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britmaveric · 09-09-2008, 09:26 PM

No worries Ray - you can blabber on for another 4yrs when McCain and Palin take office.

DrivingForce · 09-09-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^Are we desperate or what!

increasingly so....it seems......

DrivingForce · 10-09-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Lance Armstrong (though admittedly not 72, but age isn't much of a factor in such cases) had metastatic testicular cancer and it wasn't a death sentence he still won 7 Tour de France titles following his treatment and trained all the way through riding 20 miles per day.

I know this is off topic but I couldn't pass up the incredible irony of my mentioning him and then it comes out that he maybe seeking his 8th next year..

attaboy · 10-09-2008, 03:48 AM

False Internet claims and rumors fly about McCain's running mate.

By Brooks Jackson, Jess Henig, Emi Kolawole, Joe Miller and Lori Robertson | factcheck.org

Summary
We've been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading.

Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

A few of these claims were included in a chain e-mail by a woman named Anne Kilkenny. We'll be looking into other charges in that e-mail for a future story. For more explanation of the bullet points above, please read the Analysis.

Factcheck.org: Sliming Palin | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com

Boon Mee · 10-09-2008, 04:30 AM

The Importance Of Age And Experience

Leadership: Are age and experience important in judging presidential candidates? If history is any guide, the answer is "absolutely."

"America's most productive and successful presidents since the end of World War II were Harry Truman, a Democrat, and Ronald Reagan, a Republican. Truman took office one month from his 62nd birthday and left office a few months before his 70th. Reagan became president 17 days before his 70th birthday and left office 17 days before his 78th."

IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- The Importance Of Age And Experience

Qualifications as a South Side rabble-rouser (community organizer) ain't what gets it!

Jet Gorgon · 10-09-2008, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aging one

So I have to accept their are conservative voters. Okay I do. But how the hell can you say that you accept Sarah Palin...
Let a female retard run the country. We have had a male one for the last 8 years and look what happened.

OK, want a black retard with no experience run it for you?

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Originally Posted by Bugs

Not sure if you have spent any time out in the heartland of America...But there are millions of Americans that think just the way you feel is over the top - that they way they think people should live their lives is gods will, and as such that is why they choose to live their lives the way they do.

Sure do. My families both come from Minnesota and it's also Bible Belt (and home to Bob Dylan). Brought the same sentiments to Canada.

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

No worries Ray - you can blabber on for another 4yrs when McCain and Palin take office.

Probably 12. Four for John and another eight for Palin. Carnwadrick already said so, too...poor ray.

sabang · 10-09-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

OK, want a black retard with no experience run it for you?

A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pathetic, Jet.

Jet Gorgon · 10-09-2008, 07:46 AM

^ Just drawing up the analogies for retards there, SB.
So, besides community organiser, has Obama administrated? Don't answer, we already know.

Butterfly · 10-09-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

OK, want a black retard with no experience run it for you?

still trolling as a black woman Jet ? another of your lies exposed ? or just plain racism ?

can you look yourself in the mirror in the morning without screaming ?

Jet Gorgon · 10-09-2008, 07:51 AM

^ Hey! Look what Aging One wrote about retards! I'm just making things fair and balanced.

(I love you, too.) Oh, oops, Momo musta done a search for "retard" coz she's reading this thread. 555555

Mr Earl · 10-09-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Lance Armstrong (though admittedly not 72, but age isn't much of a factor in such cases) had metastatic testicular cancer and it wasn't a death sentence he still won 7 Tour de France titles following his treatment and trained all the way through riding 20 miles per day.

I know this is off topic but I couldn't pass up the incredible irony of my mentioning him and then it comes out that he maybe seeking his 8th next year..

All you need to do is have one look at McCain's mom to know he comes from healthy stock.

Jet Gorgon · 10-09-2008, 08:02 AM

^ Beg to differ, Mr Earl -- his dad and grandpap died in their 60s or 70s....ray will call the libbie source police to confirm.

aging one · 10-09-2008, 09:49 AM

McCain may be even in the popular vote but his is getting killed in electoral votes. Losing ground on a daily basis.

Butterfly · 10-09-2008, 09:55 AM

the McCain/Paladine couple is creepy beyond belief,

You know they are going to fuck up the system just because they can,

Accidental Ajarn · 10-09-2008, 12:40 PM

"McCain may be even in the popular vote but his is getting killed in electoral votes. Losing ground on a daily basis."

Polls show at the moment Obama/Biden 273 McCain/Palin 265

RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map

Very close, one swing state changes, even one as small as New Mexico, it could change everything.

Obama's lead in many states is shrinking. Can he recover?

HIs strategy of running against Bush seemed to work well in the primaries and of course the true believers buy into it. But, it seems more people are taking a second look at McCain and like what they see.

Race is tight, the big mo seems to be with the GOP, but of course that can change quickly as well.

aging one · 10-09-2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Reagan became president 17 days before his 70th birthday and left office 17 days before his 78th."

suffering from full blown alzheimers.

Accidental Ajarn · 10-09-2008, 01:09 PM

"suffering from full blown alzheimers."

Sorry to hear that AO, but from reading your posts it does not come as much of a surprise

.

aging one · 10-09-2008, 01:12 PM

better up the meds.

Bugs · 10-09-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aging one

McCain may be even in the popular vote but his is getting killed in electoral votes. Losing ground on a daily basis.

I guess that depends on which polls you take a look at.

I would agree that McCain is behind in pretty much every electoral map related poll/map/chart. But not that he is losing ground on a daily basis, or that he is getting killed when it comes to the electoral map.

