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Old 11-10-2008, 01:33 PM   #61 (permalink)
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CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the non-profit projects in which the two men were involved.

Internal reviews by The New York times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic "have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship".

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This figures. Both wiki and the liberal MSM are run by radical leftist terrorist apologisers.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:47 PM   #62 (permalink)
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^ Oh, thats right. And the NY Times, Time, Washington post and so on.
Guess we'll have to wait for the right wing blogs to tell us the truth then.
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"Old Japanese proverb: When you don't know a man's character, look at his friends."

Ayers: The Day I Bombed The Pentagon
No, he’s not a terrorist...
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I think that when a person like ANDY MARTIN is expsosed and known for what he is, it will hurt McCain. There are some that will still believe his lies, but the world will get out.

Interestingly and sadly, FOX news had Andy Martin on TV to accuse BO of "training with terrorists" in front of 3 million views, and FOX did not question nor challengehis claims, nor attempt to corrorborate them.

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The man behind the whispers about Obama

Andy Martin helped spread false rumors about Dem that spread across Web


By Jim Rutenberg
updated 4:17 a.m. ET Oct. 13, 2008

The most persistent falsehood about Senator Barack Obama’s background first hit in 2004 just two weeks after the Democratic convention speech that helped set him on the path to his presidential candidacy: “Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion.”
That statement, contained in a press release, spun a complex tale about the ancestry of Mr. Obama, who is Christian.

The press release was picked up by a conservative Web site, FreeRepublic.com, and spread steadily as others elaborated on its claims over the years in e-mail messages, Web sites and books. It continues to drive other false rumors about Mr. Obama’s background.

Just last Friday, a woman told Senator John McCain at a town-hall-style meeting, “I have read about him,” and “he’s an Arab.” Mr. McCain corrected her.

Until this month, the man who is widely credited with starting the cyberwhisper campaign that still dogs Mr. Obama was a secondary character in news reports, with deep explorations of his background largely confined to liberal blogs.

False claims

But an appearance in a documentary-style program on the Fox News Channel watched by three million people last week thrust the man, Andy Martin, and his past into the foreground. The program allowed Mr. Martin to assert falsely and without challenge that Mr. Obama had once trained to overthrow the government.

An examination of legal documsents and election filings, along with interviews with his acquaintances, revealed Mr. Martin, 62, to be a man with a history of scintillating if not always factual claims. He has left a trail of animosity — some of it provoked by anti-Jewish comments — among political leaders, lawyers and judges in three states over more than 30 years.

He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”

Though he is not a lawyer, Mr. Martin went on to become a prodigious filer of lawsuits, and he made unsuccessful attempts to win public office for both parties in three states, as well as for president at least twice, in 1988 and 2000. Based in Chicago, he now identifies himself as a writer who focuses on his anti-Obama Web site and press releases.

'I’m a colorful person'

Mr. Martin, in a series of interviews, did not dispute his influence in Obama rumors.
“Everybody uses my research as a takeoff point,” Mr. Martin said, adding, however, that some take his writings “and exaggerate them to suit their own fantasies.”
link and entire: NYT: Who's behind Obama whispers? - The New York Times - MSNBC.com
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Old 13-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #65 (permalink)
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He is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”
So, in the final analysis, the usual suspects on here that picked-up and gleefully ran with the whole Obama=Muslim thing (you know who you are) were repeating and spreading rumours instigated by a mentally ill man...

He's got an excuse, what's yours?
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Old 14-10-2008, 03:53 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Obama's Weatherman shows which way the wind blows
"the record shows that connections between Obama and Dohrn have actively continued since Obama launched his political career in their living room in 1995".

After the Charles Manson-led Tate-LaBianca murders in 1969, Dohrn enthused:
"Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach! Wild!"

Yeah! This is the kind of guy we want as President!
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Old 14-10-2008, 04:29 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Yeah! This is the kind of guy we want as President!
Which party is Dohrn a candidate for?
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Old 14-10-2008, 05:28 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Yeah! This is the kind of guy we want as President!
Which party is Dohrn a candidate for?
Guilt by association?
Water seeks its own level?
Birds of a feather?
To know a man's character, look at his friends?

...you get the drift...
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Old 14-10-2008, 09:47 PM   #69 (permalink)
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*bump*

Awful quiet from the Libtards on this topic. Let's see, why not recap some of BO's finer charcter traits shall we? Actually, he was fucked from birth so to speak!

Father - Communist activist
Mother - Communist symphasizer
Brother(Roy) - Luo activist, militant muslim, marxist
Bill Ayers - American terrorist, marxist
Bernadine Dohrn - Wife of Bill, American terrorist, marxist

Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ‘Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ‘it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,' he said. ‘It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.'...

In 1969, after the Manson family murders in Beverly Hills, Ms. Dohrn told an S.D.S. audience: ‘Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach.' In Chicago recently, Ms. Dohrn said of her remarks: ‘It was a joke. We were mocking violence in America. Even in my most inflamed moment I never supported a racist mass murderer.'"

