it was a good rally,

that's quite a walkback from....

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

They filled the mall on Capitol Hill today.

get better informed.

S Landreth · 16-09-2009, 02:52 AM

Embarrassing, yes. Watch the reaction of some of these people towards the end of the video,…….their responses, their concerns, their disbelief when this young man informs them of the truth.

The best question to the young man behind the video,……….(at 7:59) when the older gentleman asks the kid “You know this how?”

YouTube - 9.12 DC TEA PARTY - MARCH FOOTAGE WITH INTERVIEWS

Jet Gorgon · 16-09-2009, 03:58 AM

^ 5555555555555555555 Ya, love those fringe weirdos. Lovely film clip by the libbies.

blackgang · 16-09-2009, 09:09 AM

I have seen nothing about the latest march on DC, 1.7 million and abc, cbs, nbc, cnn has a word about it, but when Louie Farakhan had his million man march sometime back and 10k niggers showed up it was more coverage than Pearl Harbor 7-12-41

blackgang · 16-09-2009, 09:15 AM

Why wasn't the size of this rally reported on the National News????

Be sure to read the photographer's comments also.

No doubt this will not be NEWS to those of you who watch ABC, CBS, and NBC . . .

After Japan's sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Adm. Yamamoto may or may not have said,

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
. . . but the Left-leaning would do well to ponder those words and listen to the hard-working, tax-paying American people!

This is the first great conservative anti-statist manifestation in American history. The conservative movement, which developed in the post-WWII, Cold War environment has now fully matured into the most significant political movement of the 21st century. I believe that this day could be referred to in the not too distant future as the day that changed America. This was the day the great silent conservative majority finally found its voice.

Many of the attendees were quite meek and timid and were unsure of exactly what to expect, this being the first time in their lives theyâ€™d been involved in a protest movement. Their fears evaporated early in the day and I saw people reveling in the camaraderie , the joy and sheer civility that was exhibited at the entire event. Chants of â€œFreedom, freedom, freedomâ€�, â€œNo more czars! No more czars!â€� carried through the air without the slightest hint of rancor or incivility which is the norm at the leftist rallies I have photographed over the years.

The two photos above show a tiny fraction of the two million ABC estimates attended. I saw signs and heard lots of comments comparing this event to Woodstock. At the time this photo was taken, around 1:00 p.m., Pennsylvania Avenue was still jammed completely, and the mall was packed from the Capitol Building past the Washington Monument. See aerial photos here.

Protesters came from every state in the union. This man came from San Antonio, TX. He said that he was really sorry he hadnâ€™t brought his family. He stated that being a black conservative he was afraid to expose his children to what he expected would be a lot of liberal abuse. He was thrilled with the tenor of the event and the fact that no liberals were present to harass him. He spoke about how incredibly intolerant the left is to black individuals who donâ€™t bow to the party line.

These Ohioans took a day off their rodeo bullriding schedule. They said theyâ€™ll be back at it tomorrow.

Mike Pence (R-Indiana) was one of the speakers who addressed the crowd: â€œAfter years of fighting runaway government on this hill, you people look like the cavalry to me..I believe we are on the verge of a great American awakening.â€�

San Diego radio host Mason Weaver said from the podium: â€œI came here because I thought you might want to hear a black man speak without a teleprompterâ€¦This government is trying to make a nation of dependent people. Americans have always been independent peopleâ€¦This is not a Republican thing, itâ€™s not a Democrat thing. Itâ€™s not a black thing or a white thing. Itâ€™s an American thingâ€¦We the people are telling them â€˜No more! Weâ€™ve had enough!â€�

In the very center of the photo, above the Silence is Consent â€“ Can You Hear Us Now sign, you can see Pennsylvania Ave., which at this time is totally blocked with protesters who cannot move forward to the Capitol area. Sorry, full up.

There were notable differences though, in the behavior of these attendees. Although the legend of Woodstock is that there was a friendly atmosphere of camaraderie, the truth is that most people were there for the drugs, sex and rock and roll. Today in D.C. there was a true kinship amongst these people based on shared values and intellectual understanding of what America is and how its future is imperiled by big radical government.

No one was having sex in the Reflecting Pool let alone the mud, and I saw no one projectile vomiting on the steps of the Capitol. There were no warnings to avoid the bad acid which would send you on a trip to the hospital. Not just a different era, but a different level of civilized behavior and thought. Oh, and by the way, these people didnâ€™t leave tons of garbage behind when they left. Actually they left no trash behind at all.

