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Begbie · 05-09-2008, 06:12 PM

Has the boyfriend made any comment yet ? Surely he's going to deny that he was going in the backdoor while her husband was at work.

Britney Spears springs to mind.

Bugs · 05-09-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Has the boyfriend made any comment yet ? Surely he's going to deny that he was going in the backdoor while her husband was at work.

Britney Spears springs to mind.

Maybe the husband knows all about it. Heck, maybe they shared?

britmaveric · 05-09-2008, 09:22 PM

Clintons want Obama to lose, so Hillary can run on 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if they are working with McCain behind the scenes through their political operatives.

Boon Mee · 06-09-2008, 04:55 AM

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I think the Palin nod for VP took the wind out of BO's sails.

Suddenly, the GOP represents something new too. A lot of BO's momentum and nearly his entire platform is based on change -- and he had it in spades. His VP choice was a predictable, necessary move to fill in his gaps.

Yeah - the McCain - Palin ticket has a real Western / Libertarian Vibe to it. Aside from the moonbats on either coast, flyover country subscribes to that Vibe...heh

Jet Gorgon · 06-09-2008, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkman

We know someone, or a group of people wrote Palin's speech.

There are always speechwriters. Even for BO.

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Originally Posted by britmaveric

Clintons want Obama to lose, so Hillary can run on 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if they are working with McCain behind the scenes through their political operatives.

Quite likely.

Just talked to three friends in the States, all are bankers and Dems. ??? 5555 All are now choosing to vote for McC.

Milkman · 06-09-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkman

We know someone, or a group of people wrote Palin's speech.

There are always speechwriters. Even for BO.

I know.

This is the problem. Check out Michael Gerson.

raycarey · 06-09-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jet gorgon

Just talked to three friends in the States

let me guess. they're black.

Milkman · 06-09-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by raycarey

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Originally Posted by Milkman

Just talked to three friends in the States

let me guess. they're black.

Ray, I didn't post that "I just talked with 3 friends in the states."

Where did this come from?

raycarey · 06-09-2008, 07:52 AM

must be a problem with the software, i directly quoted jet......she has black friends you know.

fixed it manually.

raycarey · 06-09-2008, 07:56 AM

sarah palin's 'executive experience' as mayor took place in this building....

raycarey · 06-09-2008, 08:15 AM

usually i'm not inclined to post the opinions of others, but it has become quite popular here in issues, so i'll give it a try.

the editorial board of the alaska's biggest newspaper is calling for subpoenas in "trooper-gate"

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Gov. Sarah Palin is taking the wrong approach to Troopergate. She should be practicing the open and transparent, ethical and accountable government she promised when running for governor and boasts about now that she's on the national stage.

Instead, Gov. Palin has begun stonewalling the Legislature's attempt to get the bottom of allegations that she, her family or staff violated ethical or state personnel rules.

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Gov. Palin should honor her pledge to cooperate with the Legislature's investigation, conducted by former state prosecutor Steve Branchflower. She could start by telling aide Frank Bailey he has to talk to the legislative investigator. She should fire him if he doesn't.

Bailey was caught on an audio recording of a phone conversation with a Public Safety Department official, in which Bailey pushed to get Wooten fired.

Bailey was put on paid leave, not fired. A spokeswoman for Palin said that while Bailey is on the state payroll, Palin can direct him to cooperate with the legislative investigation.

So why is Bailey still on the payroll, after he bailed on a scheduled interview with the legislative investigator Wednesday?

The Legislature hasn't given its investigator the power to subpoena, or compel, testimony of witnesses. Subpoenas appeared unnecessary, since it appeared the governor and administration would be cooperating.

That's over. It's time for the subpoenas.

Palin's stall: Opinion | adn.com

Rattanaburi · 06-09-2008, 10:47 AM

Something worth watching...
Sarah Palin Gender Card | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

Accidental Ajarn · 06-09-2008, 03:14 PM

New polls show the gap has closed to a great extent. I think this has a great deal to do with Sarah. The race is on, come on leftie bloggers. keep tearing into Saran just like Karl Rove and the boys planned and watch the dems throw this election away.

Master strategic move by the GOP (whether it is good for the country is another issue) and the lefties are so filled with hate they charge right in tearing apart this woman that is becoming America's darling.

Change? Don't see it, dems suckered into playing the GOP game just like in 2000 and 2004.

