My New Martial Law Thread for the USA

[Jesus Jones]

As we reported yesterday, the Marine Corps Air and Ground Combat Center has dispatched uniformed and presumably armed (we have no confirmation of the latter) soldiers to assist the California Highway Patrol (CHP) in the operation of unconstitutional sobriety checkpoints in San Bernardino County, California, the largest county in California and the country (San Bernardino County is directly east of Los Angeles).
On the Alex Jones Show today, Gary Daigneault, News Director at KCDZ-FM based in Joshua Tree, California, said the California Highway Patrol was less than forthcoming with their plan to team up with the military police, a direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act preventing the military from performing civilian law enforcement duties.
Press releases faxed to KCDZ-FM. Click to see a larger image.
After running an editorial last week reminding the Marines stationed at the Marine Corps Air and Ground Combat Center of the illegality of such an operation, the California Highway Patrol sent the radio station a fax indicating that the action would not include military police (see faxes at right).
As a KCDZ-FM news report broadcast today points out, by law — to avoid entrapment — the California Highway Patrol is required to provide the location of its checkpoints to the media at least two hours prior. Although the CHP did provide the radio station with a telephone number to get this information, when the number was called there was no answer.
Moreover, “to add insult to injury,” Marine Corps military police, in uniform and in marked military police cars, were indeed teamed up with CHP outside of a Home Depot in the town of Yucca Valley.
After examining the documents faxed to KCDZ-FM, it becomes obvious that the CHP in Joshua Tree deliberately released disinformation to the media designed to cover its participation with the Marines, as noted a direct violation of Posse Comitatus.

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[Butterfly]

so how are we doing in this thread ? Martial Law should be imminent by now

andrew are you still there ?

[bkkandrew]

^I see the heckler got rejected by his latest ladyboy conquest last night...

12300+ posts and not a single contribution to make.

[Panda]

^I see the heckler got rejected by his latest ladyboy conquest last night...

12300+ posts and not a single contribution to make.

Every board needs a villain/heckler to stir things up.

We have Butterfly here with his inane comments.
It could be worse though, as sometimes he actually comes out with a post that half makes sense. I just hope he doesn't seek help and start taking meds or we could loose a very colourful, if somewhat laughable, character.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ lose, Panda, lose

[Butterfly]

Every board needs a villain/heckler to stir things up.

We have Butterfly here with his inane comments.
It could be worse though, as sometimes he actually comes out with a post that half makes sense. I just hope he doesn't seek help and start taking meds or we could loose a very colourful, if somewhat laughable, character.

how cute, a new stalker. Instead of following me around like a dog, why don't you try to sound intelligent and make a meaningful post with a valid argument instead ? Hiding behind you petty insults is not making you any more credible or intelligent. You are just an intellectual coward and you know it

[Muadib]

I'm a bit curious as to why sobriety checkpoints are unconstitutional... Been going on for decades... You would think the ACLU would have been on this like stink on you know what if it were true...

It appears the US government is doing as much as it can to stem to tide of economic meltdown, regardless of the fact that much of it was caused by modern day robber-barons...

Don't see martial law in the near future... That is unless BO turns out to be one of the lizard people and the exterminations start soon...

[bkkandrew]

A new report by the U.S. Army War College talks about the possibility of Pentagon resources and troops being used should the economic crisis lead to civil unrest, such as protests against businesses and government or runs on beleaguered banks.

“Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,” said the War College report.

The study says economic collapse, terrorism and loss of legal order are among possible domestic shocks that might require military action within the U.S.

International Monetary Fund Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn warned Wednesday of economy-related riots and unrest in various global markets if the financial crisis is not addressed and lower-income households are hurt by credit constraints and rising unemployment.

U.S. Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and U.S. Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., both said U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson brought up a worst-case scenario as he pushed for the Wall Street bailout in September. Paulson, former Goldman Sachs CEO, said that might even require a declaration of martial law, the two noted.

State and local police in Arizona say they have broad plans to deal with social unrest, including trouble resulting from economic distress. The security and police agencies declined to give specifics, but said they would employ existing and generalized emergency responses to civil unrest that arises for any reason.

“The Phoenix Police Department is not expecting any civil unrest at this time, but we always train to prepare for any civil unrest issue. We have a Tactical Response Unit that trains continually and has deployed on many occasions for any potential civil unrest issue,” said Phoenix Police spokesman Andy Hill.

“We have well established plans in place for such civil unrest,” said Scottsdale Police spokesman Mark Clark.

Clark, Hill and other local police officials said the region did plenty of planning and emergency management training for the Super Bowl in February in Glendale.

“We’re prepared,” said Maricopa County Sheriff Deputy Chief Dave Trombi citing his office’s past dealings with immigration marches and major events.

Super Bowl security efforts included personnel and resources from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. military’s Northern Command, which coordinated with Arizona officials. The Northern Command was created after 9/11 to have troops and Defense Department resources ready to respond to security problems, terrorism and natural disasters.

Northern Command spokesman Michael Kucharek and Arizona Army National Guard Major. Paul Aguirre said they are not aware of any new planning for domestic situations related to the economy.

