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Old 31-08-2008, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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But not an American Citizen, therefore you are just a long-distance spectator and your opinion will have zilch impact on the election. It is the AMERICAN Presidental election, and what left-learning kiwis think is of little importance.

But then again, my opinion of NZ politics is not important either, so I don't waste my time endlessly discussing it. It is up to you Kiwis to decide your own government, Americans have the same right.
I wasn't talking about the election, AA. I was responding to a post of carnwadrick's.
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"A. Citizen"

But not an American Citizen, therefore you are just a long-distance spectator and your opinion will have zilch impact on the election. It is the AMERICAN Presidental election, and what left-learning kiwis think is of little importance.

But then again, my opinion of NZ politics is not important either, so I don't waste my time endlessly discussing it. It is up to you Kiwis to decide your own government, Americans have the same right.
I don't even know who the Pm is in New zealand, is the top office PM or president there? nevermind, don't care to know..

Curious though where is Old zealand?
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Old 31-08-2008, 03:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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^^Despite your prolific use of the sarchasm smilie it's becoming pretty clear you don't actually understand the concept, DF.

So tell yourself my post was pointless after having grabbed the wrong-end of the stick and made yourself look a bit silly if that helps you feel better.

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I don't even know who the Pm is in New zealand, is the top office PM or president there? nevermind, don't care to know..
No, of course you don't/wouldn't.
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I don't even know who the Pm is in New zealand, is the top office PM or president there? nevermind, don't care to know.. No, of course you don't/wouldn't.
not on my list of priorities in life it effects me not..

The rest of your post is typical Ant dribble when your owned...
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Old 31-08-2008, 03:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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where is Old zealand
In The Netherlands
sorry Denmark
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Old 31-08-2008, 03:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
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where is Old zealand
In The Netherlands
sorry Denmark
thank you!! live and learn.. green on the way..
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Let's just recap shall we...

1. DF comes in and totally misinterprets a post I made to someone else;
2. DF has this pointed out to him;
3. DF goes on the offensive, probably embarrassed, and claims the post was pointless anyway;
4. DF proudly displays his ignorance;
5. DF unilaterally proclaims himself the 'winner';
5a. Rinse & Repeat.

Best you quit while you're behind.
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Old 31-08-2008, 03:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Erm, this thread is about Gov. Palin. Quite a bit of deleting will have to happen if u lot don't get back on topic.
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Boy's, please start another thread if you wish to joust.
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What the Alaska media is saying about Sarah Palin

While the media, pundits, insiders and know-it-alls continue to blab endlessly about the pros and cons of new McCain running mate Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, there is a fair amount of blabbering going on up in Palin’s home state as well.

Surprised, shocked and stunned seem to be words thrown about most often in describing first reactions to hearing the news. In fact, Alaska’s Attorney General compared it to landing on the moon. Not Palin landing on the moon. Although if it polled well - and chances are the McCain team has already polled it - she’d be giving her speech next week from orbit.

Anchorage daily News- McCain’s choice of Palin was somewhat surprising because she most definitely is not a standard-issue Republican. She worked with liberal Democrats in the Legislature to pass a multi-billion-dollar tax increase on Alaska’s oil industry. She went back to Democrats again to win approval of her natural gas pipeline deal, which bypasses Alaska’s major oil companies in favor of a Canadian company.
In fact, Palin is almost totally alienated from the Republican Party establishment here. She tried and failed to get rid of ethically compromised party Chair Randy Ruedrich; they’re not on speaking terms. In the August primary, Palin urged fellow Republicans to desert long-time Congressman Don Young in favor of her inexperienced and uninspiring lieutenant governor, Sean Parnell.

Fairbanks Daily News-Miner

Most people would acknowledge that, regardless of her charm and good intentions, Palin is not ready for the top job. McCain seems to have put his political interests ahead of the nation’s when he created the possibility that she might fill it.
It’s clear that McCain picked Palin for reasons of image, not substance. She’s a woman. She has fought corruption. She has fought the oil companies. She’s married to a union member. These are portrayals for campaign speeches; they are not policy positions.

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In a few short years, Sarah Palin moved from small-town mayor with a taste for mooseburgers to the governor’s office and now - making history - to John McCain’s side as the first female running mate on a Republican presidential ticket.
She has more experience catching fish than dealing with foreign policy or national affairs. Talk about a rocketing ascent.