Obama Lied, Capitalism Died.

We are the mob!

Support Class Envy! Redistribute Wealth.

Madam Speaker: Kiss Our Astroturf!

The Only Thing We Have to Fear is Obama Himself â€“ - â€“ Compassion is Voluntary, Not Compulsory!

WALNUT â€“ Workers Against Lazy Non-Producers United Together â€” the conservative answer to ACORN. Didnâ€™t have to ask them if they were receiving any taxpayer money like radical left-wing ACORN. Different DNA!

Proud members of the â€œAngry Mobâ€� and theyâ€™re armed with their votes.

Your walletâ€¦the only place Democrats are willing to drill! â€“ Donâ€™t share my wealth â€“ share my work ethic!

Right-wing extremist armed with the constitution.

Who are the commie czars?

Marxism â€“ the opiate of the asses â€“ Posters from the Peoples Cube are proliferating amongst protesters.

Stop Making Profit! â€” Report all Capitalist Activities to flag[at]whitehouse.gov

Worldâ€™s #1 Crypto-Marxist. Endorsed by Fidel Castro: The most powerful progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency.â€� â€“ GRANMA, Havana, May 26, 2008

Nancy Pelosi has accused patriotic tea-partyers of â€œcarrying swastikasâ€� implying that they are Nazi sympathizers. This event was wall to wall hammers and sickles and words like â€œsocialistâ€� â€œcommunistâ€� and â€œMarxistâ€� etc. It continues to fascinate me how long the Democrats will tolerate this without ever commenting on it. Either they like it, or thereâ€™s something to it.

Jet Gorgon · 16-09-2009, 10:02 AM

Now that the truth is coming out, it's all quiet along the leftist front.

raycarey · 16-09-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Now that the truth is coming out

what truth is that, jet?

that they filled the mall on capitol hill?

sabang · 16-09-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Now that the truth is coming out

It is- the real conservatives are abandoning the Republicans, in droves.

The Right wing noise machine cannot hide the fact they are beating an empty tin drum.

raycarey · 16-09-2009, 10:43 AM

^
and real republicans know these teabaggers are leading their party down the road to another election nightmare in 2010. being an off year election during the worst recession in decades, the minority party should expect to pick up a load of seats....but if things stay the same, it's not going to happen

moderates will never get behind a group of radicals who compare obama to hitler, show up to presidential speeches with loaded guns, etc...

Jet Gorgon · 16-09-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sabang

the real conservatives are abandoning the Republicans, in droves.

Where are they going?

Milkman · 16-09-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

^
and real republicans know these teabaggers are leading their party down the road to another election nightmare in 2010. being an off year election during the worst recession in decades, the minority party should expect to pick up a load of seats....but if things stay the same, it's not going to happen

moderates will never get behind a group of radicals who compare obama to hitler, show up to presidential speeches with loaded guns, etc...

As for elections, it's hard to predict the National Prez in 3 years, of course.

Minority usually gains seats in the mid-term.

Times are different. The economy is NOT getting better. The media reports about "recovery" seem to be based on GDP growth - but there is still high unemployment, foreclosures, and a lack of confidence and security. The latter, are very powerful in keeping people, even employed, from spending in a consumer based economy.

There references to Communism and Nazism and Hitler are over-the-top, and no they are not helpful to the GOP, IMO.

I cannot prove it.

BO's poll numbers are down. No surprise. But will people think the GOP will change and undo what they've done, policy-wise during the last 8 years.

sabang · 16-09-2009, 11:30 AM

^^ Too many for your liking are going Dem!
Others are staying unaligned for now.
But when voting day comes, where are they gonna swing- blue dog, or teabag?

raycarey · 16-09-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sabang

But when voting day comes, where are they gonna swing- blue dog, or teabag?

IMO the vast majority are going to stay home.

true moderates are not going to come out and support this radio talk show host/teabagging lunacy. this stuff only appeals to rabid partisans of limited intellect.

moderates also know obama inherited this economic mess, and they will want to give him a legitimate chance to right the ship.

