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raycarey

yet you've posted about it at least 3 times....why is that brit?

show me something i've posted on this thread that isn't backed up by a credible link.

spiff

Sensible posters do not read newsmax and LarrySinclair.

pai nai ma

it's ass talk if you can't back it up, boon me.

chinthee

That poor little boy, raycarey is trying desperately to garner support. Good luck to you little boy

britmaveric

I post it, to just show you that there is BS out there on the other side. Does any rumor mongering have any credibility no, but you keep spouting that it has relevance. And funny enough you easily dismiss rumors when it attacks dems, but don't do that when its repubs?? I wonder why that is Ray?

If you want to attack someone on the issues fair enough, but anything else is rubbish. However I doubt you can abide by such a thing.

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Milkman

BO said he used cocaine a long time ago. Who cares? Apparently, GWB has, but he's denied it. Well, we cannot prove it, and who cares.

Gay scandal? I think the mainstream media would have been on it, as well as the GOP attack dogs.

Boon Mee

Heh...smell of Fear out there or what?

Rasmussen and Gallup showing Barack Obama moving backwards mostly due to Sarah Barracuda!

Texpat

Barrak Obama is a coke head?

I think I just made my decision. (if confirmed)

Can't fathom another term of drug experimenting douchebag.

Being an agent for change and all -- and an avid non-illegal drug user, I'm convinced. BO has no respect for the law and is in it for himself. Did he and GWB share a dorm room in their Ivy league tower?

Absolute scum.

pai nai ma

Like mrs mccain.

britmaveric

^Prescription Meds??? And last I checked she wasnt running for president...

Boon Mee

Top Seven Lies About Sarah Palin: Thought I'd get 'em listed here before Jason (Rafferty's sidekick) posted them as facts!


This doctored photo of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is one of a number of falsifications and rumors to emerge since she became Sen. John McCain's vice presidential running mate.

1) Palin “Joined a Secessionist Political Party”
The Charge: Unsubstantiated Internet reports insisted Palin was once a member of the Alaska Independence Party, which critics call a secessionist political movement and supporters say is dedicated to seeking greater state control over federal lands across Alaska.


The Facts: Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982. There is no record of her ever being a member of the AIP, or any party but the GOP. Palin’s husband has been a member of the AIP in the past, but since 2002 has been a registered independent.


(See: Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member)


2) Palin Supported a “Nazi Sympathizer”

The Charge: “Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or, as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer,” Obama Florida spokesman Mark Bubriski was quoted as saying in a Miami Herald article.


The Facts: While mayor of Wasilla, Palin wore a Buchanan button during the sometimes presidential candidate’s 1999 visit. But Palin actually supported Steve Forbes in 2000, and served as a co-chair on his Alaska campaign.
In the weeks after the 1999 report of her wearing the Buchanan button, Palin said: “When presidential candidates visit our community, I am always happy to meet them. I’ll even put on their button when handed one as a polite gesture of respect. … The article may have left your readers with the perception that I am endorsing this candidate, as opposed to welcoming his visit to Wasilla.”


(See: Obama campaign advisor quote is from an e-mail sent to the Miami Herald )


3) Palin “Wants Creationism Taught in School”

The Charge: Palin opposes the teaching of evolution, and would mandate the teaching of creationism in the state’s public schools.


The Facts: Palin said during her 2006 gubernatorial campaign that she would not push the state Board of Education to add creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum, or look for creationism advocates when she appointed board members. She has kept this pledge, according to the Associated Press.


Palin has spoken in favor of classroom discussions of creationism, in some cases. “I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum,”Palin told the Anchorage Daily News in a 2006 interview.




(See: ‘Creation science’ enters the race; Palin is only candidate to suggest it should be discussed in schools. By Tom Kizzia, Anchorage Daily News, 27 October 2006)

4) Palin “Was Nearly Recalled” While Mayor

The Charge: Palin was so controversial as mayor of Wasilla that she was almost recalled by a popular voter movement.
The Facts: The Wasilla City Council considered but never took up a recall motion after she fired a longtime police chief, who subsequently brought a lawsuit. A citizen’s group dropped their recall bid, and a judge ruled Palin had the authority to fire the chief.


(See: Foes Back Off Push to Recall Mayor)


5) Palin “Opposes Sex Education”


The Charge: Palin opponents say she supported the end of all sex education in public schools. In light of her daughter’s presumably unplanned teen pregnancy, this has been a particularly well discussed Internet topic.


The Facts: “The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support,” Palin wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates. Palin favors abstinence-based sex education programs.



(See: McCain fought money on teen pregnancy programs, By Sharon Theimer, Associated Press, Sept. 2, 2008)


6) “This Picture Proves Palin is …”

The Charge: A slew of fake, Photoshopped or misdated photographs on the Internet purport to show Palin in any number of embarrassing or compromising poses. One photo claimed to show Palin standing poolside, wearing an American flag-themed bikini, toting a rifle with telescopic sight.


