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| Thailand Travel Forum | There are none so blind as those who cannot see, eh? BO is a Chicago thug with a slick delivery is all. Open yer frikkin' eyes... Feds and Rezko Piecing together Ayers, Giannoulias, Obama By Chicago Daily Observer Tony Rezko used Alexi Giannoulias bank to float $450,000 in bad checks, while campaigning for Alexi’s brother Demetris to be placed on the Illinois Finance Authority Board. Demetris Giannoulias was on the Board at the Crossroads Fund, a Chicago Based left wing organzation supported byBill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and Barack Obama, which made grants to such stellar organizations as ACORN and other affordable housing swindlers. In 2002, Rezko borrowed $10.5 Million from Broadway Bank, the Giannoulias family bank, the same bank where Barack Obama kept his Senate campaign funds. In 2006, Sen. Obama endorsed Alexi Giannoulias for Illinois State Treasurer, and gives Sec. Giannoulias a slot to speak at the Democratic National Convention"
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I honestly didn't think it could get any worse than the first vid you posted, clearly I was wrong. It does beg the question though: are McCain/Palin, by their use of these negative tactics, helping to inspire the hatred and bigotry or are they merely tapping into (an apparently) rich vein and merely giving it further voice? In either event the sheer ignorance anddownright stupidity of some people is mind-boogling.
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| The more desperate and mud slinging the Republican Right gets, the more their Polling numbers slump. It's probaby at the point that Obama need not even bother responding any more, and just let the GOP self immolate. Rezko and Obama? Fugeddabout it. From a Right Wing Blog- Rezko also was friendly with Obama - offering him a job when he finished law school, funding his earliest political campaigns and purchasing a lot next to his house. But based on the known facts, charges so far and testimony at Rezko's trial, there's no indication there'll be an October surprise that could hurt the Democratic presidential nominee - even though Rezko says prosecutors are pressing him for dirt about Obama. "I think this strikes fear into the Blagojevich administration and the Statehouse Democrats but not into the Obama campaign," says state Sen. Kirk Dillard, R-Westmont, a John McCain delegate to the GOP convention but an old friend of Obama. American Thinker Blog: Rezko Singing: Obama Sweating? Alexi Giannoulias I had not even heard of until today. From the same Blog, some wishful thinking- "Alexi Giannoulias, who became Illinois state treasurer last year after Obama vouched for him, has pledged to raise $100,000 for the senator's Oval Office bid. Before he promised to raise funds for Obama, Giannoulias bankrolled Michael "Jaws" Giorango, a Chicagoan twice convicted of bookmaking and promoting prostitution. Obama's ties to the Giannoulis family have been shrouded in mystery. If Fitzgerald can untangle the web, there very well may be something there that would cause Mr. Obama a lot of trouble - after he was president. For in truth, there is no chance this will come out before the election. Fitzgerald has proven himself to be a very careful prosecutor - especially when aiming high - and will no doubt seek to build his case slowly. He may end up not even indicting Obama, seeing the enormous problems in trying to bring Obama to trial. But you can bet that Obama will be interviewed several times by the prosecutor and will himself, be on tenterhooks as to his fate. Obama was simply caught up in business as usual Chicago politics - where there are times you can't tell the difference between the businessman, the politician, and the mobster. It is from this political culture our next president will have sprung." You're whistling Dixie diehards- and meanwhile the McCain campaign offers a pretty much total vacuum of meaningful policies. Drill baby Drill just doesn't cut it I'm afraid. You'd better hope McCain has got a rabbit up his sleeve in the next debate, but I doubt it.
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Obama traveled to Chicago to start his career. That's where he chose to go. He made a conscious decision to get involved in the corrupt radical-leftist Chicago politics. Being a Hawaiian native why didn't he start his career there as a native son?