Nick Dranias, director of constitutional government at the libertarian Goldwater Institute, said a declaration of marital law would be an extraordinary event and give military control over civilian authorities and institutions. Dranias said the Posse Comitatus Act restricts the U.S. military’s role in domestic law enforcement. But he points to a 1994 U.S. Defense Department Directive (DODD 3025) he says allows military commanders to take emergency actions in domestic situations to save lives, prevent suffering or mitigate great property damage.

Dranias said such an emergency declaration could worsen the economic situation and doubts extreme measures will been taken. “I don’t think it’s likely. But it’s not impossible,” he said.

The economy is in recession. Consumer spending is down, foreclosures are up and a host of businesses are laying off workers and struggling with tight credit and the troubled housing and financial markets. The U.S. Federal Reserve Bank and U.S. Treasury Department have pumped more than $8.5 trillion into the economy via equity purchases of bank stocks, liquidity infusions, Wall Street and bank bailouts and taxpayer rebates. U.S. automakers are seeking more than $14 billion in federal loans with fears they could fall into bankruptcy without a bailout. The U.S. housing and subprime lending-induced recession also has hit economies in Europe, Japan and China.

Gov. Janet Napolitano’s office declined comment on emergency planning and possible civil unrest. Napolitano is president-elect Barack Obama’s pick for secretary of Homeland Security, an agency that oversees airport security, disaster response, border security, customs and anti-terrorism efforts.

From:

Ariz. police say they are prepared as War College warns military must prep for unrest; IMF warns of economic riots - Phoenix Business Journal:

[Butterfly]

How does it feel to wake up every morning and live in a world of paranoia fantasy ? yes, question for you bkka

[Rural Surin]

I have always been under the impression, that the USA was in a continuous state of Martial Law/Police State....most just don't recognize it.

[DrAndy]

true RS

The report that BkkA quoted for us would be a little self-serving, to say the least

Is their budget review coming up?

[Butterfly]

I have always been under the impression, that the USA was in a continuous state of Martial Law/Police State....most just don't recognize it.

good point actually. It's indeed already a police state.

[Muadib]

I've been saying that the US is the most restrictive "Free Society" in the world for years... Nothing new here... The US will do whatever is necessary to maintain the panacea of peace & order, from propping-up failing industry to squashing uprisings.... Some other countries could take a lesson from the US in this respect... We will see other countries in complete meltdown before this ever happens in the US...

[bkkandrew]

How does it feel to wake up every morning and live in a world of paranoia fantasy ? yes, question for you bkka

I wouldn't know - and in any case my previous post on this thread was in the evening UK time.

What was you last post that wasn't simply a heckling piece of tripe? Yes, a question for you Butterfly.

[bkkandrew]

Ho hum:

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The NYPD wants all 1,000 Police Academy recruits trained to use M4 automatic machine guns - which are now carried only by the 400 cops in its elite Emergency Service Unit - in time for the holiday celebration in Times Square.

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CITY COPS PREP FOR &#39;MUMBAI&#39; - New York Post

[barbaro]

I thought about putting this elsewhere, but couldn't find an appropriate thread. Here it is.

This is...odd. Is this a sign of things to come?

CNSNews.com
Army Investigating How and Why Troops Were Sent Into Alabama Town After Murder Spree

Wednesday, March 18, 2009
By Pete Winn, Senior Writer/Editor

U.S. Army soldiers from Ft. Rucker patrol the downtown area of Samson, Alabama after a shooting spree March 10, 2009. (Photo: Reuters/Mark Wallheiser. Used by permission. )


(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Army has launched an inquiry into how and why active duty troops from Fort Rucker, Ala., came to be placed on the streets of Samson, Ala., during last week's murder spree in that tiny South Alabama community. The use of the troops was a possible violation of federal law.

Link: CNSNews.com - Army Investigating How and Why Troops Were Sent Into Alabama Town After Murder Spree

[Muadib]

^ Will probably be swept under the rug under the guise of the Homeland Security Act...

Nothing to see here, move along, or we'll tazer your arse and throw you in a detention camp...

[blackgang]

They did nothing except stand around and do nothing, just thee physical presents to help secure and protect a crime scene in a town without sufficient police to do the job at hand and I see nowhere anything other was done in the line of law enforcement and to damn many are always looking for a conspiracy, Milky to name a few subversive assholes.
I think he must be an undercover Brit.

Ft Rucker is a part of that community and if help was needed they could have called the base and asked for help and could have granted the Army the equiv. of shore liberty to anyone that wanted to go into town to help, and I can bet that there would have been plenty of volunteers in civies to fill any request.

Jim Stromenger, a dispatcher at the Samson Police Department, confirmed the MP’s presence in the town, telling CNSNews.com that the troops “came in to help with traffic control and to secure the crime scene”--and the department was glad for the help.

“We’ve been getting a lot of calls,” Stromenger said. “They weren’t here to police, let me make that clear. They were here to help with traffic and to control the crime scene--so people wouldn’t trample all over (it).”

Stromenger said the town needed help--calls had gone out to all police departments in the area.

“We only have a five-man police department,” he told CNSNews.com. “We had officers from all surrounding areas helping out. There were a lot of streets to be blocked off and there had to be someone physically there to block them off. That’s what these MPs were doing. I don’t think they were even armed. The troops helped keep nosy people away.”

But Stromenger said it wasn’t the Samson Police Department that called for the troops.

“I don’t know who called Fort Rucker. But someone did. They wouldn’t have been able to come if someone hadn’t,” he added