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sabang · 05-09-2008, 01:43 PM

I guess the rather lukewarm response to this thread does indicate that the choice of Joe Biden was anything but controversial.

pai nai ma · 05-09-2008, 01:45 PM

And therefore a good choice one might suggest.

Some of the really stupid shit Biden has been accused of/done cannot be read without at least holding your nose.

Texpat · 05-09-2008, 01:47 PM

Or that those GOP-leaning posters are more secure and don't have an irresistible urge to lash out against anything and everyone that might notionally be considered democrat.

pai nai ma · 05-09-2008, 01:48 PM

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Or that those GOP-leaning posters are more secure

ermm, no. no way.

Bugs · 05-09-2008, 03:58 PM

First Biden attacks AIPAC:

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"They (AIPAC) think they know the Senate better than I do. They don't know the Senate better than I do," he said.

Biden lashed out at those who would impugn his Israel credentials, saying, "I take a backseat to no one - including AIPAC - when it comes to supporting Israel."
"They don't speak for the entire Jewish community. There are other organizations that are just as strong and consequential," he said. "AIPAC does not speak for the State of Israel."

Then he tries to kiss and make up (well the Obama press folks did - cover up for Biden flapping his gums earlier in the day and no doubt pissing off more than a few of those involved with AIPAC):

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"Barack Obama and Joe Biden have both enjoyed close and effective cooperation with AIPAC over many years, grounded in their respect for its important mission to support Israel''s security and a strong US-Israel relationship," Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said in a statement released later Wednesday.
"That is a mission they share, and they look forward to continuing to work closely with AIPAC on their common goals."

All in the same day.

Biden backs Israel, criticizes AIPAC | Jerusalem Post

raycarey · 05-09-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sabang

I think he was the logical choice for Obama, although some might be disappointed that the choice lacks the 'excitement' factor of picking someone like a Sarah Palin.

if memory serves, someone here castigated obama because picking biden wasn't 'risky' enough.
christ almighty.

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Originally Posted by chinthee

The chances of any VP becoming President are quite remote.

don't you ever get tired of being wrong about US politics?

9 VPs have taken over for a president who died in office or resigned...that's 20%......and in case you've forgotten (or more likely didn't know), mccain is a 72 year old cancer patient.

Bugs · 05-09-2008, 04:09 PM

If the National Enquirer is fair game on the Palin thread, I guess these linkies should be fair game in a Biden thread:

Newsmax.com – Joe Biden Needs an Off Button
RC peaked my interst in Newsmax:

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One of the innumerable TV talking heads made the prescient observation last week that Sen. Joe Biden “doesn’t have an off button.” He doesn’t have a lot of other buttons, either, like an honesty button, a non-partisan button, or a modesty button.

What he does have is a big ego button, a narcissism button, a windbag button, an arrogance button, a phony button, and a huge B.S. button.

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Biden’s widely touted foreign policy experience is a canard, being rather a catalog of what not to do. As chairman of the foreign relations committee, he can raise a lot of dust and fog, but his judgments and pronouncements are generally wrong-headed.

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One reason that Biden was a non-starter in the Democratic primary is the perception that he cannot be trusted at face value. People recall that in a previous presidential run, Biden plagiarized parts of a speech by British Labour Party leader Neal Kinnock. And, in another case, he falsified his educational record.

And another one:
Joe Biden: Consummate political prostitute

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Sen. and Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden's declaration that the nation of Israel ought to "reconcile itself to the nuclearization of Iran" is tantamount to suggesting a woman ought to "lay back and enjoy it" should she become a victim of rape.

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Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was no doubt chosen by Obama for his alleged experience in the area of foreign policy. However, a little research – easy for any of us in this age of accessible information – reveals that the senator's foreign policy has been in question for a long time.

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Biden's statement, which a spokesman has since denied the senator ever uttered, is but a foretaste of the sort of blithering foreign policy to which we can look forward if Obama-Biden triumphs in November. From killing the amendment (H.R. 4444) that would sanction China in the event that they were to sell illicit weapons of mass destruction, to supporting every measure favoring unfettered foreign aid packages, Joe Biden has proven himself to be a consummate political prostitute as well as a force for the United States' geopolitical demoralization.

durianfan · 05-09-2008, 04:19 PM

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Biden's statement, which a spokesman has since denied the senator ever uttered, is but a foretaste of the sort of blithering foreign policy to which we can look forward if Obama-Biden triumphs in November. From killing the amendment (H.R. 4444) that would sanction China in the event that they were to sell illicit weapons of mass destruction, to supporting every measure favoring unfettered foreign aid packages, Joe Biden has proven himself to be a consummate political prostitute as well as a force for the United States' geopolitical demoralization.

Haha! That last bit is a gem, and the type of yellow journalism that we're going to see a lot in the coming weeks before the election. Both Obama and McCain have promised to play nice and run a clean campaign without the smears, however, I really don't see that happening now that Biden has been invited to play.

Bugs · 05-09-2008, 05:08 PM

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Haha! That last bit is a gem, and the type of yellow journalism that we're going to see a lot in the coming weeks before the election. Both Obama and McCain have promised to play nice and run a clean campaign without the smears, however, I really don't see that happening now that Biden has been invited to play.

Generally speaking that is kind of part of the role of the VP candidates - to be the attack dogs. This is suppose to allow the guys at the top of the ticket to appear to be above such things, while the guys at the bottom of the ticket piss all over the other campaigns.

527's have also evolved into the attack arms of most campaigns. Again to allow the party to appear above some of the near slanderous ads that the 527's run.

