President Obama News Thread

[Boon Mee]

Heh & double heh:

POLITICO: Independents begin to edge away from President Obama. “In a potentially alarming trend for the White House, independent voters are deserting President Barack Obama nationally and especially in key swing states, recent polls suggest.”

He's going down faster than Jimmuh scuttling away from that killer rabbit!

[Boon Mee]

Body language says it all...



Has BO lost his mojo or what?

Russians — even the young, starry-eyed ones (!) — have seemed more intelligent than Americans lately…

“We don’t really understand why Obama is such a star,” said Kirill Zagorodnov, 25, one of the graduates. “It’s a question of trust, how he behaves, how he positions himself, that typical charisma, which in Russia is often parodied. Russians really are not accustomed to it. It is like he is trying to manipulate the public.”

No shit...

[sabang]

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

“In a potentially alarming trend for the White House, independent voters are deserting President Barack Obama nationally and especially in key swing states, recent polls suggest.”

From the same article-
Obama’s job approval rating hit a — still healthy — low of 56 percent in the Gallup Poll on Wednesday.

Independents begin to edge away from President Obama - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

You have unemployment hovering around 9.5% and yet to pick up, and a massive Bailout package, and a recession. Republicans must be scratching their head how Obamas numbers can be so high! He remains the most popular President of the previous four administrations at this stage, and under dire economic conditions.

The vast majority of the bailout money has yet to be spent, and of course there is always a lag before employment numbers start to turn around. One thing is for sure- a lot depends on the performance of the economy over the next twelve months. But even government economists were not suggesting an upturn in employment until the second half.

[Jesus Jones]

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 30% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-eight percent (38%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of –8. The President’s Approval Index rating has fallen six points since release of a disappointing jobs report last week (see trends).

Thirty-nine percent (39%) now give the President good or excellent marks for handling the economy while 43% say he is doing a poor job. Those are by far his lowest ratings yet on the economy Premium Members can see crosstabs, trends, and Scott Rasmussen’s Daily Briefing.

There is a gender gap when it comes to perceptions of Obama’s performance. By a 46% to 27% margin, men Strongly Disapprove. Women are more evenly divided—33% Strongly Approve and 30% Strongly Disapprove.

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Yep, more jobs lost and folks can't get jobs, small businesses (70% of US job makers) can't get loans and are gonna get hit by cap'n'trade, and the stimulus has done zip six months later.

[sabang]

Untrue Jet, the stimulus has basically saved the US banking system. Maybe GM & Chrysler too (we'll see ). Oh, and there is the small matter of AIG.

I didn't want to break it to the masses early on, but this was always the first priority. Sorry people. The moneys for employment stimulus are only just beginning to flow.

[Jet Gorgon]

Originally Posted by sabang

Untrue Jet, the stimulus has basically saved the US banking system. Maybe GM & Chrysler too (we'll see ). Oh, and there is the small matter of AIG.

I didn't want to break it to the masses early on, but this was always the first priority. Sorry people. The moneys for employment stimulus are only just beginning to flow.

WTF? TARP was for the bladdy banking system. GM and Chrysler got separate bailout pkgs. Stimulus 1 was to boost the economy and create new jobs. Oh ya, they could squeeze some of that in after funding libbie senators' pork projects, like Pelosi's mouse revival concert. New jobs? 5555555 And I hear now that Barney fekin Frank is going to use the money banks repaid on TARP to bail out retard McMansion homeowners who have always been on McMuffin pay.

[sabang]

^ We'll all just have to wait and see, won't we?
Republicans ferked it, Dem's are trying to fix it.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ You avoided the point of the Stim pkg purpose and the other points, SB. You doing a ray?

[Panda]

Its all going to plan so far. The printing presses are churning out the paper money to keep the wheels turning and other countries are buying the stuff with real money. Cant see why any Yanks should be complaining. Its a pretty good deal to be able to buy yourself out of debt at no cost to yourself.

