Thread: Joe the Plumber? Not a plumber. And not even called Joe

I lived in the UK with socialist governments who regarded anyone with an income as "lucky" and saw my business as a store to be raided in order to provide, not just for the incapable, but the lazy. This is where the UK is today and I am glad to be out of it.

When was that then?

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Joe the Plumber? Not a...19-10-2008 01:41 AMattaboy"Could itbe that Sen. McCain's concern for his own wallet?" Absurb.

What's the point of redding a post in a thread without addressing it in the thread itself? That spells lack of intellect to me.

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By American standards Margaret Thatcher was socialist.

Until now the Democrat party has been somewhere to the right of the UK Conservatives.

Originally Posted by HungryHeart

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

B) People with good jobs are "lucky"

Agree with your other points, Thorm, but I wouldn't consider us "lucky". Worked hard to get where I am. Luck only came into the equaton because I worked for it.

Blah Blah Blah .

What type of great success do you think you are ?

I'm retired here at 37 with a monthly income of around 200,000 baht give or take exchange rates.


And I fully support what Obama is proposing, McCain will simply be supporting his Bush cronies with absurd corporate tax breaks.

You will see that Jet's world is neatly divided into two worlds and there is no gray area.
very similar to Bush's view of 'us and them'. Not a criticism, wouldn't dare, merely a representation of past posts.

Luck (if it exists) ,or being at the right place at the right time has a lot to do with where or what we are, in terms of profession and place in society. Hard work comes into the equation but seldom leads us to the top . . .

You retired at 37? Jet is only two years behind you, she retired at 39.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Do Americans really buy into this shit?

yes

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Don't Americans realise it when they are being patronised?

no

Eat the rich....

"Joe the Plumber"; "Joe Sixpack" etc.

It all strikes me as being rather nauseatingly patronising.

^How about "Joe the proctologist"..has a nice ring to it.....

^ Right up Ant's alley.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Joe the Plumber? Not a...19-10-2008 01:41 AMattaboy"Could itbe that Sen. McCain's concern for his own wallet?" Absurb.

What's the point of redding a post in a thread without addressing it in the thread itself? That spells lack of intellect to me.

Because you were being absurd. Put another way, it was a stupid statement on your part. It wasn't worthy of anymore than an expression of disappointment in your lapse.

Should every citizen who has a question of a presidential candidate expect to be analized by bureaucrats and the media?

Inspector general investigating access to Joe the Plumber's personal information
Monday, October 27, 2008 11:33 AM
Updated: Monday, October 27, 2008 05:48 PM
By Randy Ludlow
The Columbus Dispatch

Ohio's inspector general is investigating why a state agency director approved checking the state child-support computer system for information on "Joe the Plumber."

Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK'd the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.
She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.


Amid questions from the media and others about "Joe the Plumber," Jones-Kelley said she approved a check to determine if he was current on any ordered child-support payments.


Such information was not and cannot be publicly shared, she said. It is unclear if Wurzelbacher is involved in a child-support case. Reports state that he lives alone with a 13-year-old son.


"Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look" at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."


Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles confirmed today that he is investigating the incident to determine if "Joe''s" records were legally accessed by Job and Family Services employees.


The use of a state computer system to search for information on Wurzelbacher is the fourth uncovered by The Dispatch.


Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland [who appointed Jones-Kelly this past January] is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said.

Helen Jones-Kelley who authorized the check on poor Joe donated the maximum amount to Barack Obama.


Yep, smear and persecute a common citizen who asks a question of a presidential candidate. The resulting attack which occurred within 24 hours after Joe spoke goes to show that Demos aren't about sticking up for the little guy's right to speak. The media reported that he wasn't licensed and he didn't have enough money to buy a business. So what? That gives them the right to publicly destroy his dreams? The media showed themselves to be a prejudiced tool of Obama on this attack of a US citizen.

Now that Joe is being bused around for rallies he is fair game much like when it was discovered that Cindy Sheehan was a weapon directed by CODE PINK. The Republicans laid off of Sheehan for weeks allowing her to voice her grief, but when it was learned she was hooked up with CODE PINK she became a contestant in the ring.