2012 is a different matter altogether.....depending on who the repubs put up, we might see a big turnout.

blackgang · 16-09-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Milkman

The economy is NOT getting better. The media reports about "recovery" seem to be based on GDP growth - but there is still high unemployment, foreclosures, and a lack of confidence and security. The latter, are very powerful in keeping people, even employed, from spending in a consumer based economy. There references to Communism and Nazism and Hitler are over-the-top, and no they are not helpful to the GOP, IMO

Quite so, highest unemployment in over 26 years and getting worse daily, this is not a problem that can be solved by throwing money away, here domestically or foreign.
Obama was hired for the job when people knew he had no experience and were hiring an empty suit, but who ever put him up to this and fronted the money to make sure he was elected has an agenda and it is being followed to the letter,,
Dirty Tri-Lateral bastards.This has been talked about for years, but the firsdt time that they have had the balls to send the pres out to weed the other gardens that they have planted worldwide.

raycarey · 16-09-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackgang

who ever put him up to this and fronted the money to make sure he was elected has an agenda and it is being followed to the letter,, Dirty Tri-Lateral bastards.

ahhhhh. so now it's a conspiracy.

sabang · 16-09-2009, 04:39 PM

Meanwhile, it looks like the recession is over and the US economy is in it's second consecutive quarter of growth. The workers always get the benefit (job growth) last BG, there is nothing unique to this recession about that. But we should be seeing some job growth emerging by 1Q next year- Obama certainly hopes so!

Humbert · 16-09-2009, 04:46 PM

The August retail numbers were surprisingly better than expected. There is a lot of pent-up consumer demand and we may see a strong 4th quarter in the retail sector.

Jet Gorgon · 17-09-2009, 12:11 AM

^ I just took that as a back-to-school increase. Or has the govt changed the way it counts retail sales now?

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Originally Posted by Milkman

There references to Communism and Nazism and Hitler are over-the-top, and no they are not helpful to the GOP, IMO.

BO's poll numbers are down. No surprise. But will people think the GOP will change and undo what they've done, policy-wise during the last 8 years.

As I said, the fringe groups are not helping by being as nasty as the far-left always are at protests/rallies.

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Originally Posted by sabang

^^ Too many for your liking are going Dem!
Others are staying unaligned for now.
But when voting day comes, where are they gonna swing- blue dog, or teabag?

Independent, maybe, Dem, no. They are looking at what's going on with their economy, spending, and focus shift and they don't like it. Yep, the GOP needs to find a strong candidate that is trustworthy, has a strong vision and focuses on priority #1: keeping the country safe. Sorry, Obama has done none of this, and as BG pointed out again, he is just the cardboard cut-out who spouts what his puppet masters tell him. And he's still bladdy well campaigning instead of leading.

Humbert · 17-09-2009, 03:24 PM

Retail sales numbers are always comp to last year. Nobody was surprised by BTS. If there is an increase from 08 to 09 that is good news. Back to school sales were in the plan and retailers performed well v. plan. There can be no negative interpretation of that.

Milkman · 01-12-2009, 09:09 PM

I find this article interesting, and I'm not surprised that the movement as been hijacked or, taken over. It's too bad this has happened.

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Tea Party Co-Founder: Concept Has Been Hijacked By False Left/Right Paradigm

Posted: November 30th, 2009 by Militant Libertarian
by Steve Watson

The co-founder of the modern day Tea Party political protests has slammed imitators of the concept, referring to them as “partisan political perverts”.

Constitutionalist grass roots activist Chad Peace was part of the original team of people who organised Boston Tea Party re-enactment protests in 50 different cities in late 2007, in support of Congressman Ron Paul’s presidential campaign.

The protests became extremely popular, and continued throughout 2008 and into 2009, prompting thousands of people to engage in peaceful political protest.

Tea Party protests earlier this year prompted the FBI to initiate a comprehensive surveillance program, and in some cases the National Guard was even readied as a response.

Chad Peace says he was proud to be a part of a movement calling for government accountability, honesty, respect, and sincerity, but he now reveals his disgust at what he sees as a hijacking of the Tea Party concept by “golden idols”.

“I was convinced that the average American was beginning to see through the veil of scripted partisan sermons, designed to coddle fears and perpetuate the superficial battle between a “left” and “right”.” Peace writes in a commentary article.

However, Peace states that over the course of the last year, the Tea Party movement has been co-opted.

“In short time, desperate partisans Their soiling the sheets.” Peace writes.

“At some point, reality began piercing my passion. The tea party boat started becoming a wagon of whiners. Propelled by the moving mouths on TV and the talking heads of such ironically named organizations such as the “American Family Association”… the movement lost its focus.” he continues.