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In politics, not everyone you rub shoulders with is squeaky clean- just ask John McCain, who was more closely associated with Keating and other fraudulent bankers than Obama ever was with Rezko. That doesn't make you a criminal. Which is why people outside of the increasingly desperate Republican Right are just not listening- we know what to expect from the bloggers, and McCain and Palin are realising their approach of trying to sink to their level has just turned more swinging voters against them. | |
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| Thailand Expat Last Online: 29-10-2009 01:57 AM Join Date: Mar 2006
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| Since this is the Blog Spot, I want to give my 3 cents. Did you guys know that McCain is responible for the Financial Crisis. He is a big supporter of Israel and looked the other way when BIG money was transferred to Israel. October 7, 2008 400 Billion sent to Israeli banks prior to Lehman Bros. bankruptcy. “There is a very serious aspect to the current economic collapse that no one wants to discuss, neither the economic pundits, the media or the scared politicians. This concerns an aspect of the subprime scams and, basically and stripped of euphemistic words and propaganda phrases, is that very large amounts of money from various banks and financial institutions and the owners and controllers thereof were, and are being, sent outside this country to a secure area. I am speaking most specifically of American business frantically sending, electronically, huge amounts of money to banks in Israel. The three banks that are getting most of the stolen money are: Hapoalim group, Bank Leumi group, Discount Bank group. It is not necessary to mention that the senders are all Jewish and it should be noted that Israeli banking concerns practice strict banking security (see their Protection of Privacy Law, 1981 [PPL]) Under the PPL, “an infringement of privacy is, inter alia, a violation of an obligation to maintain secrecy regarding a person’s private affairs, established by explicit or implicit agreement.” The bank’s obligation of secrecy extends not only to the details of the client’s account but also to all transactions related to the account In other words, if the US authorities want to know about this, they can bend over while the Israeli bankers drive them home. And if the sticky-fingered ones decide to make a quick flight to Israel ahead of FBI investigators, like their new accounts, they are entirely safe. Note here that Israel does not extradite its citizens. But it does allow prosecutions in its own courts for crimes committed abroad. None of this information is really secret but is well-known to investigative bodies such as the Department of State and the FBI. Currently,U.S. law-enforcement personnel and prosecutors, who fear that Israeli-oriented economic criminals will use the Jewish state as a refuge. Lehman Brothers Shipped Off $400B Just Before Bankruptcy… Nice ! McCain: "My dear friends, you have probably seen our European friends say, 'Well, the Israelis have got to stop.' But what would we do if somebody came across our borders and killed our soldiers and captured our soldiers? I think so. I'm a student of history and anybody who is familiar with the history of the Jewish people and with the Zionist idea can't help but admire those who established the Jewish homeland. Last edited by HermantheGerman : 16-10-2008 at 02:29 AM. |
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| Thanks. I followed the link. The story doesn't jibe with the accompanying Bloomberg news report. Bloomberg says Lehman brothers experienced a loss in the value of their assets. it doesn't say anything about the bank moving money to Israel. September 22, 2008 Lehman Brothers' $8bn US transfer raises hackles The administrator for Lehman Brothers' European business asked for the return of $8 billion transferred from Europe to New York just before the bank's collapse Lehman Brothers' $8bn US transfer raises hackles - Times Online This probably the story which spawned the unsubstantiated story about monies transferred to Irsael. |
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| Nowadays its getting harder and harder to find the truth in the net (Teakdoor too When you think about how many Jewish-Russians have fled with big $ € to Israel, you might want to believe the first story. But here is a story which is true 100%. The German Finance Ministry declared itself shocked—shocked!—on Wednesday at the news that a state lending bank, KfW, had transferred €300 million ($426 million) to Lehman Brothers in New York on Monday, just after the investment bank collapsed. "What we have had to read today is astonishing and exasperating," Finance Ministry spokesman Torsten Albig told reporters. "We expect a swift explanation of such a technical failure, which is inexplicable to us." The trouble is, KfW is overseen by the Finance Ministry, among other elements of the German government, and the country's finance minister, Peer Steinbrück, holds ultimate responsibility for the bank's health. Ratings agency S&P said KfW's sudden exposure to such a loss would not hurt the bank's credit; but KfW was already burdened by the collapse of another German bank, IKB, in the wake of the subprime crisis last winter. KfW was IKB's largest shareholder, and it oversaw a deal -- on behalf of the public -- to sell the bank to American investors at the firesale price of ¬100 million. The bargain basement sale, however, came only after taxpayers were required to pay billions to bail IKB out. The money transfer between KfW and Lehman was called an erroneous swap -- a swap being a derivative agreement between two parties to exchange one stream of cash flow for another. German papers on Thursday morning are no less shocked by the deal than the Finance Ministry, and they want an explanation for what seems like terrific mismanagement of publicly insured money. The center-left Süddeutsche Zeitung writes: "Who is responsible when something goes wrong in a state-run bank? A range of politicians sit at the head of KfW's supervisory board -- from Finance Minister Peer Steinbrück (a Social Democrat) and Michael Glos (a Christian Democrat) to the head of the Left Party, Oskar Lafontaine. Of course these bank managers can't personally follow every securities transaction. But it must have been clear to these political leaders that something had gone wrong with the bank's risk-management capability -- at the very latest in February, when IKB, the medium-sized bank which the KfB controlled with a majority of shares, collapsed." "The IKB debacle cost the KfW -- and, in the end, German taxpayers -- billions. Handlers around Steinbrück and Glos should have done everything in their power to prevent another collapse. Instead, Steinbrück has used every opportunity to wag his finger (at private banks) and talk down the damage this financial crisis will cause the German economy. Anyone who calls for better risk management in private banking has to first make sure that his own house is in order." The business daily Handelsblatt writes: "There are certain mistakes that just can't be allowed to happen at a bank. Transferring ¬300 million to Lehman Brothers -- an institution that had already shown itself to be a candidate for bankruptcy the night before -- is one of those mistakes. The state-owned lending bank KfW will now have to provide a detailed account of how it could have made such a