Ketchikan Daily News
Selecting Palin is a maverick move for McCain who isn’t known for lockstep marching with his own party. But Palin herself doesn’t march to the drum of anyone but Palin. She is a servant to what she believes in.
She believes in God and family and heralds her simple roots in Alaska. Raised in small towns by a teacher and a school secretary, she married young and had five children, the latest of whom was born in the spring with Down syndrome. Religious conservatives will welcome her anti-abortion stand.

Kodiak Daily Mirror
Like so many Alaskans, I heard the news about Palin first thing in the morning, and wondered what crazy world I had woken up to. I also finally realized Lehrer wasn’t joking.
McCain pulled a stunt today, the kind I thought American politics had gotten past.
To me it looks like McCain, a politician I have long admired, chose Palin just to have a woman on the ticket.

Full article- What the Alaska media is saying about Sarah Palin | csmonitor.com

it seems some of the most strident criticism is from her Home state.
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But not an American Citizen, therefore you are just a long-distance spectator and your opinion will have zilch impact on the election.
now, now.
jet gorgon has as much right to post as anyone else.
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Old 31-08-2008, 04:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Seems at least some donors like the Palin pick:

McCain Gets $7 Million Bounce from Palin Pick | The Trail | washingtonpost.com

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Sen. John McCain has taken in $7 million in contributions since announcing Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, a top campaign aide said today.

The money bounce may owe to Palin's appeal with conservative donors, many of whom said privately they had planned on sitting out the campaign this year. The money comes in just under the wire -- after McCain accepts the GOP nomination Thursday, he will accept public funds and no longer be permitted to raise private money for the campaign.
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mccain, who repeatedly pronounces that he 'puts country first', has exposed himself as just another cynical, calculating politician who will do anything to win..even if it means putting the country at risk.

if he were indeed putting 'country first' there is no way he would have chosen her.

for all his faults, at least romney knows something about business.
for all his faults, at least ridge knows something about securing the borders.
for all his faults, at least lieberman know something about how the federal govt. works, and can work across the aisle.

palin offers none of these things.

instead of choosing someone who could actually help the country in this difficult period, the GOP is about to nominate the mccain/gimmick ticket at their convention.

she has no foreign policy experience, and is even less knowledgeable on the economy than he is.

country first? hardly.
it's mccain's political ambition which is first....make no mistake.
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Old 31-08-2008, 05:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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^ agreed. but the dirt is fun to see.
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Dem dirt is an outrageous, outlandish smear that borders on libel/slander and is a black mark on US politics.

GOP dirt is fun.

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Dem dirt is an outrageous, outlandish smear that borders on libel/slander and is a black mark on US politics.
GOP dirt is fun.
Twat.
do try and control your anger.

pssst....don't forget texpat, you're an "independent"
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The biggest positives I see on the Palin side of things is that she is not a Washington insider, she has not only shown that she is not afraid to fight the entrenched on issues, but that she is also willing to reach across party lines to get it done. IMHO she is closer to middle class America than any of the other three.

Ex-beauty pageant participant, ex-basketball player, and a working mom. – Hello, middle America.

For me a real added bonus is that she is not only someone who superficially supports Americans individual right to keep and bear arms, but she seems to deeply believe in that right. Granted this isn't a big issue for some. But for me it is.

Also does anyone think Quayle was a better potential VP than Bentsen was in ’88? And we all know how that one turned out.

It will be good to see Palin speak at the convention. Interestingly enough she was already listed to speak on the second night of the convention (theme for the night is Reform), but the VP candidate is supposed to speak on the third night. I doubt they’ll have her speak twice.
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Dem dirt is an outrageous, outlandish smear that borders on libel/slander and is a black mark on US politics.
GOP dirt is fun.
Twat.
do try and control your anger.

pssst....don't forget texpat, you're an "independent"

You noticed how those two go together. Identifying a disconnect among party "reporting" and claiming to have no party affiliation.

Very good Ray. Please stop licking your desk and come over and collect your gold star.
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There is sort of a political Cinderella aspect that will be interesting to watch.

Lot a money riding on this. The pressure on her will be enormous.

My geuss is her inexperience will be clear even to us inexperienced folk.
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