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Bugs · 23-10-2008, 03:24 PM

By bringing in the far right I did not mean to imply they were going to vote for Obama - but I think qutie a few of them would have simply stayed home. Now I don't think there will be many of them skipping this vote - and I think Palin has alot to do with that.

Milkman · 23-10-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugs

By bringing in the far right I did not mean to imply they were going to vote for Obama - but I think qutie a few of them would have simply stayed home. Now I don't think there will be many of them skipping this vote - and I think Palin has alot to do with that.

I agree with what I've read.

Palin alienated a lot of moderate, "fiscal" and "corporate Republicans."

There are a few reasons for the coming McCain loss.

Picking Palin is one of the top reasons, IMO.

attaboy · 24-10-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Republican party spent $150,000 on Palin's wardrobe

You hear it on the campaign trail everywhere, but now a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll appears to confirm it. No longer a net asset to the Republican ticket, Sarah Palin may in fact be weighing John McCain down.

Those voters crucial to the final outcome n the undecideds and independents - don't quite like her, think her selection was cynical and political and cannot imagine her ever being president. And to make matters worse, details emerged yesterday of the Republican Party splurging $150,000 (NZD$253,000) since Mrs Palin became Mr McCain's running-mate to revamp her wardrobe.

Lipstick and Armani on a hockey mum sounds fine, but at that kind of cost? After "troopergate" in Alaska, another mini-scandal attached to Mrs Palin is not what is needed. The Republican Party did not dispute the wardrobe findings of the US website Politico, moreover.

By perusing the campaign's financial disclosures for September, the site found that Mrs Palin's fashion expenditure included almost $50,000 doled out at branches of Saks Fifth Avenue in St Louis and New York, as well as more than $75,000 on clothes at high-end Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, the host city for the Republican Convention. "With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we're spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said a Palin spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt. "It was always the intent that the clothing goes to a charitable purpose after the campaign.

So she must stay within the image the left wishes. She must attend meetings with the President of France dressed in the clothes she purchased in Wasilia, Alaska.

This sounds like more Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals strategy. Define your enemy and then attack the traits you ascribe to them. I got to remember this Alinsky stuff and use it too. I bet Rove has read Alinsky. I know Obama has mentioned Alinsky. I'm sure Clinton has read Alinsky. Alinsky's non-profit organization offered Hillary Clinton a job when she graduated.

Boon Mee · 24-10-2008, 04:45 AM

Could BO walk a mile in Sara's shoes?

I doubt it...

Jet Gorgon · 24-10-2008, 05:06 AM

Anything to nitpick. I'm waiting for the stories that BO would usually only pay a buck for a buzzcut but his barber gives it free for a campaign donation. Another piece of lefty press jabberwocky.

Boon Mee · 24-10-2008, 05:12 AM

Well, if I can get my absentee ballot in on time - thinking of voting Democrat!

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday, CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at
15% isn't.

Makes ya wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn't it?

Ripped from here

attaboy · 24-10-2008, 05:17 AM

Heh, that pic should go with the hick videos.

flash · 24-10-2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, if I can get my absentee ballot in on time - thinking of voting Democrat!

you have been bitching about the election for months and you haven't even sorted out your absentee vote?
Jet would give a lung for a change to vote.

jim1176 · 24-10-2008, 06:34 AM

Sarah Palin: Not fit to serve

panama hat · 24-10-2008, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flash

Jet would give a lung for a change to vote.

We can hope she gives both . . .

jim1176 · 24-10-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Quote:

But Wait Until You See the Solid Gold Parka
October 21, 2008

Politico's Jeanne Cummings is reporting that the Republican National Committee "appears to have spent more than $150,000 to clothe and accessorize vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin and her family since her surprise pick by John McCain in late August.

According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.

The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September."

The McCain-Palin campaign didn't comment, but if campaign officials change their minds we shall be happy to update.

-- jpt

I'm confused.

Is it a crime for her to look good?

Yep you are confused, a confused twat

AntRobertson · 24-10-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attaboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Republican party spent $150,000 on Palin's wardrobe

You hear it on the campaign trail everywhere, but now a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll appears to confirm it. No longer a net asset to the Republican ticket, Sarah Palin may in fact be weighing John McCain down.

Those voters crucial to the final outcome n the undecideds and independents - don't quite like her, think her selection was cynical and political and cannot imagine her ever being president. And to make matters worse, details emerged yesterday of the Republican Party splurging $150,000 (NZD$253,000) since Mrs Palin became Mr McCain's running-mate to revamp her wardrobe.

