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Old 21-09-2009, 04:49 AM   #221 (permalink)
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Clearly you missed the point if you think Time Magazine in any way represents "libbie press".
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^ Oh, sorry, would you prefer in Obama's pocket?

Well, here's something to ponder, and mebbe Beck will target him next:

Illegal Market Manipulation, Felony Insider Trading, Villain, Currency collapses

Soros: Republic Enemy #1


By Jim O'Neill Tuesday, September 15, 2009 “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.”—George Soros
“George Soros is an evil man. He’s anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and
anti-good.”
—Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
Is it possible to lay the global financial meltdown, the radicalizing of the Democratic Party, and America’s moral decline, at the feet of one man?
It is indeed possible.
If George Soros isn’t the world’s preeminent “malignant messianic narcissist,” he’ll do until the real thing comes along. Move over, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. There’s a new kid on the block.
What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath’s lack of conscience. He considers himself to be a world class philosopher, despises capitalism, and just loves social engineering.
Uh oh. Can you say “trouble,” boys and girls?
Soros is a real life version of Dr. Evil—with Obama in the role of Mini-Me. Which is not as humorous as it might at first sound. In fact, it’s bone-deep chilling.
György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 in Hungary. Soros’ father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of Esperanto—a language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity.
The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s. Soros is an Esperanto word meaning “to soar.”
In 1944 Hitler’s henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary, to oversee the murder of that country’s Jews. The Soros children were all given fake identity papers, and were shipped out to various Christian families. George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.
Soros has repeatedly called 1944 “the best year of his life.”
In an article in the Wall Street Journal, Joshua Muravchik notes that, “70% of Mr. Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year. They were dying and disappearing all around him, and their numbers no doubt included many whom he knew personally. Yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect.”
During an interview with “Sixty Minute’s” Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his “best year:”
Sweetness & Light
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who
swore that you were his adopted godson.
SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the
psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
SOROS: Not, not at all. Not at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
SOROS: No.
Of course he didn’t feel guilty. Soros has the moral depth of a clam. Nonetheless, he has said, “my goal is to become the conscience of the world.”
In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having “carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.”
Can you imagine the results of this messianic sociopath being “the conscience of the world?” Ye gods.
Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s death in 1994. Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned “the open society,” and Fallibilism.
Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. Then again, I could be wrong about that.
The “open society” basically refers to a “test and evaluate” approach to social engineering. Regarding “open society” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.

In 1956 Soros moved to New York City, where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation.
Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.
In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England. He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically…almost overnight.”
In 1994 Soros crowed in “The New Republic” that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history.” The “Soros Empire” indeed.
In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia. At the time, Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohamad, called Soros “a villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.” (Source)
The website Greek national Pride reports, “[Soros] was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia, Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma]. Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”
France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. (Source)
Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that “The Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. [Soros’] deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary’s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.” (Source)
Soros’ grasp, greed, gluttony have a global reach

My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach.
But what about America? Soros told Australia’s national newspaper “The Australian” “America, as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits.
Ready to tighten your belts, America?
World financial crisis was”stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

Soros also told “The Australian” that the world financial crisis was”stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”
Stimulating. Have you found the job losses, house foreclosures, and incredible national debt—stimulating? Me neither.
Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil (yes, billion with a “b”), in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil, came shortly after Soros invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).
Tait Trussel writes, “The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it is a bad deal for the U.S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U.S. could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security.”
Do you get the feeling that American taxpayers are being treated like gullible suckers?
(By the way, if you want a short primer on Far Left economics—and a great cartoon from a 1911 St. Louis Post-Dispatch—go to actor Michael Moriarty’s website).

