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Old 07-08-2009, 11:41 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I've lived in UK, Oz & HK each with their different state health care systems. I don't know of these waiting lists to see a doctor Jet, at all. Do you mean elective surgery? In HK, if you go to a government clinic when it is busy you will have to wait your turn in line- but if you require emergency treatment, it's strait to Casualty and into treatment- ambulance included. Including (as happened to a friend of mine) being heli-lifted to a hospital from Lamma Island. Free. My mother has diabetes, and osteo-sclerosis. The government health care she receives in Oz is just excellent. Hell, she even supplies me with painkillers (for my hangovers) cus she gets them for free.

Should point out something though. With our aging populations, the issue of keeping the cost of health care in check is not unique to the USA. But our problem is so much less than theirs- we spend 50-65% what the US does, and frankly the coverage offered all citizens is so much better.
People like you make me throw up. Oh, it's from the government, rip them off, they rip us off, they owe me. haha, mom even gives me free painkillers. You are FREELOADERS.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:23 PM   #102 (permalink)
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People like you make me throw up.
Think you have some sort of stomach ulcer or sumpin. Sottomayer and now Sabang inducing vomiting. Jet you really need to go see your GP.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:34 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I don't know of these waiting lists to see a doctor
GPs all over the place, inexpensive or even free, bulk billing . . . of course the waiting time starts at zero and extends to however many people happen to be there at any given time.

Is it a perfect system? Hardly. Is it better than most? Absolutely.

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Jet you really need to go see your GP
Lucky Jet lives in Canada, not in the US
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:15 PM   #104 (permalink)
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haha, mom even gives me free painkillers. You are FREELOADERS.
Yeh, I Freeloaded a few paracetamols & Ibuprofens (for Gout) from dear Mum when I lived on Oz for 3 years, before moving to Thailand. You see, I couldn't be bothered signing on to Medicare, as is my entitlement as an Oz citizen- I still had private health care cover from my HK company anyway. Oh and I freeloaded some stuff to help stop smoking (didn't work) from my sister too, who is a GP and gets all sorts of free samples from the Pharma's, including nice junkets to holiday resorts. Makes ya sick then does it?

Hardly matters here in Thailand, pharma's are so damn cheap anyway.

But, back to the point, where are these three month waits for Doctors? I've never known any, and between UK, Oz & HK thats about 44 years of my life covered. Did I miss something? The standard of state health care my mother receives in Oz is nothing short of excellent, and with diabetes and osteo that amounts to quite a lot. They chuck you out of private healthcare policies for that in the USA.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:09 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:08 AM   #106 (permalink)
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mother...osteo
I am sorry to hear of that.
As for diabetes, so many folks in Canada have type 2, but they'd rather take meds than sort out their diets and lifestyles.

I didn't mean to get so snippy, SB, but in so many ways, the safety net/nanny state scenario is wrong to me. Sure, if free funding was used only by those in real need, it would be fine, but so many abuse it. Pshaw, why take care of myself or even work -- the govt owes me just for being a citizen. My work ethics and morals don't allow me to sponge off others. And how much control does the govt then have over your lives if they take care of all these issues? There are many folks everyday who are sidetracked for "elective" surgery in Canada -- you know, gall stones, hip replacements, cancer treatments, etc. Hey, if you are not at death's door, you can handle the pain for another six months. And it is true that the elderly are last in line for "elective" ops. (Hmm, treat those that will go back to work and pay taxes.)
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Is that right...and just who are you to pronounce that, eh? Don't like what he says? Well, change the channel motherfucker!
Will do, and maybe you can wipe the sweat off my ass you old sac licker
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Old 14-08-2009, 07:49 PM   #108 (permalink)
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- In what is shaping up to be one of the more effective boycott campaigns in years, advertisers are abandoning the "Glenn Beck" show on Fox News following the host's incendiary comments that President Barack Obama is a "racist" and has a "deep-seated hatred for white people."
Advertisers deserting Fox News' Glenn Beck - MarketWatch


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Old 14-08-2009, 08:51 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Sorry sabang NHS is rubbish. Always has been especially when you are old - they dont give a fuck, rather see you die then spend the dosh.

