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Old 26-11-2008, 02:32 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Wow, Gates goes from evil warmonger to competent strategist overnight.

Amazing.

BO's not even in office yet, Sabang. The starry-eyed honeymoon will be over soon enough.

You might want to have your stomach X-rayed for the hook, line and sinker.
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Old 26-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I wonder if either of you are actually able to find any references at all to Gates as an 'evil warmonger' from anyone on this forum. Rather inconvenient to your theory if you can't.
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Old 26-11-2008, 02:41 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I wonder if either of you are actually able to find any references at all to Gates as an 'evil warmonger' from anyone on this forum. Rather inconvenient to your theory if you can't.
you've heard of guilt by association right?? a common enough tactic in law enforcement and politics. it isn't us that have accused him of being an 'evil warmonger' but i guess that hypocrisy was lost on you eh?
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Remember all those hundreds, maybe thousands of references to the failed administration? I do.

This guy was/is a central part of that.

But it's cool. Now he's a clever military strategist. It's all good.
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I wonder if either of you are actually able to find any references at all to Gates as an 'evil warmonger' from anyone on this forum. Rather inconvenient to your theory if you can't.
you've heard of guilt by association right?? a common enough tactic in law enforcement and politics. it isn't us that have accused him of being an 'evil warmonger' but i guess that hypocrisy was lost on you eh?
Are you being intentionally dim? Who has accused him of being an 'evil warmonger'?
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Old 26-11-2008, 04:03 PM   #66 (permalink)
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I wonder if either of you are actually able to find any references at all to Gates as an 'evil warmonger' from anyone on this forum. Rather inconvenient to your theory if you can't.
you've heard of guilt by association right?? a common enough tactic in law enforcement and politics. it isn't us that have accused him of being an 'evil warmonger' but i guess that hypocrisy was lost on you eh?
Are you being intentionally dim?
no more so than you are..
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I wonder if either of you are actually able to find any references at all to Gates as an 'evil warmonger' from anyone on this forum. Rather inconvenient to your theory if you can't.
of course texpat can't back it up. in fact, as an example, here's my post approx 48 hours after the election...

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it's a virtual certainty that there will be at least 1 republican in obama's cabinet. above all, gates is competent....which is exactly what was needed after the first 5 + years of 'rumsfeldian' fuck ups. however, i wouldn't be totally surprised if he didn't want to step down in january....my feeling at the time was that he took the job not because he wanted it, but rather felt duty bound to take it.

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Old 26-11-2008, 04:42 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Remember all those hundreds, maybe thousands of references to the failed administration? I do.

This guy was/is a central part of that.

But it's cool. Now he's a clever military strategist. It's all good.
what a load of crap. by any measure, it is a failed administration....if you could take your partisan blinders off for just a moment, you might be able to see that.

gates was brought in (most likely at the request of jim baker and 41) to help clean up the mess created by the first six years of the GWB administration.

after wasting billions in treasure and thousands of lives, it was past time for adults to start taking the lead roles in US foreign policy....and gates fits the requirements. i certainly don't agree with him on every issue, but he's competent and responsible....unlike rumsfeld.

but go ahead texpat, show us a single instance of anyone on this board saying anything derogatory or negative about gates. it may exist, but i don't remember reading it.

but you made the post, now back it up.

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Old 26-11-2008, 09:53 PM   #69 (permalink)
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No, Reach Around, I remember it well. But I don't go on scavenger hunt's on your orders. Get over yourself.

Gates took over from Rumsfeld on Dec 18, 2006. Almost two years ago. And in those intervening two years you and your nutty brothers have howled constantly about US military policy and operations around the world. Mr Gates has been the leader of that organization for two years...

Just seems a bit hypocritical now to embrace this suddenly studied, efficient, likable guy as a smart choice, Reach Around, don't you agree?

Can we all say hypocrites together?