A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch.com. This is their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all…who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of…George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day stop preying upon the world’s poor…that justice will be served.”
Back to America. Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago Bill O’Reilly said on “The O’Reilly Factor” that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous….” (Source)
In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change—or more accurately deconstruct—the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of an ideology of rights and entitlements.”
Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel.
Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. I don’t have time to do the subject justice in this article, but FrontPage’s Jamie Glazov has an excellent interview with Richard Poe, which will fill you in on many of the facts.
The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which became the Obama Administration.
DiscoverTheNetworks.org (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros’] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia. When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government—a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”

The above quote was, of course, written before the Presidential Election. So was the following quote from a November 2008 edition of the German magazine “Der Spiegel,” in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS should do after taking office. “I think we need a large stimulus package….” Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right.
Soros also said that “I think this is a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U.S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”
Any of this sound familiar?
Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.
Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head [and ex-President] George Bush, Sr.
In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton—Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds.
When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. Republican Senator John McCain was the keynote speaker at the “Soros Convention” (so labelled by the late Robert Novak) in Philadelphia.
Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA.
And I musn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the LSM (Lame Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e.g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to.
As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”
Richard Poe writes, “Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues undermining America’s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments
in social engineering.”
Some of the many NGOs (None Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn.org, the Apollo Alliance, Media Matters for America, the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks.org.
Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”

As I’ve said before, America currently faces the greatest challenge to its existence as a free republic since the Civil War. And as we go, so goes the world.
So is Soros to blame for all of America’s woes?
Without Soros, would the Saul Alinsky Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals? Yes, yes, yes, and yes—but to much less of a degree.
The purpose of this article is to point out that without the financial skullduggery and Machiavellian manipulations of Soros, America would be a considerably safer, saner, and stabler place to live.
America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America.
His conduct has been immoral, duplicitous, and traitorous. Stripping Soros of his U.S. citizenship, should be one of the first steps taken during the upcoming courtroom trials.
And trials there must be. No matter the cost, the nest of vipers on Capitol Hill, and all of the traitors in the government at large, must be brought to task for their behavior, or a free America is doomed.
The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”
These days, Patrick Henry’s sentiment is more than just some quaint hyperbole from long ago—it’s a slow burning, but intense, glow that fires our courage and heart.
Laus Deo.

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Old 21-09-2009, 05:54 AM   #223 (permalink)
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Sounds like a Capitalist Hero to me, Jet. Are you having some kind of Kumbaya Moment, or what? It's not like he took bonuses from taxpayers or something. Threw a few people out of their homes...screwed others out of their reitrement.... Ruthless, brutal, yes. And...? He's one of your own, Jet.

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So is Soros to blame for all of America’s woes? Without Soros, would the Saul Alinsky Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals? Yes, yes, yes, and yes—but to much less of a degree.
This from a site that features a headline about the ACLU Trying to Make Christianity Illegal, and I'm supposed to have some faith in it.

You meat-puppets get your talking points issued to your on a list about every two weeks, right? Lets see. First the Birther Lies: Done. The the He's a Muslim lie: Done. Then ACORN, and next SEIU, La Raza, Big Money and Lobbyists pursuing nefarious activities: Next on the agenda if only people would stop laughing.

I explore these goof ball web sites and I see this Right Wing Underground surfacing like zombies out of the fetid sewage of the body politic, placards scrawled with poorly spelled cliches and bad puns about the Communist/Fascist/Nazi/Racist-Hater-of-White-People/Pretender-To-The-Title Commande In Chief.

Kinda funny, but these are the people with guns, a poor grasp on reality and a very, very warped sense of justice. It's a good thing God's on their side, at least they can't rationalize something horrible on His behalf.
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Clearly you missed the point if you think Time Magazine in any way represents "libbie press".
She has tried this tack before . . . everyone is a libbie . . . even and especially Time, in her eyes.

She was thoroughly smacked down then and she is now . . . in a few months she will try the same thing again.

(Here's a hint - the more 555s she uses, the more she knows she is wrong. That and red herrings and obfuscation . . . tried and tested)
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Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.
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Old 21-09-2009, 01:58 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.
Hey Jet, apropos of this

If you're desperate and... 21-09-2009 09:34 AM Jet Gorgon Why do you care what the Thais do?

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?
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What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?
That's not fair because . . . well, it just isn't! Fekkin bladdy libbie
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Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.
Hey Jet, apropos of this

If you're desperate and... 21-09-2009 09:34 AM Jet Gorgon Why do you care what the Thais do?

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?
Unfurtunately most of what happens in the US has ripple effect all over the world, so we are very reluctantly forced to have an opinion on things over there, especially since American politics have an uncanny knack of not doing the obvious right and sensible thing, the recent healthcare debate clearly shows how money talks much louder than doing the only economically sensible thing, it shows a democracy deeply flawed by the influence of money grabbing scrupulous-less big finance, who could not care less what people or what Country they hurt, as long as the bottom-line shows black numbers rising with amoral high percentages.
The only good thing about it is that since these swine's have managed to put the whole of the US on the back-foot, and hurt the economies everywhere else, the US Government have been forced to listen to voices/demands from outside, lets pray it helps.

