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Old 06-09-2008, 05:27 PM   #521 (permalink)
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Fair enuff, but there is also the Bush legacy affecting many peoples attitudes to this election.
The underlying messages/slogan which will continue to drive campaign strategies are for the Dems "McCain will be more of the same as you got from Bush", and for the GOP "Obama doesn't have the experience to be President".

Believing either based on the rhetoric without looking hard at their individual policies is risky.
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:13 AM   #522 (permalink)
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^ Nice analogy, Boon. 55555
Oprah wants to interview after she is VP? So, the Dems have already given up?
Sure, there is dirt on everyone, but the lengths that the lefty press are going to (complaining they can't get a tel line into rich Alaska -- sorry all lines are busy) and getting angry about every little thing is hilarious. Floor Potato's link in the other thread shows how far they are going. The latest is that she's racist (oh, OK, so she must hate her huz who is part Inuit).
Face it, nobody gets to a big position without p*ssing someone off. It's part of the job. Santa Claus types don't become leaders.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:21 AM   #523 (permalink)
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Palin married a Chink?

Damn, these Repubs are sinking to new lows every day.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:51 AM   #524 (permalink)
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Here is an informative article on Palin's evangelical views and the base of evangelicals and the different segments of that base. The articles also discusses if Palin can attract enough evangelicals and translate the into votes for the McCain-Palin ticket. It's an article worth a skim or read. Here it is.

Are Evangelicals Really Sold on Palin? - TIME
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:42 AM   #525 (permalink)
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Thanks for the article, MM, but quite frankly, the lefty media is grasping at straws and whispers: Her baby Trig was a coverup as he was her daughter's, banned library books, troopergate, now church crap.
From the Time article:
They don't attend churches where speakers charge that violence against Israelis is divine punishment for the failure of Jews to accept Jesus, as happened at one of Palin's churches two weeks ago (though Palin has now issued a statement saying she does not agree with those views).
Oh for crikes sake. Did any of these lefties report on Rev Wright and his calls on America deserved 9/11, etc? Bladdy smear tactics.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:36 AM   #526 (permalink)
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Oh for crikes sake. Did any of these lefties report on Rev Wright and his calls on America deserved 9/11, etc? Bladdy smear tactics.
Umm . . yes, therefore rendering your posts and general input invalid and hypocritical.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:39 AM   #527 (permalink)
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^ 5555 Oh, Obama's preacher seemed out of line. Let's move on to how wonderful Michelle is.
They go after the GOP for any little thing they see as a potential slur. You on welfare, too, Panama?
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:56 AM   #528 (permalink)
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The loony right is the absolute worst when it comes to slander, innuendo & general trash journalism. It is not a monopoly of theirs however- the loony left engages in it's share of muckraking too. What I find amusing however is the sanctimonious howl from the Right about this sort of stuff- talk about people in glass houses.

Troopergate may have some legs in it, given that Palin has hired two attorneys to represent her.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:59 AM   #529 (permalink)
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The BIL sprayed the stepkid with mace and threatened family members. Seems a good enough reason to get him off the force.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:00 PM   #530 (permalink)
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:01 PM   #531 (permalink)
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^^ attend to your facts, mouthy one.

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:02 PM   #532 (permalink)
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^those are the facts, clueless one!!!
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:11 PM   #533 (permalink)
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^ Oh, maybe I read that in the LA Times.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:09 PM   #534 (permalink)
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^ 5555 Oh, Obama's preacher seemed out of line. Let's move on to how wonderful Michelle is.
They go after the GOP for any little thing they see as a potential slur. You on welfare, too, Panama?

Indeed he was out of line, and it was reported on . . . so, what is your point? Oh, you don;t have one, just shifting focus and changing tack . . . nothing new.

Welfare? In Malaysia as an expat? My, you are a good example of the intelligent right.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:28 PM   #535 (permalink)
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The BIL sprayed the stepkid with mace and threatened family members. Seems a good enough reason to get him off the force.
Well, no. Its a good reason to get him arrested for child abuse I would have thought, but using your office to pressure for his dismisal is, well, abuse of power.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:33 PM   #536 (permalink)
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and it is alleged that she fired the guy who didn't do her bidding and fire the state trooper.

if this is proven to be true, this broad is completely out of control and deserves to be impeached from her position as governor.
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but using your office to pressure for his dismisal is, well, abuse of power.
Yes, quite. There is a certain point here that ties in with Sarah's inflexible Evangelist faith, I think- and it can become dangerous in a political situation, or any other situation involving public trust and power.

These type of people are so convinced that they are 'right'- indeed, that they have the monopoly on what is 'right'- that in practise they can fail to see right from wrong. Another problem is that they are so convinced they are 'right'- indeed it can be no other way because they are the 'true Christians'- that it just plain can not be pointed out to them when they are in fact Wrong.

It is no different from any other form of Zealotry, such as Islamic fanaticism, in this regard.
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"The independents that can go either way, will likely decide this election, not the "leftie bloggers.""

Exactly, however the leftie bloggers are tearing into Sarah and at the same time exposing their true colors with their disdain for small town America. These vicious attacks by the hardcore lefties will most likely have a backlash which will benefit the GOP, McCain and Palin.

Obamma needs small town America to win the election, but the libs' extremism and hatred may drive small town voters back into the hands of the GOP.
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at the same time exposing their true colors with their disdain for small town America
Karl Rove would be proud.

Exactly how is this close knit cabal of Leftie bloggers exposing their disdain for small town Amerka AA?
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Obamma needs small town America to win the election, but the libs' extremism and hatred may drive small town voters back into the hands of the GOP.
What libs? Are the left-wing bloggers representative for the Dems?

I don't think independent voters care much for your left/right polarising and stereotyping. If loonie blogs had such influence, voters would have turned against the GOP months ago.
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