Dems, Republicans, doesn't matter. Basically the same plan would have been on the table since there is no other option. Obama has just thrown in a few other social services into the mix. Someone else is going to end up paying for it all in the end when the rest of the world realizes the USA is awash with paper money and short on productivity.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Other countries have real money? 555

[sabang]

The government announced some time back the Stim would not effect employment figures until the second half. So far, jobs have been saved rather than created- GM, AIG & so on. Only a fraction of the Stim monies dedicated to job creation (Keynesian stimulus, if you like) have been spent. And I sincerely hope you know what 'Lag' is- there is always a lag in employment at the end of a recession. And we are not at the end of the recession yet- it may well get worse. It is even possible that more stimulus money may be required- it certainly is not possible to rule that out, anyway!

The fact that you will be unrelentingly negative is a given Jet, seeing as your beloved Republican right was trounced at the elections and has been falling apart ever since. To say the least, it colours your judgement and reduces your credibility. At least I can not accuse you of being unpatriotic, as you are Canadian.

But the fact is, it is too early to pronounce the Stim a success, failure, or somewhere between. The fact is, the next Pres elections are over three years away. The fact is, we'll all have to wait and see. It's kind of a pity though that you seem terrified, and personally threatened by Obamas success.

[Jet Gorgon]

Nice try, SB, but not what you stated before about the stim going for bank and auto bailouts. So, you did a libbie and start talking about other stuff. Uh, huh. And yes, I know unemployment lags the economy, but gee, all of the data are pretty darned mucked up, huh? It's been six months since the Stim bill was bulled through Congress. How long you think folks are gonna wait? Same as the second coming, I reckon.

Originally Posted by sabang

Untrue Jet, the stimulus has basically saved the US banking system. Maybe GM & Chrysler too (we'll see ). Oh, and there is the small matter of AIG.

I didn't want to break it to the masses early on, but this was always the first priority. Sorry people. The moneys for employment stimulus are only just beginning to flow.

[sabang]

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

about the stim going for bank and auto bailouts.

I stated that is where the money has gone so far Jet:-

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

The moneys for employment stimulus are only just beginning to flow.

Incidentally, I do not want to see too much money allocated to direct employment stimulus. The stim package should not try to be 'all things to all people'- because it has to be paid for!

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Matter of semantics then. The banks had a bailout, the auto ind had a bailout. The $782 bil stimulus pkg was to stimulate the general economy (like saving Pelosi's marsh mice, etc) and create jobs, separate from the two bailouts above, or am I wrong?

[Boon Mee]

Well, back on topic which is BO's News, eh? Does all this idiot do at G8 Summits is check out chick's asses? Even Sarko thinks BO is an adolescent buffon...





Perhaps he loves fat asses so much since his old lady has one that can set a whole dinner setting on hers eh?

[sabang]

^ Is that Sara Palin?


Honduran minister sacked for Obama slur

Honduras's de facto foreign minister has resigned after calling US President Barack Obama a "little black man," interim president Roberto Micheletti says.

Enrique Ortez Colindres presented his resignation after referring to Obama as "negrito," which in Spanish is the masculine diminutive word for black.

Micheletti, who took power earlier this month in a military-backed coup, distanced himself from the comments.

"It was an incident in which he gave a scandalous epithet," Micheletti told reporters on Friday.

Honduran minister sacked for Obama slur

It's a good thing our angry Right wingers aren't Politicians.

[Milkman]

To add to the discussion between Sabang and Jet about the stimulus, I am curious if it will keep unemployment steady in the second half, if at all.

How can this even be measured.

Personally (as an economic) layman I don't understand how the stimulus funds can be allocated properly, to keep unemployment down. Yes, some jobs have been saved.

But as for "creation" of jobs, I see short term construction jobs, and perhaps a few more sales.

My hometown used stimulus money to buy a Toyota mini van used by the government.

Did one minivan keep Toyota workers (I assume in the US?) from getting laid-off?

[Panda]

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ Other countries have real money? 555

I am talking about money backed by productivity and/or natural resources rather than just spiraling debt. Currently, the worth of other countries paper money is measured against the value of the $US, which is kinda silly since the US is basically bankrupt with no hope of paying for its ever increasing debt unless their currency devalues drastically.

[Butterfly]

that was GW Bush, dummy, not Obama

Obama is Gold, why do you hate your president and America, Storekeeper ?