The initial attack by Democrats via their media stooges was outrageous. What does the man's ambitions vs his finances have to do with his right to ask a question of Obama? Should every citizen expect to be analized by Democrat operatives within the bureaucracy as well as media stooges?

Originally Posted by attaboy

Yep, smear and persecute a common citizen who asks a question of a presidential candidate.

Give it a rest, attaboy . . . neither side has the monopoly on virtue . . . and I believe McCain is the one being roundly criticised for his tactics.

Totally grabbing at straws

In another mistake, IMO, McCain is using this poster child, still:

McCain rolls out 'Joe the Plumber' on campaign stop

Thu Oct 30

AFP/Getty Images – Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (R), Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher (C) and …

SANDUSKY, Ohio (AFP) – Republican John McCain campaigned alongside Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher here Thursday as he attempted to woo voters in the pivotal battleground of Ohio.

McCain appeared alongside Wurzelbacher in an informal rally at a town square gazebo in this midwestern town as part of a two-day bus tour of Ohio, a state he almost certainly must win to claim the White House.

Wurzelbacher was adopted as the de facto mascot of McCain's campaign after he quizzed Barack Obama over his tax plan, claiming the Democrat's policies would leave him worse off if he tried to buy his own business.

McCain has used the burly shaven-headed Wurzelbacher to support his claims that Obama is a tax-and-spend liberal determined to hit ordinary working class Americans in the pocket.

In front of cheering crowds, Wurzelbacher, who had failed to show at an earlier rally Thursday, leaving McCain redfaced, the plumber urged voters to "get informed."

Link & Entire: go to yahoo.com - my email is tied to the link. sorry.

This keeps getting sillier by the minute:

Joe the Plumber hires his own publicity team

6:03PM Friday Oct 31, 2008



Samuel 'Joe' Wurzelbacher was back on the campaign trail with John McCain, six days out from the US presidential election. Photo / AP


NASHVILLE, Tennessee - Like all good celebrities, Joe the Plumber - the unofficial star of the last presidential debate - has hired a publicity team...

Joe the Plumber hires his own publicity team - 31 Oct 2008 - NZ Herald: International and World News

Maybe he should be the VP nominee . . .

Seriously, the McCain/Palin campaign is getting sillier and less professional every day

Make him President. He's whiter than Obama and likely to live longer than McCain. Should be a landslide.

Welcome to the Orwellian future that awaits those who ask a question of the Anointed One: State employee says she was ordered to check out Joe the Plumber.

Vanessa Niekamp said that when she was asked to run a child-support check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16, she thought it routine. A supervisor told her the man had contacted the state agency about his case.

Niekamp didn’t know she just had checked on “Joe the Plumber,” who was elevated the night before to presidential politics prominence as Republican John McCain’s example in a debate of an average American.
The senior manager would not learn about “Joe” for another week, when she said her boss informed her and directed her to write an e-mail stating her computer check was a legitimate inquiry.


The reason Niekamp said she was given for checking if there was a child-support case on Wurzelbacher does not match the reason given by the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services.


So what do Obamathons think of that, eh?

Come on, let's wait to see what the checking will be on BO's social security-collecting illegal immigrant "aunti".

If there is one type beyond the farthest reaches of progressive tolerance, it is the normal, decent American. Liberal hatred for people like Sarah Palin and Joe Wurzelbacher is nothing short of evil.

Here's San Franfreakshow Obamunist, homosexual activist, HuffPo scribbler, and liberal radio yapper Charles Karel Bouley (aka "Karel") calling for the death of Joe the Plumber during a newsbreak, via Radio Equalizer (warning — the language isn't pretty):

Death is Joe's due for wanting to own a business and having the audacity to ask The One if his taxes would go up.

This should give you an idea of why liberals will need the Unfairness Doctrine if they are ever going to compete with conservatives on the radio. Most Americans just aren't rotten enough to be on their wavelength.

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