“A movement founded on the principles of independent analysis, it has become a yelling fest for punch-drunk cynics armed with incoherent talking points.”

Revelations of staged Tea Party protests organised by Fox News and Glenn Beck have served to frame the concept within a strictly mainline conservative political focus. Not only that but they have provided the left leaning media mouthpieces with ammunition to attack and ridicule what started out as a legitimate grassroots activist success story.

The common conception of the Tea Party protest now languishes a far cry from it’s Libertarian begininngs.

“What I see is a bunch of people reciting partisan political sermons, coddling fears, and perpetuating a superficial battle between “left” and “right”; drowning the well intentioned idealists that remain.” Chad Peace writes.

However, Peace does believe that the movement can be taken back and still act as a force for political change.

“As the battle rages, I have more faith than ever that an independent revolution will come. When the absurdity of our political process rises to the point where tea bags become a right wing rally cry and the left still manages to drop in the polls, there is a growing opportunity for the increasingly disenchanted to drive a stake right down the middle.”

Link & Entire: Militant Libertarian Tea Party Co-Founder: Concept Has Been Hijacked By False Left/Right Paradigm

16-09-2009, 09:15 AM	#285 (permalink)
blackgang Senior Member Last Online: Today 07:07 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 15,464	Why wasn't the size of this rally reported on the National News???? Be sure to read the photographer's comments also. No doubt this will not be NEWS to those of you who watch ABC, CBS, and NBC . . . After Japan's sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, Adm. Yamamoto may or may not have said, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." . . . but the Left-leaning would do well to ponder those words and listen to the hard-working, tax-paying American people! This is the first great conservative anti-statist manifestation in American history. The conservative movement, which developed in the post-WWII, Cold War environment has now fully matured into the most significant political movement of the 21st century. I believe that this day could be referred to in the not too distant future as the day that changed America. This was the day the great silent conservative majority finally found its voice. Many of the attendees were quite meek and timid and were unsure of exactly what to expect, this being the first time in their lives theyâ€™d been involved in a protest movement. Their fears evaporated early in the day and I saw people reveling in the camaraderie , the joy and sheer civility that was exhibited at the entire event. Chants of â€œFreedom, freedom, freedomâ€�, â€œNo more czars! No more czars!â€� carried through the air without the slightest hint of rancor or incivility which is the norm at the leftist rallies I have photographed over the years. The two photos above show a tiny fraction of the two million ABC estimates attended. I saw signs and heard lots of comments comparing this event to Woodstock. At the time this photo was taken, around 1:00 p.m., Pennsylvania Avenue was still jammed completely, and the mall was packed from the Capitol Building past the Washington Monument. See aerial photos here. Protesters came from every state in the union. This man came from San Antonio, TX. He said that he was really sorry he hadnâ€™t brought his family. He stated that being a black conservative he was afraid to expose his children to what he expected would be a lot of liberal abuse. He was thrilled with the tenor of the event and the fact that no liberals were present to harass him. He spoke about how incredibly intolerant the left is to black individuals who donâ€™t bow to the party line. These Ohioans took a day off their rodeo bullriding schedule. They said theyâ€™ll be back at it tomorrow. Mike Pence (R-Indiana) was one of the speakers who addressed the crowd: â€œAfter years of fighting runaway government on this hill, you people look like the cavalry to me..I believe we are on the verge of a great American awakening.â€� San Diego radio host Mason Weaver said from the podium: â€œI came here because I thought you might want to hear a black man speak without a teleprompterâ€¦This government is trying to make a nation of dependent people. Americans have always been independent peopleâ€¦This is not a Republican thing, itâ€™s not a Democrat thing. Itâ€™s not a black thing or a white thing. Itâ€™s an American thingâ€¦We the people are telling them â€˜No more! Weâ€™ve had enough!â€� In the very center of the photo, above the Silence is Consent â€“ Can You Hear Us Now sign, you can see Pennsylvania Ave., which at this time is totally blocked with protesters who cannot move forward to the Capitol area. Sorry, full up. There were notable differences though, in the behavior of these attendees. Although the legend of Woodstock is that there was a friendly atmosphere of camaraderie, the truth is that most people were there for the drugs, sex and rock and roll. Today in D.C. there was a true kinship amongst these people based on shared values and intellectual understanding of what America is and how its future is imperiled by big radical government. No one was having sex in the Reflecting Pool let alone the mud, and I saw no one projectile vomiting on the steps of the Capitol. There were no warnings to avoid the bad acid which would send you on a trip to the hospital. Not just a different era, but a different level of civilized behavior and thought. Oh, and by the way, these people didnâ€™t leave tons of garbage behind when they left. Actually they left no trash behind at all. Obama Lied, Capitalism Died. We are the mob! Support Class Envy! Redistribute Wealth. Madam Speaker: Kiss Our Astroturf! The Only Thing We Have to Fear is Obama Himself â€“ - â€“ Compassion is Voluntary, Not Compulsory! WALNUT â€“ Workers Against Lazy Non-Producers United Together â€” the conservative answer to ACORN. Didnâ€™t have to ask them if they were receiving any taxpayer money like radical left-wing ACORN. Different DNA! Proud members of the â€œAngry Mobâ€� and theyâ€™re armed with their votes. Your walletâ€¦the only place Democrats are willing to drill! â€“ Donâ€™t share my wealth â€“ share my work ethic! Right-wing extremist armed with the constitution. Who are the commie czars? Marxism â€“ the opiate of the asses â€“ Posters from the Peoples Cube are proliferating amongst protesters. Stop Making Profit! â€” Report all Capitalist Activities to flag[at]whitehouse.gov Worldâ€™s #1 Crypto-Marxist. Endorsed by Fidel Castro: The most powerful progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency.â€� â€“ GRANMA, Havana, May 26, 2008 Nancy Pelosi has accused patriotic tea-partyers of â€œcarrying swastikasâ€� implying that they are Nazi sympathizers. This event was wall to wall hammers and sickles and words like â€œsocialistâ€� â€œcommunistâ€� and â€œMarxistâ€� etc. It continues to fascinate me how long the Democrats will tolerate this without ever commenting on it. Either they like it, or thereâ€™s something to it. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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sabang Go ask Alice Last Online: 13-03-2010 12:58 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: where the streets have no name Posts: 12,557	Meanwhile, it looks like the recession is over and the US economy is in it's second consecutive quarter of growth. The workers always get the benefit (job growth) last BG, there is nothing unique to this recession about that. But we should be seeing some job growth emerging by 1Q next year- Obama certainly hopes so! __________________ Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