As far as Glen Beck goes, he is just a symptom of the disease in Disney cartoon land, where to much of the information is dished out in superficial opinionated dummy form, in short segments separated by long consumer advertisement blocks, and all paid for by the money people who really run the Country.

What happens in Thailand might effect some of us living here as expats, but most likely wont, at the moment Thailand stand neck deep in their own shit, and the rest of the world really don't care that much, the few of us who have come to have some measure of affection for the influence disenfranchised normal Thai people, do have our opinions on the matter, as can everybody else round the world if they please, but it really isn't going to change anything because the present powers in Thailand think they are superior to everybody else, and for that reason are convinced they don't need to listen to advise from anybody, the Country are slowly but surely heading towards a major internal conflict between the have not and the have.
Most of us have the fortunate privilege, that when the time comes we can up and leave, not so for the poor Thai People, who have been trampled under foot for so long, by the unbelievably incompetent and totally useless Thai upper-classes, who in their monumental ignorance fail to recognise the World winds of change, lot's of those poor Thais will have to die before things here will change.

Now that is something for Glenn Beck to cry about, but he probably couldn't even point Thailand out on a map.



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^ Good rant.

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Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.
Hey Jet, apropos of this

If you're desperate and... 21-09-2009 09:34 AM Jet Gorgon Why do you care what the Thais do?

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?
Forgot to answer my Q about Time and twisted the subject to the US? Da usual.
The US does affect Canada's economy greatly.
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From a right wing blog (Peter Wehner),………….

Glenn Beck: Harmful to the Conservative Movement

Unlike others associated with Time magazine, David von Drehle is a skilled, careful, and perceptive writer. So I was interested in his cover story on FOX News’s Glenn Beck, who is considered to be a red-hot commodity these days.


I don’t pretend to be an expert on Beck. In the past I assumed he was a typical figure in the pundit and cable-media world. Only recently have I watched portions of his television program, as well as interviews with him, and heard parts of his radio program. And what I’ve seen should worry the conservative movement.


I say that because he seems to be more of a populist and libertarian than a conservative, more of a Perotista than a Reaganite. His interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting, as is his admiration for Ron Paul and his charges of American “imperialism.” (He is now talking about pulling troops out of Afghanistan, South Korea, Germany, and elsewhere.) Some of Beck’s statements—for example, that President Obama has a “deep-seated hatred for white people”–are quite unfair and not good for the country. His argument that there is very little difference between the two parties is silly, and his contempt for parties in general is anti-Burkean (Burke himself was a great champion of political parties). And then there is his sometimes bizarre behavior, from tearingup to screaming at his callers. Beck seems to be a roiling mix of fear, resentment, and anger—the antithesis of Ronald Reagan.


I understand that a political movement is a mansion with many rooms; the people who occupy them are involved in intellectual and policy work, in politics, and in polemics. Different people take on different roles. And certainly some of the things Beck has done on his program are fine and appropriate. But the role Glenn Beck is playing is harmful in its totality. My hunch is that he is a comet blazing across the media sky right now—and will soon flame out. Whether he does or not, he isn’t the face or disposition that should represent modern-day conservatism. At a time when we should aim for intellectual depth, for tough-minded and reasoned arguments, for good cheer and calm purpose, rather than erratic behavior, he is not the kind of figure conservatives should embrace or cheer on.

Link: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/100152

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Link: http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=53094



Then there is this,………(Beck is going to anger those 20 percenters),……….

Bush started on the road towards socialism, started the crazy spending, started the bailouts and I hated him for that.

YouTube - Beck: I 'Hated' Bush For The Bailouts


More to the story: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/21/beck-bailout-bush/
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Old 22-09-2009, 01:18 PM   #232 (permalink)
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I'm going to have to disagree with Mr. Wehner there, because in this:
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Beck seems to be a roiling mix of fear, resentment, and anger
Beck seems to nicely encapsulate a ever growing number of conservatives.