misstep. What's more important, though, is that it needs to take a really close look at its in-house risk-management department and make the changes needed to make sure something like this can never happen again." "KfW has undergone immense growth over the past few years. It has grown more entwined in the capital market and thereby diversified its own refinancing. But now is the time for Germany's ninth-largest bank (in total assets) to ask itself whether the growth of its internal structures has kept sufficient pace with the bank's other growth and whether it still has all of its other functions under complete control." The center-right Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung writes: "When the supervisory board of Germany's state-owned lender bank KfW meets on Thursday, there's likely to be an animated debate. The overseers on the hopelessly bloated 37-member board won't manage to dodge the question of how the bank ran billions and billions of taxpayer euros into the ground. So far, the government bailout of IKB Bank, partially owned by KfW and deeply exposed in the subprime crisis, has cost €11 billion, with €9 billion of that coming from the federal budget, from KfW and from the taxpayers. Freed of those liabilities, with €2 billion in fresh capital and a debtor warrant to the tune of over €1 billion, IKB is now being sold for just over €100 million. That isn't what good business deals look like. To top things off, the bank on Monday transferred €300 million to Lehman Brothers as it declared bankruptcy. It just doesn't get any more dilettantish than that. The board shouldn't let this pass with a nod -- instead they should be asking what right a KfW bank run like this has to exist." The leftist daily Die Tageszeitung writes: "Anyone who watched TV, listened to the radio or read the newspaper over the weekend saw or heard images showing Lehman Brothers employees rushing to clean out their offices. But the two KfW employees must have slept through all that on their well-earned weekend. Now they'll likely lose their jobs. Business-friendly opposition politicians like the Free Democratic Party aren't the only ones criticizing the bank and asking how state bank employees could deal so incompetently with money that is backed with almost limitless taxpayer guarantees?" "The Lehman collapse could cost the German banking system a total of €6 billion. It's not even certain whether the Association of German Banks' Deposit Guarantee Fund will be sufficient to cover the sum. The banks may have to pump more money in to cover the losses, which could affect the overall economy. The same banks that for far too long earned easy money through mortgages for American junk real estate have now become overly cautious, and are demanding massive liability premiums. The economy is cooling off markedly -- and jobs will soon be lost. It's high time that politicians, not just in Germany, put regulation of the financial markets at the top of their agendas." |
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| Jihad Barbie Last Online: Yesterday 11:18 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies
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| MM, there are blacks who are uneducated and racist, too. And there are many Conservatives who are educated, not racist and well-mannered. I view your posts as discriminatory. Let's have a look at some black folks. Here's blacks in Harlem interviewed. From Howard Stern's radio interviewer. Oops, the interviewer uses McC's campaign policies and even asks if they like Palin as Obama's VP. The people asked all agree. None of these folks know who's running for what or even who their running mate is. Here's some other interesting black views... |
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| The fact that Obama is half black is largely irrelevant to me- but one side benefit of his succesful campaign (win or lose the Election) is that it has brought both black and white racism into the spotlight, whilst clearly exposing it as a minority. I think this will be good for America. |
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| Then we differ Jet. My experience is that Racism (at least of the virulent variety) is not something that applies to the majority. I threw in the Disclaimer because I am not referring to what one might term more functional types of racism, or clannishness, examples being- -an individual might hold a degree of resentment against the Moslem community because of Islamic fundamentalism, and Terrorism. But he will treat the Arab American who runs the local convenience store as he would anyone else. Ralph Nader is Arab, you know. - a woman might resent Black crime, and not even contemplate going to a Ghetto area. But she will listen to Obama as she would any other smooth talking, articulate Politiciam. -I, as an expat, resent what seems to me the xenophobic attitude of many Korean people. I also resent the often appalling bad manners shown by the Chinese (mainly in China). But when I meet a person or people from these countries, I will not automatically lump them into that stereotype. They will be given the same chance as anyone else. It seems to me most people are pretty much like that in the West. Using the US as an example again, a Black racist will automatically vote Obama, a White racist probably McCain- but certainly not Obama. There are many, many more whites than blacks in the US- yet Obama safely leads in the Polls (Bradley effect yet to be decided). So how can this virulent form of Racism apply to anything other than a minority? |
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My point is about the election campaign strategy - and only that. My topic is the election strategy to garner this particular base by McCAin/Palin. | |
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| Jihad Barbie Last Online: Yesterday 11:18 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies
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| ^ + ^^. I agree with you both SB and MM. The point I was making is that it's the gang/group mentality. Black friends hid me in the car's back seat floor when we went to Watts to visit friends; Chinese friends won't go alone to East Indian neighbourhoods; blacks won't go alone to some white locales. It's not the one-on-one atmo, it's the group against the lone minority. It's the ethnic groups against the perceived racist others. One on one, most folks can get along. When it's the group against the group, it's often total discrimination mostly in fear of the unknown, IMO. |
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| Another video. Sheesh. I just learned that BO is a terrorist, a communist, a socialist, and all kinds of other stuff. These rural whites from Bethleham, Pennsylvania, seem very well read and on top of things. |
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| Keep at it, MM. I think we both know that it is OK and nonracist to interview rural white folks and make fun of their narrow viewpoints, but people would immediately be stomped on as RACIST if they interviewed black people who are just as stupid, uninformed or misled and then laughed about them. You know it's true. |
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I criticize the behavoir or black and hispanics and posters on the board criticize me, for criticizing the actions and words of some uneducated black and hispanics. And like whites, I'll continue to criticize them. I'm not stopping. | |
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