Father - Communist activist
Mother - Communist symphasizer
Brother(Roy) - Luo activist, militant muslim, marxist
Bill Ayers - American terrorist, marxist
Bernadine Dohrn - Wife of Bill, American terrorist, marxist


William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn,

Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as: ‘Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. And he says he doesn't actually remember suggesting that rich people be killed or that people kill their parents, but ‘it's been quoted so many times I'm beginning to think I did,' he said. ‘It was a joke about the distribution of wealth.'...

In 1969, after the Manson family murders in Beverly Hills, Ms. Dohrn told an S.D.S. audience: ‘Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach.' In Chicago recently, Ms. Dohrn said of her remarks: ‘It was a joke. We were mocking violence in America. Even in my most inflamed moment I never supported a racist mass murderer.'"

http://anti-strib.blogspot.com/

Sad day for America and the planet if this POS gains the WH...
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Old 14-10-2008, 09:56 PM   #70 (permalink)
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those are some terrible things there Boon, you are gonna be really pissed when he gets elected, guess we won't hear too much from you for 4 years then.
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those are some terrible things there Boon, you are gonna be really pissed when he gets elected, guess we won't hear too much from you for 4 years then.
Nah...I'll continue to slag him...
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Old 14-10-2008, 11:19 PM   #72 (permalink)
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those are some terrible things there Boon, you are gonna be really pissed when he gets elected, guess we won't hear too much from you for 4 years then.
Nah...I'll continue to slag him...
Got that right. Every pork project from Congress that the WH fails to veto will be up for ridicule. I'll be waiting: BO would tax the crap out of companies that make money (and supply jobs) and give all them po folk free handouts. There'll be po folk with no ambition with money and no ambition. Probably go buy another house since they lost the last one coz they didn't pay the bills. No prob, go get another one.
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those are some terrible things there Boon, you are gonna be really pissed when he gets elected, guess we won't hear too much from you for 4 years then.
Nah...I'll continue to slag him...
Got that right. Every pork project from Congress that the WH fails to veto will be up for ridicule.
This is fair, enough and should be done. We should also remember that all pork is bad, IMO. The GOP does the same.

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I'll be waiting: BO would tax the crap out of companies that make money (and supply jobs) and give all them po folk free handouts.
I disagree on this.

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There'll be po folk with no ambition with money and no ambition. Probably go buy another house since they lost the last one coz they didn't pay the bills. No prob, go get another one.
I don't think BO or McCain should advocate buying bad mortgages. The market should be allowed to take its course.

Both candidates support socialistic policies. Remember this.
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I don't think BO or McCain should advocate buying bad mortgages. The market should be allowed to take its course.
For sure. People have to take responsibility for themselves, unless they are totally unable to do so. That's why I oppose socialism.
Still beg to differ on BO's tax policies, but, let's see what happens.
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Here are some rural whites from Ohio.

It's a quick 2:00 video, but nonetheless, reveals what these working class whites in rural areas are like:

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CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the non-profit projects in which the two men were involved.

Internal reviews by The New York times, The Washington Post, Time magazine, The Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The New Republic "have said that their reporting doesn't support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship".

Bill Ayers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This figures. Both wiki and the liberal MSM are run by radical leftist terrorist apologisers.
The last time I read Ayers' wiki page it was whitewashed. It's locked now. I guess some people weren't buying the bull. Id' like to know when the above periodicals and CNN (quite a list of lefties) did their investigating because the University of Chicago where Ayers' teaches refused to release the Chicago Annenberg Challange papers. They've only been released as of September.

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Then how come they had to restruncture the relationship between the CAC board (which held the purse strings) and the Collaborative (which set education policy)after 1995? Collaborative members like Ayers were themselves up for CAC grants, stronger barriers had to be created between the board and the Collaborative. So after 1995, Ayers appears to have lost his ex officio status on the board, and the Collaborative lost its prominent role in advising the board on grant applications.
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...It's a quick 2:00 video, but nonetheless, reveals what these working class whites in rural areas are like...
Yep very revealing; thick, uneducated, ignorant, racist, bigoted hicks.

I wonder if that reporter told them he was from Al Jazeera, I'd imagine not or they probably would've lynched him for being an A-rab, Mooslem, commie-loving terrorist.
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^Heh...who's thick ya Ginger-haired Maori Kunt!

Educate yourself for a change, eh? Start by absorbing the views of others than far-left Moonbats like this guy Thomas Sowell - who happens to be Black:

Says It All
Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom some serious money changed hands.

Some gave political support, and some gave financial support, to Obama’s election campaigns, and Obama in turn contributed either his own money or the taxpayers’ money to some of them. That is a familiar political alliance— but an alliance is not just an “association” from being at the same place at the same time.

Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America. No amount of flags on his campaign platforms this election year can change that
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Here is some more nasty footage of angry rural whites. Also, Palin repetition of the the Bill Ayers non-story. Another quick video. And, equally ugly.

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