Lipstick and Armani on a hockey mum sounds fine, but at that kind of cost? After "troopergate" in Alaska, another mini-scandal attached to Mrs Palin is not what is needed. The Republican Party did not dispute the wardrobe findings of the US website Politico, moreover.

By perusing the campaign's financial disclosures for September, the site found that Mrs Palin's fashion expenditure included almost $50,000 doled out at branches of Saks Fifth Avenue in St Louis and New York, as well as more than $75,000 on clothes at high-end Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, the host city for the Republican Convention. "With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it's remarkable that we're spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said a Palin spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt. "It was always the intent that the clothing goes to a charitable purpose after the campaign.

So she must stay within the image the left wishes. She must attend meetings with the President of France dressed in the clothes she purchased in Wasilia, Alaska.

This sounds like more Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals strategy. Define your enemy and then attack the traits you ascribe to them. I got to remember this Alinsky stuff and use it too. I bet Rove has read Alinsky. I know Obama has mentioned Alinsky. I'm sure Clinton has read Alinsky. Alinsky's non-profit organization offered Hillary Clinton a job when she graduated.

attaboy · 24-10-2008, 08:11 AM

^ I think that's what they call it, Ant.

Quote:

Define your enemy and then attack the traits you ascribe to them.

AntRobertson · 24-10-2008, 08:18 AM

Good, now that you've learnt what it is perhaps you can refrain from constantly employing such a transparent logical fallacy.

Jet Gorgon · 24-10-2008, 09:40 AM

^ errm, think you missed on that one, Ant.
And don't worry, bad boys, I have two sets of lungs.

attaboy · 24-10-2008, 09:47 AM

I learned it from the left.

AntRobertson · 24-10-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ errm, think you missed on that one, Ant.

Not at all. To hear atta tell it Saul Alinsky is required - if not actually compulsory - reading for all Democrats and a noted Democrat strategist (although explaining quite where and how this is the case seems to be unimportant).

Having defined Alinsky thusly atta is then ascribing his arguments to others in general - including, ironically enough, the use of the strawman logical fallacy - and judging them on it. A double-strawman if you will.

sabang · 24-10-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Saul Alinsky

A very dynamic sounding name, but to be honest i'd never even heard of this guy until the name was mentioned here. Why has this obscure person suddenly become prominent?

AntRobertson · 24-10-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sabang

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Saul Alinsky

A very dynamic sounding name, but to be honest i'd never even heard of this guy until the name was mentioned here. Why has this obscure person suddenly become prominent?

Saul Alinsky - some credit him with giving rise to the concept of 'community organiser'.

Atta's trying mightly to portray him as a Democrat political strategist of note (in the absence of, well, any evidence at all really) and interprets his works as being "purposely instigative of chaos and misery" which is then something he has ascribed to Democrats/Liberals/The Left in general. Basically an attempt at the Obama-Ayers guilt-by-association gig writ large.

Milkman · 24-10-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabang

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Saul Alinsky

A very dynamic sounding name, but to be honest i'd never even heard of this guy until the name was mentioned here. Why has this obscure person suddenly become prominent?

Saul Alinsky was an activist in the 1960s and earlier. He's been dead for quite some time.

Democrats today do not know who he is.

Hillary Clinton wrote her 90 page BA thesis on him and his beliefs and techniques.

Alinsky was from a different era.

Why is he discussed now, so many decades later?

23-10-2008, 03:24 PM	#1241 (permalink)
Bugs Elite Member Last Online: 09-05-2009 08:11 PM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: At home Posts: 1,311	By bringing in the far right I did not mean to imply they were going to vote for Obama - but I think qutie a few of them would have simply stayed home. Now I don't think there will be many of them skipping this vote - and I think Palin has alot to do with that. __________________ "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion" - Steven Weinberg

24-10-2008, 05:12 AM	#1246 (permalink)
Boon Mee Progressives = Clueless Last Online: Yesterday 05:58 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 13,715	Well, if I can get my absentee ballot in on time - thinking of voting Democrat! I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would. I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it. I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people. I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday, CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius. I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive. I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit. I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters. I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with. I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse. I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't. Makes ya wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn't it? Ripped from here __________________ ผมเป็นคนบ้านนอก

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Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Yesterday 03:59 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,315	Anything to nitpick. I'm waiting for the stories that BO would usually only pay a buck for a buzzcut but his barber gives it free for a campaign donation. Another piece of lefty press jabberwocky.

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attaboy Elite Member Last Online: 13-03-2010 06:38 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,142	Heh, that pic should go with the hick videos.

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Jet Gorgon Take No Prisoners Barbie Last Online: Yesterday 03:59 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 13,315	^ errm, think you missed on that one, Ant. And don't worry, bad boys, I have two sets of lungs.

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