Yes we can!
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but go ahead texpat, show us a single instance of anyone on this board saying anything derogatory or negative about gates. it may exist, but i don't remember reading it.

but you made the post, now back it up.
you made a claim in which you attempted to malign other posters, and you should be able to support that claim, right?

if you can't, just man up and admit it.

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Old 26-11-2008, 10:16 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I've never been critical of Gates.
i don't think anyone here in issues has been.....but texpat disagrees.

i look forward to reading the post in which provides evidence of this.
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Old 26-11-2008, 10:17 PM   #72 (permalink)
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^Geez pick any one of your anti-Bush threads or any number of your own regurgitating posts on the topic of the Iraq war or the Bush admin prior to the elections.. I know it's difficult for a leopard to change its spots but for Christ sakes stop being so intentionally obtuse RC..
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Old 26-11-2008, 10:23 PM   #73 (permalink)
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^ That's RA.

The Surge, which was roundly ridiculed by the TD numb skulls, yet turned out spectacularly successful -- all Gates.

I agree he's a decent selection for the Obamaniacs -- but let's be honest with ourselves. There are quite a few here that have ridden this guy for years and now suddenly embrace him as their own.

Hilarious.
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Old 26-11-2008, 10:28 PM   #74 (permalink)
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well, this is all very unseemly texpat.

either come up with the evidence or admit you were wrong.....surely your mommy told you that was the correct thing to do, right?

but this is becoming boring, so i guess i'll leave you off the hook....and stop expecting even the smallest measure of accountability from you.
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Old 27-11-2008, 02:38 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Heh...reach-around is the ultimate dick, eh?
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Old 27-11-2008, 05:13 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Heh...reach-around is the ultimate dick, eh?
Here's a quote Boon.


All someone has to do is quote a Bush/Iraq bashing post on a date after Gates came on board. I'm not anal-retentive enough to do it. Sorry.
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Old 27-11-2008, 05:53 AM   #77 (permalink)
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You gotta hand it to Barry, he's the slickest political charlatan to grace the landscape since William Jefferson.

He's marching lockstep with GWB now. The lefties with half a brain are apoplectic.

Since most of them don't have a brain they're still swooning over their Messiah.
it's fucking hilarious.

Obama is taking the bull by the horns admirably.
I wish him all the luck in the universe.
He's gonna need it with all the fukwits out there.
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Old 27-11-2008, 08:25 AM   #78 (permalink)
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you've heard of guilt by association right?? a common enough tactic in law enforcement and politics.
Ah, yes - it's that sophisticated blogger logic, isn't it?
Someone on 'the left' allegedly has said something, so everybody on 'the left' is guilty of thinking the same. Denying it only exposes hypocrisy.

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it isn't us that have accused him of being an 'evil warmonger' but i guess that hypocrisy was lost on you eh?
Ah, because you have not accused him, someone else must have. And this is hypocrisy. Of the other, not you.
Yep, this reasoning follows logic. lol

Who is "us", anyway??? Your playmates in kindergarden?


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There are quite a few here that have ridden this guy for years and now suddenly embrace him as their own.
So, you would need to show at least one comment from before, and one now for each poster you name.
You failed with sabang and ray, and nobody has yet claimed Gates "as their own".
It's just hyperbole designed to insult, nothing more.
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Oh, some more convincing 'arguments':
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All someone has to do is quote a Bush/Iraq bashing post on a date after Gates came on board. I'm not anal-retentive enough to do it. Sorry.
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Since most of them don't have a brain they're still swooning over their Messiah. it's fucking hilarious.
He!
That's quality boys, you should be greening and pm-ing each other to celebrate this victory in the latest 'debate'. LOL
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The Surge, which was roundly ridiculed by the TD numb skulls, yet turned out spectacularly successful
really ? maybe you don't get the news in your village shithole, but the damages are still going, they are just more located instead of being widespread, and parts of the country have been abandoned to local war lords, so I would hardly call the surge a success, more like a stop against an immediate pullout ala Saigon.
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