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Old 21-11-2008, 03:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Why do people keep referring to Obama as a black or a negro?
Because that's what he promotes. The only time he talks about his white family is for sympathy votes about his mom and the big bad insurance companies who would not cover her for cancer treatment and a few nice things about his white Grandma (the one who called blacks bad names, according to his book) and then his trip to Hawaii to see her. Thought it strange the whole fam didn't go to visit her last summer on their vakay -- they all went to HW but only BO went to see her, as I saw on the various networks. Did he go to her funeral? That kinda got shuffled over in the press. He's not what he appears to be, IMO, but you libbies keep on dreaming.
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Old 21-11-2008, 04:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You have missed the point all the way along
No, you missed the point, as is seen in further posts

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you threw a hissyfit
Please provide a link for said 'hissy fits'

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bet you've always taken care of all the abos in your neighbourhood
Nope, I mentioned that there are none in my neighbourhood, nor do I know any, which I also mentioned. The term 'Abo' is also considered derogatory and racist . . . no surprise that you use it.

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Figure it out.
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That's my point.
And she doesn't get it. Better end it here as jet can't just quietly acknowledge errors and will screech on and on while dispensing reds . . . (Oh, thanks for the red, Jet)


I think the term 'black' sticks to someone until they 'look' white . . . I'm sure many here know 'blacks' that are as far removed from being 'black' as most of us here. It is an easy label to stick on someone, especially if it is meant as a derogatory term.
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Old 21-11-2008, 04:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If you sincerely care what he does write to him and the other congressmen. People are just to lazy to get active. I know I am.
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Old 22-11-2008, 03:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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a lot of sour grapes on this thread.
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Old 22-11-2008, 07:16 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 23-11-2008, 05:04 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Why do people keep referring to Obama as a black or a negro?
Because being black turned out to be his main qualification for running and getting elected.
A white man with his credentials wouldn't have been considered in a million years.

Barrack H. Obama is the "Black" pride of America.
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Old 23-11-2008, 06:51 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Why do people keep referring to Obama as a black or a negro? He is as much white as he is black (one white parent, one black). How many % white do you have to be before you are referred to as such?
A white has to have no noticeable African features or he is considered black, even if he is 15/16th white. It is quite weird. Almost like a stigma.
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Old 23-11-2008, 06:59 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Why do people keep referring to Obama as a black or a negro?
Because being black turned out to be his main qualification for running and getting elected.
Laughable.

Obama is the once in a generation polician: articulate, well-read, smart, pragmatic, a great orator, and has an ability to resonate with people.

Additionally, he's got a unique background.

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A white man with his credentials wouldn't have been considered in a million years.
A white man with Obama's credentials and above qualities I noted above would have gotten more votes and beaten McCain by a wider margin.

We'll see how Obama does. I think he's the best candidate out of all of the candidates of both parties for this election.
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Old 23-11-2008, 10:04 AM   #29 (permalink)
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^ Yep, too smart and suave by far. Waiting for the real agenda and fallout.
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Old 23-11-2008, 10:09 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Waiting for the real agenda and fallout.
And what might be the real Obama agenda and fallout then Jet?

I doubt, in your wildest dreams, it can match the neo-con fantasy of world hegemony that the Bush administration so unsuccesfully foisted on the first few years of the 21st century.
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Old 23-11-2008, 12:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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There's nothing wrong with populating one's cabinet with insiders if they're skillful, ethical and intelligent. After all, where else is one going to find the sort of experience needed to govern? Obama runs the show and appointees have specific, subordinate functions within their cabinet positons. However, if Hillary becomes Secretary of State, it would be a huge disappointment. She ran a sleazy presidential campaign, is highly sycophantic to Israel and has little of the charm and diplomatic skill of her husband. Isn't this the same woman who said in the presidential debates that she wouldn't talk to hostile regimes such as Iran? Now she will be in a diplomatic post where she may be forced to do exactly that. Christopher Hitchens rightly called her pending appointment a 'ludicrous embarassment".

Christopher Hitchens Calls Hillary Clinton As Secretary Of State A "Ludicrous Embarrassment"
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Old 23-11-2008, 12:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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looks like the old Clinton team is back in the WH,

Obama is a smart man, may Allah bless him
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Old 23-11-2008, 01:13 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yeh, I've got reservations about Hillary as SoS. I thought she might be destined for health- but Daschle was an excellent good pick there, imo. She carries a fair bit of political weight, so for political reasons should probably be offered something, but I don't think making her the foreign mouthpiece puts a desirable slant on the Obama administrations 'new broom'.

One insider too many, one compromise too far imo.
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Old 23-11-2008, 02:01 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 23-11-2008, 03:09 PM   #35 (permalink)
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^ Nope, just healthy debate instead of simply swallowing everything that is handed out . . . and if you don't then you're un-American or a Communist . . . or an un-American Communist!

Sour grapes, BM?
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Old 23-11-2008, 08:59 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Sour grapes, BM?
Naw... not really. Think I'm becoming more apolitical these days. Waiting for a good topic to come along ant & myself can really get our teeth into!

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Old 23-11-2008, 11:01 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Yeh, I've got reservations about Hillary as SoS. I thought she might be destined for health- but Daschle was an excellent good pick there, imo. She carries a fair bit of political weight, so for political reasons should probably be offered something, but I don't think making her the foreign mouthpiece puts a desirable slant on the Obama administrations 'new broom'.

One insider too many, one compromise too far imo.
I think Hillary accepting SoS is a bad move for her at this stage. If things go badly for Obama over the next four years she will be tied to it by default. Thus making hard for her to run against him in the primary’s in four years time.

If things go well for Obama then he’ll be the lock in four years to run again for the blue team, and where will Hillary be? Surely she won’t hang around as SoS for eight years?

I think she would have been better off hanging around in the Senate, moving up the seniority chart, and waiting out the next four/eight years.

I think offering the SoS job to Hillary is a bad move for Obama – now he will have her and Bill in the shadows of everything he does internationally. A real risk of people questioning who is calling the shots on international issues. Especially considering the international front is probably where he and Hillary agree the least on things.
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Now she will be in a diplomatic post where she may be forced to do exactly that.
no she won't her hubby will....she'll just be the facade.....as the analysts say she'll just be riding his well placed network..
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A real risk of people questioning who is calling the shots on international issues.
posted my above before I saw this, exactly..
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Old 24-11-2008, 12:56 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I don't like Hillary as SoS.

Perhaps BO is catering to her camp, to solidify himself.

BO is the boss on paper, but HRC will be conducting a lot of policies at her discretion when it comes to the bureaucracy of State: Embassy, consulates, etc.
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