The Facts: The various photos are being discredited and shown to be fake on a number of Web sites. The original of the so-called bikini shot, probably the best-known of the pictures, was shown to have been taken of another woman, with Palin’s head Photoshopped above the body.

(See: Call to Arms)


7) Palin is the grandmother, and not the mother, of Trig Palin

The Charge: The most salacious rumor of all, this theory holds that Palin did not give birth to her son Trig in April, and was actually covering up for her daughter, Bristol.


The Facts: There are a number of photographs showing an apparently pregnant Sarah Palin, as well as a number of published eyewitness accounts of her pregnancy. These include First Lady Laura Bush, who says she spoke with a pregnant Palin at a governor’s conference in February. An assignment manager for KTVA news in Anchorage, Cherie Shirey, has also been quoted saying: “We worked with Governor Palin many times in 2008. Our reporters worked her on location and in the studio and I worked with her myself. She was definitely pregnant. You could see it in her belly and her face. The whole idea that Sarah Palin wasn’t pregnant with Trig is completely, absolutely absurd.”


The McCain campaign, in an apparent effort to counteract the rumors, announced last weekend that Bristol Palin is five months pregnant, which indicated she would have become pregnant before Trig was born.

(See: Palin Rebuts Rumors, Says Daughter Pregnant,
Anchorage TV Station: Palin Was ‘Definitely Pregnant’ With Trig’ )

Top 7 Myths, Lies and Untruths About Sarah Palin - America’s Election HQ

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Bugs

IMHO Palin’s religious convictions will actually end up helping her/ McCain. Like it or not the US is the most religious country in the modern western world. Even those on the far extremes can get elected to national office in the US.

And as for people in positions of power indicating that an action or direction they want to move the country in is the will of god. Sadly enough that is exactly what many that are devout in their religious conviction believe. And generally speaking they are not afraid to say it. Generally speaking this does not prevent them from getting elected either.

Troopergate might turn into something, but I doubt it will have a significant effect on the outcome of the election. It might indeed turn out to be an abuse of power on the part of Palin, and that indeed is concerning. However, if much of what is being reported to date about the man in question is true most people will overlook the abuse of power (even though the should not) based upon viewing Palin's action as those of a protective family member trying to doing everything she could to protect her family. Most will view the protective family member as trumping the abuse of power - especially since they those attempting to protect Palin will play up the her role as a mother in general.

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britmaveric

-Brother in law: taser step son, drunk on duty, illegally killed a moose, and threatened Palin family members. Now the threatening family members is the only thing in dispute at present, the rest is fact. Now would you want someone like this as a police officer?

Mid

how's that working out ....................

Bugs

I don't think Palin by any means locks up the west for McCain - certainly not Washington, Oregon, or Cal. But with both of them (McCain/Palin) being from the west they sure do have a shot a sweeping the rest of the western states:

Palin pick may have torpedoed Dems' strategy - Salt Lake Tribune

Milkman

Abstinence programs fail.

Always have; always will.

Give us - I mean, her daughter - a break.

raycarey

palin continues to hide from the media (it's either day nine or ten without a real interview).....how is she going to stare down putin and chavez, if she can't handle tom brokaw?

the mccain campaign responded to questions about her being MIA with..
not too defensive, eh? i'm thinking that she's not able to handle the policy issues placed before her and they're afraid to put her in front of a camera. let's not forget that it took her 6 years and 5 colleges to finagle an undergraduate degree.

and here are a couple of questions she's ducking...

Political Punch

britmaveric

^easy questions Ray, and no doubt she'll be doing the media as soon as she is ready. I think she is waiting for Oprah.

How many years did BO duck O'Reilly? Prob should have ducked him longer from the interview he gave - BO only can handle softball questions and not hard hitting ones.

raycarey

ok, then answer them.... i'm always up for a laugh.



too much foxnews for you brit. you're now equating obama not sitting down with with an entertainer like o'reilly to palin not taking questions from any reporters?
edit...oh yeah, she had some hard hitting questions from people magazine.
you don't have any idea how many debates he took part in during the primaries, do you?
i didn't think so.

britmaveric

1. What was the most difficult order she has had to give to the Alaskan national guard?

There is no difficult order, as a Gov we activate when we need, normally for state of emergencies.. weather related, fires ect. However watching them being activated (indirectly yank pressie decision) and heading to War is probably the most difficult to watch because inevitablely in War some will not return.

2. Since being the Governor of a state close to Russia is suppose to be some sort of foreign diplomatic experience, I would like to know when was her last negotiation experience with the Russians and what was it over?

Fishing/Water Rights

3. Does she believe that states should be allowed to secede from the union? and why?

No - states have no authority to leave the union.

4. What does she think is the best way to lower teen pregnancy rates? and why?

Education

5. What was the most difficult decision she has made in public office? What made it difficult?

Budget Cuts - inevitably when you make cuts in the best interest of Alaska and its people - some will be affected. However you must do what is best for the majority even though it might be hard for a few.

6. What does she believe is the best way for the USA to become energy independent?

All of the above: more wind, more solar, more battery, more natural gas, more nuclear, more oil, more flex fuel