He's correct in saying it's bad for the conservative movement of course, but Beck's no more than a mouth-piece for the underlying resentment and such, a symptom not the cause.
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Old 22-09-2009, 01:52 PM   #233 (permalink)
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^In one of the links I posted above, many responses (at hotair) about the article support Beck and his shows.

I would hope some right wingers would read the article and question,………….Is Beck doing good for the Conservative movement or doing more harm?

If some right wingers start questioning Beck, maybe more would.

It is a start.
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Old 22-09-2009, 02:57 PM   #234 (permalink)
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Is Beck doing good for the Conservative movement or doing more harm?
He is doing much harm to the GOP who seem to have yet to figure out the way to move the vast majority of conservatives to their cause. It is these moderate conservatives and independents the GOP needs to court if they ever expect to win elections. Most conservatives lean closer to the middle than the extreme right wing rhetoric heard from Beck and others of his ilk.

On the other side, the Dems have to be aware, calling someone a racists who has a legitimate opposition to a particular Dem supported issue will only result in losing the moderate Dems who also lean more to the center.

Either party that does not appeal to the moderates and independents (known in the past as the silent majority) will never win a major election.
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Old 22-09-2009, 03:09 PM   #235 (permalink)
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I would need to see that character next time I watch Faux

is he worst than Oreilly ? that would be pretty hard to beat,
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I would need to see that character next time I watch Faux

is he worst than Oreilly ? that would be pretty hard to beat,
Beck is the "try to be funny, a little bit excited guy."

O'reilly seems negative, cycincal, and criticizes almost every thing with a negative tone of voice. He's a whinger.

Beck is the happy counterpart.

Hannity: over-the-top, willfully ignorant, and Hannity seems to have the less sophisticated base. High school vocabulary and critical thinking process.

It's interesting, if you separate these TV and radio personalities you might notice (at least I do), the differences, although they are similar.

I'd like to see a breakdown of their audience demographics. I assume they know the socio-economic background, geographical location clusters, etc. of who is watching who.
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Beck likes to dig up issues, and he's uncovered good stuff lately -- Jones and ACORN. He's got great ratings and if the left is spewing so much vitriole on him, that means he's doing his job. The photographer who took all those crybaby photos, had Beck pose as such. She kept the snaps and is now selling them off. Haven't heard Beck trying to sue like a libbie would. He likely thinks it's hilarious, and good promo for him.
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Beck likes to dig up issues, and he's uncovered good stuff lately -- Jones and ACORN. He's got great ratings and if the left is spewing so much vitriole on him, that means he's doing his job. The photographer who took all those crybaby photos, had Beck pose as such. She kept the snaps and is now selling them off. Haven't heard Beck trying to sue like a libbie would. He likely thinks it's hilarious, and good promo for him.
Many conservatives don't like Beck. I am not on the "left" and I don't like him at all Beck.

It's the dishonesty, the showmanship, and the way he presents his info.

One example:

In July of 08 he patted his hadn on a piece of white paper sitting in front of him on his desk.

He claimed it was an IRS document that revealed that the Middle Class was shrinking because they were moving into the upper middle class.

This is factually false. The middle class has been shrinking since 1970 and they are moving downward.

He never told us where we viewers, could read this document. He never showed the document or cited his source.

As I've said before: if anyone wants to follow policy issue they have to read about them. No TV, or radio.
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In July of 08 he patted his hand on a piece of white paper sitting in front of him on his desk.

He never told us where we viewers, could read this document. He never showed the document or cited his source.

As I've said before: if anyone wants to follow policy issue they have to read about them. No TV, or radio.
Milkie, do TV anchors ever tell you this stuff? I don't believe totally what anybody tells me in the media, print or otherwise. What I said was, Beck uncovers issues and he has gotten results by doing so. Of course, he is not a rocket scientist, but he has charisma and knows how to draw people in, just like Obama.
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Yes, Beck is getting ratings. And he's also getting book sales.

This is an industry. It's a genre.

They study what works and what doesn't.

Like you, I'm skeptical of all forms of media. Some are better than others.

I've given my opinion where Beck stands - at the bottom. He add his own opinions to many things he "reports" on. This isn't journalism or like being an anchor. And I understand that that is not his objective.
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