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16-09-2009, 03:58 AM	#283 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Today 07:15 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,319	^ 5555555555555555555 Ya, love those fringe weirdos. Lovely film clip by the libbies.

16-09-2009, 09:09 AM	#284 (permalink)
blackgang Senior Member Last Online: Today 07:07 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 15,464	I have seen nothing about the latest march on DC, 1.7 million and abc, cbs, nbc, cnn has a word about it, but when Louie Farakhan had his million man march sometime back and 10k niggers showed up it was more coverage than Pearl Harbor 7-12-41

16-09-2009, 10:02 AM	#286 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Today 07:15 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,319	Now that the truth is coming out, it's all quiet along the leftist front.

16-09-2009, 10:43 AM	#289 (permalink)
raycarey Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Yesterday 03:36 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 7,122	^ and real republicans know these teabaggers are leading their party down the road to another election nightmare in 2010. being an off year election during the worst recession in decades, the minority party should expect to pick up a load of seats....but if things stay the same, it's not going to happen moderates will never get behind a group of radicals who compare obama to hitler, show up to presidential speeches with loaded guns, etc...

16-09-2009, 11:30 AM	#292 (permalink)
sabang Go ask Alice Last Online: 13-03-2010 12:58 PM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: where the streets have no name Posts: 12,557	^^ Too many for your liking are going Dem! Others are staying unaligned for now. But when voting day comes, where are they gonna swing- blue dog, or teabag?

16-09-2009, 04:46 PM	#297 (permalink)
Humbert Phra Pathom Chedi Last Online: Today 04:53 PM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 866	The August retail numbers were surprisingly better than expected. There is a lot of pent-up consumer demand and we may see a strong 4th quarter in the retail sector.

17-09-2009, 03:24 PM	#299 (permalink)
Humbert Phra Pathom Chedi Last Online: Today 04:53 PM Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 866	Retail sales numbers are always comp to last year. Nobody was surprised by BTS. If there is an increase from 08 to 09 that is good news. Back to school sales were in the plan and retailers performed well v. plan. There can be no negative interpretation of that.

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