Here on Rasmussen - which has the race still pretty close in their national poll (46%/ 48% each), they have Obama ahead in the electoral chart but by only 10 or 17 if leaners are included.
Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

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John McCain and Barack Obama now each attract 46% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, it’s McCain 48% and Obama 48%.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

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With the Montana shift, the latest numbers from the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator show Obama leading in states with 193 Electoral College votes and McCain ahead in states with 186 Electoral College votes. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 264, McCain 247.

And pretty much ever recent move/change on the Rasmussen electoral chart has been in favor of McCain (by either moving into/further into the GOP camp or moving out of/further out of the Obama camp):

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

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9/08 - MT moves from leans GOP to likely GOP - move towards McCain
8/22 - TN moves from likely GOP to sage GOP - move towards McCain
8/22 - ME moves from safe Dem to likely DEM - move away from Obama
8/22 - LA moves from likely GOP to safe GOP - move towards McCain
8/22 - CT moves from safe Dem to likely Dem - move away from Obama
8/22 - SD moves from leans GOP to likely GOP - move towards McCain
8/22 - OR moves from likely Dem to leans Dem - move away from Obama
8/22 - CO moves from leans Dem to toss-up - move away from Obama
8/22 - WI moves from likely Dem to leans Dem - move away from Obama
8/22 - NC moves from leans GOP to likely GOP - move towards McCain
8/22 - OH moves from toss-up to leans GOP - move towards McCain

Their most recent polls only support the move towards McCain:
Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.
McCain moves into double digits in Montana:

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John McCain has opened a double digit lead over Barack Obama in Montana.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.
McCain stretches his lead in Ohio from 4% to 7%:

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The latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Ohio, finds John McCain out in front of Barack Obama 51% to 44%

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.
Virginia shifts from in favor of Obama by one point, to a lead of two points for McCain:

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The latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports telephone in the state shows John McCain with 49% of the vote while Barack Obama earns 47%

Accidental Ajarn · 10-09-2008, 01:29 PM

^
Virgina could very well be the Florida of 2008 from what I have seen.

10-09-2008, 03:48 AM	#624 (permalink)
attaboy Elite Member Last Online: 01-11-2009 06:53 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,902	False Internet claims and rumors fly about McCain's running mate. By Brooks Jackson, Jess Henig, Emi Kolawole, Joe Miller and Lori Robertson \| factcheck.org Summary We've been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading. Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years. She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term. She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982. Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a "courtesy" when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state. Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum." A few of these claims were included in a chain e-mail by a woman named Anne Kilkenny. We'll be looking into other charges in that e-mail for a future story. For more explanation of the bullet points above, please read the Analysis. Factcheck.org: Sliming Palin \| Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 \| Newsweek.com __________________ As a kid I always thought my nickname was "attaboy" until I realized they were rooting for the dog: "Attaboy, get 'em! Get 'em!".

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Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 07:30 AM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,913	The Importance Of Age And Experience Leadership: Are age and experience important in judging presidential candidates? If history is any guide, the answer is "absolutely." "America's most productive and successful presidents since the end of World War II were Harry Truman, a Democrat, and Ronald Reagan, a Republican. Truman took office one month from his 62nd birthday and left office a few months before his 70th. Reagan became president 17 days before his 70th birthday and left office 17 days before his 78th." IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- The Importance Of Age And Experience Qualifications as a South Side rabble-rouser (community organizer) ain't what gets it! __________________ ผมเป็นคนบ้านนอก

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09-09-2008, 09:26 PM	#621 (permalink)
britmaveric nid aur yw popeth melyn Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 3,916	No worries Ray - you can blabber on for another 4yrs when McCain and Palin take office.

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Jet Gorgon Jihad Barbie Last Online: Today 04:50 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 12,470	^ Just drawing up the analogies for retards there, SB. So, besides community organiser, has Obama administrated? Don't answer, we already know.

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Jet Gorgon Jihad Barbie Last Online: Today 04:50 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 12,470	^ Hey! Look what Aging One wrote about retards! I'm just making things fair and balanced. (I love you, too.) Oh, oops, Momo musta done a search for "retard" coz she's reading this thread. 555555

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Jet Gorgon Jihad Barbie Last Online: Today 04:50 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 12,470	^ Beg to differ, Mr Earl -- his dad and grandpap died in their 60s or 70s....ray will call the libbie source police to confirm.

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aging one Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 05:51 PM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,343	McCain may be even in the popular vote but his is getting killed in electoral votes. Losing ground on a daily basis.

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Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,897	the McCain/Paladine couple is creepy beyond belief, You know they are going to fuck up the system just because they can,

10-09-2008, 12:40 PM	#635 (permalink)
Accidental Ajarn Ban Phe Last Online: 12-09-2009 05:32 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 615	"McCain may be even in the popular vote but his is getting killed in electoral votes. Losing ground on a daily basis." Polls show at the moment Obama/Biden 273 McCain/Palin 265 RealClearPolitics - Electoral Map Very close, one swing state changes, even one as small as New Mexico, it could change everything. Obama's lead in many states is shrinking. Can he recover? HIs strategy of running against Bush seemed to work well in the primaries and of course the true believers buy into it. But, it seems more people are taking a second look at McCain and like what they see. Race is tight, the big mo seems to be with the GOP, but of course that can change quickly as well.

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Accidental Ajarn Ban Phe Last Online: 12-09-2009 05:32 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 615	"suffering from full blown alzheimers." Sorry to hear that AO, but from reading your posts it does not come as much of a surprise .

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aging one Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 05:51 PM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,343	better up the meds.

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Accidental Ajarn Ban Phe Last Online: 12-09-2009 05:32 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 615	^ Virgina could very well be the Florida of 2008 from what I have seen.

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