Norton · 06-09-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

New polls show the gap has closed to a great extent. I think this has a great deal to do with Sarah. The race is on, come on leftie bloggers.

No one should get too excited over the polls just yet. All in all, now that both parties have had their shot in the lime light, the differences are about the same as they where before the Dem convention. The real campaign is just beginning. All the rest has been foreplay. Polls in the latter half of October will be a much better indicator as to which team has the edge. Any team having more than a 2 or 3% lead the week ahead of the election is likely going to win.

Texpat · 06-09-2008, 04:25 PM

And most voters with any sense, haven't even tuned in until now.

Despite what Milkman spouts about no-info voters still being undecided, the issues haven't even been debated yet. Voters who have made up their minds are either blinded by partisanship or enamored by bullshit.

How can anyone decide before hearing the candidates square off against one another?

Norton · 06-09-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Texpat

Despite what Milkman spouts about no-info voters still being undecided, the issues haven't even been debated yet. Voters who have made up their minds are either blinded by partisanship or enamored by bullshit.

Exactly. This is why the polls since the very beginning have been nearly a dead heat reflecting those who have already made up their minds based on partisan ideals. The hard core on both sides won't even listen to the other side much less vote for them. It is the independent thinkers who will decide the election and they need to hear more re policy and ability of each candidate to install the policies they profess.

sabang · 06-09-2008, 04:46 PM

^^ Fair enuff, but there is also the Bush legacy affecting many peoples attitudes to this election.

Texpat · 06-09-2008, 05:02 PM

I don't deny there are many that will vote on pure emotion. They're neither intelligent nor representative. Even Palin's son who is in the Army is registered as an independent.

Not everybody has the blinders on.

Milkman · 06-09-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

New polls show the gap has closed to a great extent. I think this has a great deal to do with Sarah. The race is on, come on leftie bloggers.

I am not sure what you mean, AA.

The independents that can go either way, will likely decide this election, not the "leftie bloggers."

Milkman · 06-09-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Texpat

And most voters with any sense, haven't even tuned in until now.

Despite what Milkman spouts about no-info voters still being undecided, the issues haven't even been debated yet.

I use the term "low-info" voter not "no-info."

Nonetheless, the real issues have not been debated on, and they will not be debated on, because nothing can be done about the most pressing issues.

(e.g. David F. Walker's points.)

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Voters who have made up their minds are either blinded by partisanship or enamored by bullshit.

Tex is one of my favorite posters in Issues. Serious. He's got good insight.

And yes, I am not 100% in favor of any candidate. As I've said I like Obama - just a little more than McCain. But, I really don't like either.

I'll be voting Libertarian (Barr) unless the race is very, very, tight in my state of Washington - which it could be.

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Begbie Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 05:29 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 7,300	Has the boyfriend made any comment yet ? Surely he's going to deny that he was going in the backdoor while her husband was at work. Britney Spears springs to mind.

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britmaveric nid aur yw popeth melyn Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pattaya Posts: 3,921	Clintons want Obama to lose, so Hillary can run on 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if they are working with McCain behind the scenes through their political operatives.

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Accidental Ajarn Ban Phe Last Online: 12-09-2009 05:32 PM Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 615	New polls show the gap has closed to a great extent. I think this has a great deal to do with Sarah. The race is on, come on leftie bloggers. keep tearing into Saran just like Karl Rove and the boys planned and watch the dems throw this election away. Master strategic move by the GOP (whether it is good for the country is another issue) and the lefties are so filled with hate they charge right in tearing apart this woman that is becoming America's darling. Change? Don't see it, dems suckered into playing the GOP game just like in 2000 and 2004.

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Texpat ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: 27-10-2009 11:55 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 12,491	And most voters with any sense, haven't even tuned in until now. Despite what Milkman spouts about no-info voters still being undecided, the *issues* haven't even been debated yet. Voters who have made up their minds are either blinded by partisanship or enamored by bullshit. How can anyone decide before hearing the candidates square off against one another?

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sabang Watching the Wheels Last Online: Today 01:22 AM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: where the streets have no name Posts: 11,474	^^ Fair enuff, but there is also the Bush legacy affecting many peoples attitudes to this election.

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Texpat ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: 27-10-2009 11:55 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 12,491	I don't deny there are many that will vote on pure emotion. They're neither intelligent nor representative. Even Palin's son who is in the Army is registered as an independent. Not everybody has the blinders on.

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