Accidental Ajarn · 05-09-2008, 05:13 PM

"Yes, he's like a stupid version of Jimmy Carter."

Oh, not good

pai nai ma · 05-09-2008, 05:17 PM

Biden was complimented as a great "knife fighter" shortly after his being chiosen.

Frankly, the Biden/Palin debates couldnt offer anymore contrasts

And for a person like me who cares but ultimately see's this as theatre, it will be interesting. sort of like one of those nature shows where a killer whale nearly beaches it's self to grab its growling four legged dinner and swim away.

I must say, I fucking love it!

attaboy · 06-09-2008, 02:59 AM

The people here are correct. Biden is seen as a loudmouth camera seeking knob. I think he takes the train home to Deleware every night because he is not welcomed in Washington DC.

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Joe Biden has proven himself to be a consummate political prostitute as well as a force for the United States' geopolitical demoralization.

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Originally Posted by Amir Taheri of the New York Post

In 2004, I was astonished to hear Biden doing his own bit of America-bashing in front of an audience at the World Economic Forum in Davos. The US, he claimed, had no moral authority to preach democracy in the Middle East. "We don' have much of a democracy ourselves, " he said mockingly. "Remember our own presidential election; remember Florida!"

Was he paid to entertain the Euros? Whoring himself and dragging his country into his whoring act; it goes beyond shameless and ventures into the realm of abuse. I doubt the USA consented to the participation nor was it paid.

Boon Mee · 06-09-2008, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by aging one

Wonder who of the two could tell ya who is the leader of Chile, or Venezuela. Or what the capital of Kenya is? Sure aint gonna be soccer mom.

And who cares?

Since Pinocet ain't in office any more and Hugo Chavez is an Oil nationalizing asshole...who cares?

btw, it's Hockey Mom...heh

Jet Gorgon · 06-09-2008, 05:24 AM

^ He's a Brit. Doesn't know what hockey is.

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

Wonder how Hillary is feeling about now??

Hopefully, numbed by Valium.

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Originally Posted by pai nai ma

Biden was complimented as a great "knife fighter" shortly after his being chiosen.
Frankly, the Biden/Palin debates couldnt offer anymore contrasts
And for a person like me who cares but ultimately see's this as theatre, it will be interesting. sort of like one of those nature shows where a killer whale nearly beaches it's self to grab its growling four legged dinner and swim away.
I must say, I fucking love it!

Knife fighter? It's attack dog, you git. Biden is a spaniel compared to Palin -- she's a pitbull.
And orcas (there, a new word for you) don't attack or eat people. Get your info right, please.

Biden thinks Palin will be formidable. Yes, she will be a force to reckon with, not the least coz she's not a plagiarizing windbag and she's a quick study.

raycarey · 06-09-2008, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by attaboy

I think he takes the train home to Deleware every night because he is not welcomed in Washington DC.

let's pretend for a moment that this is true, wouldn't that be a good thing that he gets out of DC and rides the train with real americans. when's the last time mccain interacted with real americans on the plane cindy's dad bought?

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Originally Posted by attaboy

it goes beyond shameless and ventures into the realm of abuse.

abuse? whoi would have guessed that you were so delicate and fragile.

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Hopefully, numbed by Valium.

i wonder if cindy hooked her up.

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she's a quick study.

so laughable.
first of all, how do you know this? what is it based on? the fact that she had to go to 5 colleges in 6 years to get an undergraduate degree?
and after all the crap you posted about obama's supposed inexperience, you're now lauding someone who is a 'quick study'.
pathetic.

ChiangMai noon · 06-09-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ He's a Brit. Doesn't know what hockey is.

no, you are wrong again, he's American.

pai nai ma · 06-09-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pai nai ma

whale nearly beaches it's self to grab its growling four legged dinner and swim away.

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

And orcas don't attack or eat people.

Outside Canada, humans are bipeds.

attaboy · 06-09-2008, 09:23 AM

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let's pretend for a moment that this is true, wouldn't that be a good thing that he gets out of DC and rides the train with real americans. when's the last time mccain interacted with real americans on the plane cindy's dad bought?

Riding the Rails with Joe Biden, yeah right, a regulalr guy who spends $222.00 a day to ride Amtrak Acela Express to and from work along with all the other lawyers, lobbyists and politicians

sabang · 06-09-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugs

"AIPAC does not speak for the State of Israel."

The man has gone up in my estimation, strongly. Finally, an American politician with the Balls to speak this frickin obvious truth. Fingers crossed- maybe Biden might actually be the man to get something done with the recalcitrant Israeli's.

Bugs · 06-09-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sabang

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Originally Posted by Bugs

"AIPAC does not speak for the State of Israel."

The man has gone up in my estimation, strongly. Finally, an American politician with the Balls to speak this frickin obvious truth. Fingers crossed- maybe Biden might actually be the man to get something done with the recalcitrant Israeli's.

Would have been refreshing had the Obama camp not come out later in the day to kiss and make up with AIPAC.

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pai nai ma I am in Jail Last Online: 18-12-2008 08:14 PM Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,038	And therefore a good choice one might suggest. Some of the really stupid shit Biden has been accused of/done cannot be read without at least holding your nose.

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pai nai ma I am in Jail Last Online: 18-12-2008 08:14 PM Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,038	Biden was complimented as a great "knife fighter" shortly after his being chiosen. Frankly, the Biden/Palin debates couldnt offer anymore contrasts And for a person like me who cares but ultimately see's this as theatre, it will be interesting. sort of like one of those nature shows where a killer whale nearly beaches it's self to grab its growling four legged dinner and swim away. I must say, I fucking love it!

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