Far as Glenn Beck - didnt he work for CNN prior to Fox? Any rate - don't take him serious he acts the way he does to make a point in an extreme fashion. Entertaining to watch, but doubt he is taken seriously.
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Old 15-08-2009, 05:08 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Glenn Beck,…………

During the first (maybe 4 minuets) part of this show (link),……….Glenn Beck is praising the US Health Care System (while working for FOX) but just 16 months ago he was critical of the US Health Care System (working for CNN).

What a tool,……….for the Republican Party.

Link: The Daily Show Full Episode | Thursday Aug 13 2009 | Comedy Central
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Old 15-08-2009, 05:21 AM   #111 (permalink)
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^ He's an Independent, bebe. I can't watch your version of Jon. Will troll it on the Canuck network. Haven't much interest in Jon or Colbert lately -- did they change writers or just get more boring?
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^I don’t watch Colbert,…….but Stewart is entertaining at times.
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Old 15-08-2009, 05:39 AM   #113 (permalink)
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^ Colby used to be funny, but his show is getting kinda lame now. Rarely watch either these days, altho that Jon clip when he's trying to get BO to not say anything about the Gates issue and the police acted "stupidly" was pretty amusing. I'm glad to see they feel easier now clobbering both sides.
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Old 15-08-2009, 06:11 AM   #114 (permalink)
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Beck touts himself as a Libertarian... I first started watching him when he was on CNN... He was much more moderate at that time and actually spoke to issues... So much so that I thought his departure from CNN just prior to the elections last year due to his 'on target' rhetoric... Once he surfaced on Fox, he is a different person, pandering to the ultra-right nutters... The crying on queue and the OTT commentary turned me off very quickly...
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Old 15-08-2009, 06:31 AM   #115 (permalink)
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^ He's an Independent, bebe.
He's not independent, he just claims to be.

It's very common. O'reilly claims to be independent.

Beck may have stated (as you say) that he's a Libertarian, but he's made many statements contrary to the Libertarian value/belief system.

Beck....is an entertainer. Period. He's not a political man. He's an entertainer who discusses politica, celebrity, and social issues.
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Old 15-08-2009, 07:36 AM   #116 (permalink)
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Beck....is an entertainer. Period
Beck is a hired hack, plain and simple. Credibility- Zero.
He's been given a big pay rise by Fox to plug populist messages, aimed at the lowest possible denominator.
I suppose he's no worse a hired Ho than Britney Spears and their Ilk.
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^ True, I wouldn't pin my life on his words, but he does start some good debates. That's his job -- make people question WTF is going on.
He was talking about Medal of Freedom recipients last week. When I heard Desmond Tutu was getting one I almost smashed my computer. That racist, vile slug dressed in preacher's garb? I saw him at a rally in Tokyo in the '80s and all he did was spew hatred against all whites. My Jap friends couldn't believe it -- a "holy" man saying that sh*t? They lost all credence for him then, not that they had much for him in the first place being a black. Nice pick, bambam.
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Glenn Beck is spot-on
Granted Glen Beck is the most honest person on Fixed Noise:
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Old 18-08-2009, 01:16 AM   #119 (permalink)
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That's a great clip. Thanks. And WTF is with that get-up at 2:40? Polka-dots? Jesus.
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Well, Beck will be happy with this poll!

According to Gallup, conservatives outnumber liberals in all 50 states.
In 2009, 40% percent of respondents in Gallup surveys that have interviewed more than 160,000 Americans have said that they are either "conservative" (31%) or "very conservative" (9%). That is the highest percentage in any year since 2004.
Only 21% have told Gallup they are liberal, including 16% who say they are "liberal" and 5% who say they are "very liberal."
Thirty-five percent of Americans say they are moderate.
Among these moderates, Comrade Obama's numbers have been plummeting.
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