President Obama News Thread

[panama hat]

Originally Posted by mao say dung

^ whereas repeating "knuckle-draggers, knuckle-draggers, knuckle-draggers" 3 times, then spinning around in your little dress, will get you out of Kansas?

Np, but if you'd like it to, feel free, don a frock and spin away . . . that's the nice thing about being liberal . . . I accept alternative lifestyles.

[mao say dung]

^Sorry, hon, but I'm the only liberal in this conversation.

I'm pretty sure that when ol' John Stuart proposed allowing good arguments to drive out the bad as a primary virtue of the liberal freedom of speech, he wasn't thinking of old men in little girls' dresses chanting "knuckle-dragger, knuckle-dragger, knuckle-dragger" to drown out equally vacuous types droning "libbie".

I'm also sure that acting like a petulant ten year-old is not really an "alternative lifestyle"; it is, however, almost certainly pathetic.

Oh, and could you possibly find another label for your confusion and spite? "Liberal", to my mind, has a certain ring of intelligence and integrity about it. Wouldn't want to get any of that on your dress now would we?

[Norton]

Originally Posted by mao say dung

"Liberal", to my mind, has a certain ring of intelligence and integrity about it.

Yes, it is a very "conservative" word. A "proper" word as the Brits would say.

Knuckle dragger and libbie don't resonate well in proper, conservative circles. Only fit for the gauche illiterate utterances of the peasantry.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ I'm gonna tell my friend Libby that.

[Lambik]

Originally Posted by panama hat

No, it is the mantra that many knuckle-draggers repeat ad nauseum when they rise to give them something to do ., . .

Quite sad, really.

I wonder why Jet doesn't leave Canada if she finds it so horrid . . . I guess leaving your home for the first time can be tough, even if you are in your 50s

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50 !? rather 60, she was a hippie, well at least according to her.

[Jet Gorgon]

Hey, even Helen is coming to task! (Watch the vid)
At the White House presser on Wednesday, several correspondents questioned the way the Oval Office selected questions from the public for today’s virtual town hall.
President Barack Obama answered pre-selected questions Wednesday afternoon about health care sent in from emails, Facebook and Twitter. CBS’ Chip Reid and columnist Helen Thomas thought this reflected a lack of transparency at the White House.
Helen Thomas hits White House for lack of transparency

And ain't this interesting (again)

As MSNBC and CNN battle for second place, second-quarter Nielsen numbers show Fox News' programs now rank one through 10 in total viewers on cable news...
The McCarville Report Online: Fox News Dominates Cable News Ratings

People are waking up.

[raycarey]

obama was in russia yesterday........










sarah palin said she could see him from her backyard.


hat tip to david letterman.

[panama hat]

Originally Posted by raycarey

hat tip to david letterman.

You betcha!

[Boon Mee]

Here's a good one I'm going to quote verbatem. It turns out when BO goes on one of his apology tours, he's got a teleprompter that spits out the following - easy, eh?

"Greetings great and mighty culture, I am the Obama, leader of New America. I am a cultured, urbane, black man with a Muslim name and I carry no baggage.

Your culture is great and wonderful, your poets brilliant, I will now quote one I have never read. Your food is wonderful, I will now mention a dish I have never eaten.

Our countries have had issues in the past and they were all the fault of the old America, run by old white men.

Your country has done no wrong and any history of atrocities or rapaciousness or repression was just a reaction to Western meddling.

I apologize on behalf of the old white men who wronged you.

New America will not judge you, we will not pretend our free culture is better than your backward tyranny.

We just want you to like me us."

Ripped from here

[Jet Gorgon]

^ 55

DId you see him in Russia? No fans packing the streets and Putin lecturing him for almost an hour on cold war stuff before spreading out with looks of disdain in his chair at the press interviews like he was forced to be nice with a two-year-old, Obama.

Had to add this from an email:

He's Barack Obama | Funny Video Animation by JibJab

[Dug]

spreading out with looks of disdain in his chair at the press interviews like he was forced to be nice with a two-year-old, Obama.

You noticed that too.
Obama didn't look particularly comfortable in such company either.
Way out of his league.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Funny that about body language. The Russians never suffer fools gladly. Putin is the current epitome of that stance.

[Panda]

Well, he did indulge in some tough talk for the domestic audience just before he left sending a message to Russia that they better just quit this cold war attitude or America would be very cross with them.

I am sure the Yanks lapped it up, but obviously the Russians didn't think it was very nice.

[sabang]

I think you'll find it was Putin who was treated like the two year old- Obama had breakfast with him at his villa, the rest of the time he spent talking to Medvedev.

Obama Puts Medvedev Ahead of Putin

Forget the nuke deal, forget the speech, forget even the Russians' lack of interest in Michelle: The real surprise of President Obama's trip to Moscow this week was that he spent most of his time talking to the Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, and took only a couple of hours to pay a courtesy call on the Russian prime minister and former president, Vladimir Putin.

washingtonpost.com

By all accounts, Obama and Med had some productive discussions. On the substantive side, the US was allowed to fly over Russian air space on flights to Afghanistan, and agreement was reached on a reduction in nuclear warheads.

Obamas speech to the Economic school graduates was actually pretty good- although methinks designed to put Putins nose out of joint- unfortunately however it was not widely broadcast in Russia. Oh well.

I don't see how anyone can favourably compare the Neo-con/ Bush admin foreign policy now to Obamas, unless your version of US foreign policy consists of waving a schtick at the rest of the world. Obama is achieving much more with reasonable dialogue (and flowery speeches ) than Bush ever did with his 'old white man' stick wavers like Bolton and Cheney. And, when it comes to war, Obama Is giving the Taliban some stick- unlike the half arsed efforts of the previous paper tigers.

He gets high marks from me on foreign policy. On domestic policy, it's wait and see how the Bailout fares, and how his Healthcare reform package eventuates.

[larvidchr]

^
Well if that is true it would be a big diplomatic mistake if Obama was actually there to achieve something, Putin is running Russia and Medvedev is just a puppet if there ever was one.

But maybe it was deliberate to show Putin that his old cold war style talk is not being appreciated in the US.

In any case to get anywhere with Putin I believe you have to be extremely tough and you have to stick it to Russia on points where you can hurt, otherwise this old KGB officer is going to try to muscle you, he only understand the old primitive ways.

[sabang]

Ahhh, but you could say the same about the Neo-Cons larv- and look how far they got with Putin/ Russia.

Georgia on my Mind

You might say Obama is proceeding from a low base.

[Jet Gorgon]

Originally Posted by sabang

I think you'll find it was Putin who was treated like the two year old- Obama had breakfast with him at his villa, the rest of the time he spent talking to Medvedev.

What planet are you on, SB? Everyone knows Putin rules.

Originally Posted by larvidchr

^
Well if that is true it would be a big diplomatic mistake if Obama was actually there to achieve something, Putin is running Russia and Medvedev is just a puppet if there ever was one.

Yep.
I liked the cuts in war toys -- US cuts its new-fangled warheads, Russia cuts crap from the 1950s warehouse.

[sabang]

^ And USAF planes can fly over Russian airspace. Carnt have seen that happening with Bush admin diplomacy.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ 555 Good slide off the topic there, SB.
Anyhoo, the Ruskies know where the US planes are now. (You think Putin does nice things just coz Obama wants to be friends?)

[panama hat]

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Here's a good one I'm going to quote verbatem.

Just ever so slightly misleading . . .